Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[FrantikRam]

Ok, that one interception.

Goff wasn't late on cooks deep earlier in the game? If he throws that ball .25 seconds sooner, rams probably win.

Goff 2 Cooks 1

Listen.

I love Goff. I really do.

But this forum blows my mind.

Like Stafford isn't way frikken better in every possible way.

Case in point:

View: https://twitter.com/QBsMVP/status/1355566870427009032?s=19

It's a case of people not realizing how good Goff had it. The OL and McVay have both been hammered by mostly the same posters.

When someone has stepped in to logically defend the OL, the response was "that's because we rolled out so much" - so it goes from:

McVays fault because the OL isn't good enough

To (upon someone pointing out the last the OL was quite good by almost any statistic):

Well the OL was only good enough because of McVays play calling

Good stuff

 

[matt30]

Stop. C'mon. The Lions surrendered 38 sacks and had a worse run game than we did. I could dig into the more advanced stats but most of our members seem to belittle them so I won't waste my time. I'd be surprised if Detroit's OL did anything better than ours last year.

You can believe what you want. But I've actually watch those Lions games. Stafford takes sacks because he holds onto the ball and he's not very fast. The Lions have a big play oriented offense (at least they did under Bevell).

 

[Ramit]

It's a case of people not realizing how good Goff had it. The OL and McVay have both been hammered by mostly the same posters.

When someone has stepped in to logically defend the OL, the response was "that's because we rolled out so much" - so it goes from:

McVays fault because the OL isn't good enough

To (upon someone pointing out the last the OL was quite good by almost any statistic):

Well the OL was only good enough because of McVays play calling

Good stuff

Is it not possible for both realities to be true concurrently?

 

[FrantikRam]

One of the craziest things about so many people trashing McVay is that he's never lost a game when leading at halftime. People are saying that this guy might be on the hot seat? Not anytime soon.

 

[MachS]

I'm coming around and two of my fam have Goff jerseys...

So do I bro. I'm not mad and I have a sick Gurley jersey too. But guess what I love Akers and today at this moment I know he's more talented than Gurley is now with his bum knees. Doesn't take away the respect and love I had for Gurley in his prime. Same with Goff.. I appreciate him getting us to the SB and his epic game in New Orleans. But I'm not going to pretend he's a better QB or has more talent than Stafford because he doesn't.

I'm sure a lot of people around here while Rams fans, don't watch a ton of other NFL games or study other teams closely. Which is why I think Stafford's talent is getting vastly underrated. And again the coaching and talent he played with in Detroit the last few years is no where near what we have. I think him paring up with McVay is going to be explosive firepower.

 

[Allen2McVay]

Actually, he'll miss 9 games with injury behind this line.

Or, if he doesn't, along with his 35 TD's will be 27 interceptions.

Well, first-off, I hope you are wrong about those predictions.

Couple of relevant stats.

Over the past ten seasons, Stafford has started sixteen games in nine of those years.

Over the past seven seasons, Stafford has thrown 71 interceptions for an average of 10-per-year.

I also don't like the trade.

 

[kurtfaulk]

He was very late on that throw too.
Cooks was running by himself forever on that play before Goff found him.

I was talking about the play before the interception.

The one you're talking about happened in the 1st half.

.

 

[matt30]

It's a case of people not realizing how good Goff had it. The OL and McVay have both been hammered by mostly the same posters.

When someone has stepped in to logically defend the OL, the response was "that's because we rolled out so much" - so it goes from:

McVays fault because the OL isn't good enough

To (upon someone pointing out the last the OL was quite good by almost any statistic):

Well the OL was only good enough because of McVays play calling

Good stuff

I think McVays game plan was great for the situation. Possession ball. Short passes. Deception in the run game.

But by late in the season teams were starting to catch up. I think people are expecting too much if you think Stafford is going to be topping the league in deep passes next season.

 

[Spider2YB]

Stafford is going to be a top 5-7 QB in the league with McVay.

View: https://twitter.com/mikegolicjr/status/1355730853473755136?s=21

 

[tomas]

Jourdan Rodrigue


@JourdanRodrigue
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My understanding is that the Rams could very well look into the possibility of an extension for Stafford in the immediate, because adding an extra year to his current two-year, $43 million will make the contract a little more team-friendly in the short term as they carry weight.

 

[Gandalf]

Whelp, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

So be it.


I hope that you feel better about it soon Jrry32.

Green Bay controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. They ate up most of the first half on their first two possessions. Didn't really matter who the QB was, we didn't have the ball. The only times we didn't score was because we turned it over on downs with penalties or sacks. We couldn't stop their pass rush. I saw Ram linemen standing still watching Packers run right by them.

 

[jrry32]

The defense allowed an average of 19.3 ppg in the 2018 playoffs....

We were just talking about the regular season. But thanks for moving the goal posts.

 

[FrantikRam]

You can believe what you want. But I've actually watch those Lions games. Stafford takes sacks because he holds onto the ball and he's not very fast. The Lions have a big play oriented offense (at least they did under Bevell).

Back to the old eye test.

But luckily we have stats that tell us Stafford had less time to throw and faced pressure at a higher percentage than Goff did.

 

[Merlin]

Ok, that one interception.

Goff wasn't late on cooks deep earlier in the game? If he throws that ball .25 seconds sooner, rams probably win.

Goff 2 Cooks 1

Listen.

I love Goff. I really do.

But this forum blows my mind.

Like Stafford isn't way frikken better in every possible way.

Case in point:

View: https://twitter.com/QBsMVP/status/1355566870427009032?s=19

Now they gotta go get a Center, an explosive passing game weapon, and ensure that defense doesn't drop. Let's get it.

 

[fearsomefour]

I was talking about the play before the interception.

The one you're talking about happened in the 1st half.

.

I never recovered from the missed TD to cooks I was talking about.
Game was lost at that moment
Really, really bad game.

 

[TXRams86]

I think McVays game plan was great for the situation. Possession ball. Short passes. Deception in the run game.

But by late in the season teams were starting to catch up. I think people are expecting too much if you think Stafford is going to be topping the league in deep passes next season.

I don’t think people are anticipating Stafford will top the league in deep passes next season. But I think saying we’ll see more vertical shots down the field next season would be a safe bet.

 

[FrantikRam]

I think McVays game plan was great for the situation. Possession ball. Short passes. Deception in the run game.

But by late in the season teams were starting to catch up. I think people are expecting too much if you think Stafford is going to be topping the league in deep passes next season.

I haven't seen anyone say he will lead the league in deep passes. Just some people that think it's an upgrade and are excited

 

[jrry32]

By that logic we should trade for JJ Watt or spend a high pick on a backup for Donald in case he gets injured again, or spend more money on pass rush in general since not touching Rodgers is why we lost to the Packers

No, my logic is that you don't go all in on the Super Bowl right now because of the uncertainty you face each year. Instead, you keep building this team in a sustainable manner. Use this offseason to upgrade the OL, plan for future losses, and plug a hole or two on defense. Run it back with Goff. If he comes up short next year, you have a first round pick and can go after a QB then. If he delivers, you have a 27 year old QB who has a long career ahead of him.

 

[dieterbrock]

The Rams during our decades of pain had multiple 1st rounders over the years and we still sucked.

And yet still brought us Aaron Donald

 

[jap]

Stanford is 32 years old. We will need to trade away our first round picks in 2025 and beyond to replace him. This is just really fucking stupid.

At age 32 most top NFL QBs are entering their prime years.