Their staff knows Goff very well, let's see if they do a better job of using a scheme that fits him well and surrounding him with what he needs to be successful.
Matt Stafford Traded to Rams
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People with their heart set on this being a bad trade won’t be talked into believing otherwise. This trade was 1. To get out of the Goff contract and 2. For Stafford.
McVay didn’t believe he was going to win a Super Bowl with Goff so the trade was made to get out of his contract first and foremost. The second first round pick and this years third was to get Stafford. That’s not a significant price to pay for a QB of his calibre.
Stafford doesn’t need to win it all for this to be “the right decision.” It was the right decision because we were able to get out from under Goff AND replace him with a better player. But people are going to argue this to death but in the end the head coach and GM made a decision they get paid to make. All these armchair GMs acting like they know better should apply for the real gig with an NFL front office if they’re so damn confident.
Has a team ever gone 7 years without a 1st round pick
absolutely does. They've already proven they can get close but not win with Goff. Expecting the same while paying dearly in draft capital is just a waste of resources
If that’s true, which is a big IF, then he got what he wanted. But if we’re believing that story then the front office must have felt the same if they went through with it. Goff doesn’t make that call on his own. It doesn’t matter now anyway because he’s gone and all we know is that McVay, Snead and Stan all signed off on it.
That’s you’re opinion. My opinion is that this trade was initiated first and foremost as a catalyst to get out of Goff’s contract. Stafford was the second part of that trade but would not have happened if we couldn’t get out of Goff’s contract.
It doesn’t matter if we got close enough, that was in the past and you don’t base future success on the results of the past. They’re not expecting the same if they’re making a change at one of the most important offensive positions.
Edit for clarification: he doesn’t need to win it all in 2 years.
SteezyEndo
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Str8 up traded just like that. They lost that much faith in Goff? Fk’n sad, but we need to roll with our new QB and hopefully win games.
WestCoastRam
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I'm not gonna link the whole article cause it really is worth it to get a sub to the Athletic but this needs to be read (and there's definitely more in the article than just this):
From Jourdan-
https://theathletic.com/2356069/2021/01 ... ade-lions/
But in 2019 and 2020, there was a growing sense, according to people within the organization, that as defenses began to “solve” McVay’s widely acclaimed offensive system and he began to counter-adjust, that Goff was falling behind.
The Rams had the NFL’s No. 1 defense in 2020, but finished 18th in scoring and had the ninth-most inconsistent offense in the league according to the Football Outsiders variance metric. That inconsistency needled at McVay, and the Rams’ inability to put the pieces together on offense was a point of stress throughout the year.
McVay especially became frustrated with Goff’s turnovers — 38 in his last 31 regular-season games, the most in the NFL during that span — and even issued public criticism of Goff for the first time after the Rams lost to San Francisco in Week 12.
“Our quarterback has to take better care of the football,” McVay all but spat.
McVay’s decision to speak critically in public about Goff for the first time wasn’t just a sign of things to come, but also seemed to serve as a message to his locker room, where some frustration rippled during the latter half of the season — the message being that an underperforming player would not be coddled, regardless of that player’s status.
There was also some belief that part of McVay’s frustration stemmed from the fact that the changes he made to the offense this season, which were supposed to ease Goff’s discomfort when facing pressure and help him progress into higher-probability plays, simply did not take. The turnovers persisted, even though Goff totaled a career-low in air-yards per attempt as the offense opted toward those shorter, lower-risk concepts. The Rams also lacked a true “deep threat” receiver who could have stretched the field, but that was by design, because they were moving toward those shorter pass concepts and catch-and-run plays.
From Jourdan-
https://theathletic.com/2356069/2021/01 ... ade-lions/
But in 2019 and 2020, there was a growing sense, according to people within the organization, that as defenses began to “solve” McVay’s widely acclaimed offensive system and he began to counter-adjust, that Goff was falling behind.
The Rams had the NFL’s No. 1 defense in 2020, but finished 18th in scoring and had the ninth-most inconsistent offense in the league according to the Football Outsiders variance metric. That inconsistency needled at McVay, and the Rams’ inability to put the pieces together on offense was a point of stress throughout the year.
McVay especially became frustrated with Goff’s turnovers — 38 in his last 31 regular-season games, the most in the NFL during that span — and even issued public criticism of Goff for the first time after the Rams lost to San Francisco in Week 12.
“Our quarterback has to take better care of the football,” McVay all but spat.
McVay’s decision to speak critically in public about Goff for the first time wasn’t just a sign of things to come, but also seemed to serve as a message to his locker room, where some frustration rippled during the latter half of the season — the message being that an underperforming player would not be coddled, regardless of that player’s status.
There was also some belief that part of McVay’s frustration stemmed from the fact that the changes he made to the offense this season, which were supposed to ease Goff’s discomfort when facing pressure and help him progress into higher-probability plays, simply did not take. The turnovers persisted, even though Goff totaled a career-low in air-yards per attempt as the offense opted toward those shorter, lower-risk concepts. The Rams also lacked a true “deep threat” receiver who could have stretched the field, but that was by design, because they were moving toward those shorter pass concepts and catch-and-run plays.
Well, I've backed away from the ledge finally. I went ahead and thought back to a few moments this season where I really thought Goff just wasn't the guy. Kinda glad we moved on tbh, but damn if it doesn't feel like putting down a favorite dog. I think the reason there is so much pain with this is because in just two seasons since a SB appearance the foundational pieces that we loved and thought would be here for a long time are just..poof...gone.
Now, screw the pain. Stafford is a good to very good QB. Let's not kid ourselves and say that isn't an upgrade RIGHT NOW. I'm not talking about developmental potential or anything like that. Just RIGHT NOW. If there is one thing for certain in the NFL it's that if your SB window is open you can be ready for it to shut fast. Players age, contracts end, and things just happen. Could we really afford to let the 30 year old AD wait for Goff to finally progress instead of regress. 2 years of waiting didn't see that come to fruition, why would one more do the trick? I believe this move was all about this window with Ramsey and AD. Maybe, just maybe this trade is a good thing for the SB window we are watching decay infront of our eyes.
As always I'm all aboard the Rams train and now I'm all aboard the Stafford train...choo a fucking choo..lets gooo!
Now, screw the pain. Stafford is a good to very good QB. Let's not kid ourselves and say that isn't an upgrade RIGHT NOW. I'm not talking about developmental potential or anything like that. Just RIGHT NOW. If there is one thing for certain in the NFL it's that if your SB window is open you can be ready for it to shut fast. Players age, contracts end, and things just happen. Could we really afford to let the 30 year old AD wait for Goff to finally progress instead of regress. 2 years of waiting didn't see that come to fruition, why would one more do the trick? I believe this move was all about this window with Ramsey and AD. Maybe, just maybe this trade is a good thing for the SB window we are watching decay infront of our eyes.
As always I'm all aboard the Rams train and now I'm all aboard the Stafford train...choo a fucking choo..lets gooo!
I started in the middle with not being interested in Stafford as a trade target because I was under the impression McVay wanted a more mobile QB.
Now it seems McVay just wanted a QB who could run his offense the way he wanted. I was ready to move on from Goff and I'm ready now to get behind Stafford 100%
Now it seems McVay just wanted a QB who could run his offense the way he wanted. I was ready to move on from Goff and I'm ready now to get behind Stafford 100%
The Rams will basically save approx 2-Mil against the Cap this season with trading Goff before June 1. Of his 34-Mil cap hit, 22 of it will be dead money and the Rams will save 12. Then the Stafford contract pays him 9.5-mil this season. So, there be about 2.5 Mil in savings compared to Goff playing for the Rams this next season.
Stafford's contract for 2021 is $20 million. People are saying we're going to extend it to lower his cap hit for the year, but as of now, we're losing around $8 million in cap space.
One thing Michael Silver said the other day before this all went down is that there were "philosophical differences" between McVay and Goff ... so it's possible that's true.
I'd argue an "unprofessional" manner going by Snead's snyde comments several days ago.
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