Matt Stafford Traded to Rams

[Barrison]

One can hope we learned our lesson about paying players before there contract is up, but im not holding my breath.

 

[TXRams86]

The compensation the Lions are receiving is absurd. I'm sure it has a lot to do with Goff's contract.

This tweet sums it up perfectly.

 

[Da-Rock]

No we don't stay where we were. Goff didn't play well the past two seasons. So Stafford is an upgrade over the Goff you've seen for the past two seasons. And the fact McVay targeted him means he wants his ability to stretch the field. IMO.

Sorry Merlin, I meant to say where we were money wise, which I know read is actual 7 million more.

Talent wise we are in a big gain! I wasn't on board with Stafford as the guy because I thought McVay wanted a mobile QB and it didn't make sense. I was done with Goff in the superbowl loss.

 

[dieterbrock]

This was all I could find for now...

The Rams will take a $22.2 million dead-cap charge with his trade, saving $12.4 million off of his scheduled $34.6 million cap hit for 2021. The Lions will pay Goff $27.8 million in 2021, and his $25.5 million salary for 2022 will guarantee this March.

So it seems we save 5.5 from there reg salary plus the 12.5 for a total of about 18 million. And obviously there after we are completely free of it. And if they restructure Stafford who asked to ay for mcvay and the rams and said he doesn't care about money it would be further savings.

Saves 12.4 mill until they have to pay Stafford 19.5 mill. So its costing 7-8 mill more to have Stafford than Goff.
Restructure can save cap space, but it means extensive guaranteed money, and dont kid yourself that Stafford doesnt care about money. After what they just gave up to get him, he's in the drivers seat about an extension.
Which has not been the Rams strength, their extensions have been a bit disastrous

 

[IBruce80]

View: https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1355713162142740481

Yep.
Keep looking at it and still can't make sense of it.

 

[Ramit]

The one on the play before that hit cooks on the chest in the endzone but he dropped it.

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So now it comes down to one drop?

Oh, BTW, cooks is gone as well.

Idk man...something is fishy with that scenario.

 

[Stl2La]

View: https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1355720429512622085?s=21

 

[blackbart]

After having more time and seeing more details I’m not as pissed and actually think we have a better opportunity in the next few years to win at least one SB.

I wish Goff luck but haven’t seen him improving and don’t think he will. He has never carried this team, he just isn’t that guy.

We now have Stafford who doesn’t have to see a guy open before throwing it. Has a WAY Bette deep ball. Has better pocket presence. Doesn’t fumble.

I know the money is part of it all but have no insight to how they work it out so don’t spend a lot of time trying to figure it out.

Welcome to the Rams Matt Stafford, let’s get er done!

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I'm curious how McVay deals with a much less structured QB. Stafford will make decisions on the field that are not based on reads but on his gut. He will change the play. That wasn't a problem in Detroit because Bevell wasn't a details guy and Stafford is calling routes at the line.

McVays offense is very much based on misdirection which requires a lot of coordination. Movements, formations, ect. need to look similar out of the same condensed set. Not a lot of room for QB creativity.

McVay wanted Stafford. He felt he is the ideal QB to run his offense

 

[jrry32]

Once again, it's a team sport.

But you know, ignore that.

Like the defense isn't why the Rams made the playoffs this year.

And the offense carried the defense in 2018. You're the one who took the unnecessary crack. I simply fired right back.

 

[Poppinfresh]

Stafford will throw for 4,500 and 35TDs in his first year with McVay. Book it.

Actually, he'll miss 9 games with injury behind this line.

Or, if he doesn't, along with his 35 TD's will be 27 interceptions.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

After having more time and seeing more details I’m not as pissed and actually think we have a better opportunity in the next few years to win at least one SB.

I wish Goff luck but haven’t seen him improving and don’t think he will. He has never carried this team, he just isn’t that guy.

We now have Stafford who doesn’t have to see a guy open before throwing it. Has a WAY Bette deep ball. Has better pocket presence. Doesn’t fumble.

I know the money is part of it all but have no insight to how they work it out so don’t spend a lot of time trying to figure it out.

Welcome to the Rams Matt Stafford, let’s get er done!

Plus he's played in cold wether in Chicago and Green Bay. Cold weather games shouldn't be a big factor

 

[Florida_Ram]

Until the Rams rework Stafford's contract, they have $20 million on the books for Stafford and $22 million on the books for Goff. It's a net loss of about $8 million. Spotrac isn't correct. We have to eat Goff's dead money. Detroit cannot take it in a trade.
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@jrry

Brother this is about winning the SB in the next 2 seasons while Donald and Ramsey are in their prime.

Who cares about Sporttrac and over the cap and all that crap.

If the Rams are holding up the Lombardi in the next 2 seasons, I could give a rats ass about the cap.

 

[FrantikRam]

Stafford is just as capable of shitting the bed. He's older and a little less prone to it because of his experience (unsurprisingly, this is what happens with pocket passers as they age; they are less prone to being fooled by defenses and having bad games), but he's very much capable of doing the same thing. I'll never forget the guy going out a few years ago and throwing 4 picks in Week 1 against the shitty Jets while having a top OL and one of the most gifted groups of WRs in the NFL:

New York Jets at Detroit Lions - September 10th, 2018 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

New York Jets 48 at Detroit Lions 17 on September 10th, 2018 - Full team and player stats and box score

www.pro-football-reference.com

The fact that we have to discuss hypothetical scenarios where injuries that happened IRL didn't happen to convince ourselves that Stafford might have taken this team farther isn't a good thing. If you don't think Stafford could have beaten the Packers under our circumstances this year in the playoffs, he's not the sort of upgrade we needed.

By that logic we should trade for JJ Watt or spend a high pick on a backup for Donald in case he gets injured again, or spend more money on pass rush in general since not touching Rodgers is why we lost to the Packers

 

[Poppinfresh]

Okay. Well, it's not corrected as of yet.

I thought the $15.5M guarantee would be transferable as guaranteed doesn't mean paid. Unless I'm mistaken, it just guarantees future payment.

You can't transfer dead money cap. It's literally never happened.

 

[Ramit]

And the offense carried the defense in 2018. You're the one who took the unnecessary crack. I simply fired right back.

The defense allowed an average of 19.3 ppg in the 2018 playoffs....

 

[ottoman89]

Wonder if the Rams would be interested in looking at Kenny Golladay or Marvin Jones, or if they think Jefferson can take they next step and be a deep threat.

 

[dieterbrock]

One can hope we learned our lesson about paying players before there contract is up, but im not holding my breath.

Well, the Rams need to sign Stafford to a big fat one now or else they're in even worse shape, so...

 

[kurtfaulk]

So now it comes down to one drop?

Oh, BTW, cooks is gone as well.

Idk man...something is fishy with that scenario.

I was replying to your post about that one interception.

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[Ramhusker]

Whew! What a thread!