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Merlin

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I am not blaming Coen, but I am hoping there's a chance McVay brings in a stronger voice that he listens to more and who can take away some of his workload. That's why I think Jay Gruden would be a good choice. Could be assistant HC/offensive coordinator or run game coordinator or whatever...

So I just think Coen was a guy that didn't have enough cred or whatever you want to call it, that McVay still put everything on himself and the offense may have suffered some because of that. Too much tunnel vision in some areas.
Yeah I imagine Jay will be the new OC. And the upgrade there is probably a factor in Coen leaving. Just makes too much sense, Jay getting the reigns to call it when he was the one who gave McVay his first shot. Full circle.
 

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Of course and I am not making excuses for this offense. I am not one of the clowns polarizing the offense vs defense. But are we going to fire McVay? That is not an option.

So what it looks like to me is McVay wants to go in another direction and he gets supported. As he should be.

If you prefer to buy McVay's politically correct spin that's fine by me. Not threatened by differing opinions.
No, you’re being too sensitive again.
 

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Not true at all. He's an extremely sought after coach in SEC and they fired their OC weeks ago. If anything it was a weird move he left there in the 1st place
Considering being OC for the rams will almost guarantee you consideration for a head coaching gig you have to wonder whose decision it was.
 

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I followed the Redskins during the Rams St. L. years, and Gruden was okay but always seemed a little out of his depth. I think he relied a lot on Shanahan for the nuts and bolts. I kind of hope he’s not the OC here, but I can see the value to McVay would be in other areas besides play design, etc.
 

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Of course and I am not making excuses for this offense. I am not one of the clowns polarizing the offense vs defense. But are we going to fire McVay? That is not an option.

So what it looks like to me is McVay wants to go in another direction and he gets supported. As he should be.

If you prefer to buy McVay's politically correct spin that's fine by me. Not threatened by differing opinions.
Good points. From my point of view there are a lot of reasons why they may have parted company and lots of reasons (starting with massive injuries) why the offense cratered this year. We don't know what really happened among the coaches inside the building, who advocated what in terms of offensive strategy, personnel, play calling etc., though McVay was ultimately in charge.

But it can't have been fun to be the Rams' OC this year. There's a lot to be said for job satisfaction and also for not being in the national headlines every week when things are going badly at work. For Coen, being the OC at Kentucky instead might be fun and a move he wanted to make.
 

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So work in LA for a guy nick- named boy genius and the team he coaches just so happens to be Super Bowl champs or go to Lexington KY and coach for a middle of the pack SEC team for a coach with a (66-58) career record. I'm gonna guess the decision wasn't entirely his.
 
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Good points. From my point of view there are a lot of reasons why they may have parted company and lots of reasons (starting with massive injuries) why the offense cratered this year. We don't know what really happened among the coaches inside the building, who advocated what in terms of offensive strategy, personnel, play calling etc., though McVay was ultimately in charge.

But it can't have been fun to be the Rams' OC this year. There's a lot to be said for job satisfaction and also for not being in the national headlines every week when things are going badly at work. For Coen, being the OC at Kentucky instead might be fun and a move he wanted to make.
Yeah he definitely got screwed by the OL. But I think beyond that we were lacking schematically. And I think McVay is not Shanahan, and he knows he's not of that level as an OC. So he needs someone better, or at least I think he has decided that is the case.

Which is probably the right call. Either way I think he knows enough to make a good call on whether someone is good enough outside of those issues they have with personnel. Is it possible Coen just wanted out? Sure. But I doubt it. Rams job is a fucking head coach elevator and when you're good enough you ride it to the top.

It is also possible we'll see more in the days ahead, and one of them might be Morris. Judging from the reactions so far at the mere suggestion that Coen was cast aside I imagine that happening with Morris will be the greatest of entertainment. At this point I expect Shula is gone, as our secondary has been the weakness of the defense, though like with Coen there are personnel issues that muddy the water so who knows. Either way McVay likes shiny objects to include coaches with buzz attached to them so he's gonna be fishing hard in the days ahead at a lot of spots.

TE will see a hire IMO. As will secondary regardless of what they do with Shula. Not sure about RB as McVay loves Brown but we'll see.
 

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Good riddance Coen.
I um, never cared for him. Never cared for him.
He......he insisted upon himself.....
 

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I think Greg Olson is a great coach.
Most every place he has gone QB play has improved.
Don't know if he is an OC kind of guy or if he wants that.....but, I would certainly hang onto him if at all possible.
 

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Considering being OC for the rams will almost guarantee you consideration for a head coaching gig you have to wonder whose decision it was.
Lol, amazing the leaps folks will make, on the other hand one could look at McVay's history to see that every OC that worked for him wanted to leave after one season.
LaFleur took a lateral move, O'Connell was blocked from taking a lateral move and now Coen is headed back to where he built his own success.
Alas, people can create any theory they like.
For me I would find it incredibly hard to believe that McVay would be so incompetent that he would force out a coach that doesnt call plays, runs McVays own system, and had left a job he revered, all because the offense was terrible due to an unprecedented injury run that exposed some poor personnel decisions. And this of course right after the same departing coach has been applauded for his work with Mayfield.
 

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Lol, amazing the leaps folks will make, on the other hand one could look at McVay's history to see that every OC that worked for him wanted to leave after one season.
LaFleur took a lateral move, O'Connell was blocked from taking a lateral move and now Coen is headed back to where he built his own success.
Alas, people can create any theory they like.
For me I would find it incredibly hard to believe that McVay would be so incompetent that he would force out a coach that doesnt call plays, runs McVays own system, and had left a job he revered, all because the offense was terrible due to an unprecedented injury run that exposed some poor personnel decisions. And this of course right after the same departing coach has been applauded for his work with Mayfield.
Making crazy leaps with little evidence is what the Internet is all about.
Yes, many of the offensive coaches have left after a short time and several of them got head coaching spots soon after. They weren’t going to call plays in LA and the offense is McVay’s. So they went places they could do those things despite it being technically a lateral move, and got head coaching jobs. Coen seemed like the latest to take this route, he worked with McVay as an assistant, got the Kentucky job then got the chance to come back to LA in an larger role. Now he’s going back to college. If he wants to be on the nfl head coach track LA makes more sense but who knows what his goals are it’s all speculation. Kentucky liked him when he was there but it was a chance to go to the big time but now he’s going back to college, a lot of guys that have worked for McVay have gone on to better nfl jobs but for reasons we can only speculate on Coen went another way, maybe he decided he’d rather work in college or maybe McVay wanted a change, who knows.
 

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Cohen leaving is a sign that the arrangement wasn't working out. Whether that's on Sean's end or Liam's end, I have no idea. If it was working, Liam would be coming back next year OR getting a promotion of some kind. He's not.
 

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Not upset about this. We'll be fine. McVay has always been the guy pulling the strings on the offense. Up-and-comers know they get a career boost from working with him.