How Do You Like Dan Campbell Now?

[Pupped]

Just so you know, I do agree that there were other plays like Reynolds drops and Gibbs fumble that also played crucial roles. Unfortunately, that mixed in with Campbell's dumbass decisions cost the Lions a trip to the Super Bowl

Sure.

I just think players making plays and not making plays was the biggest difference and, to me, it’s not close.

At best, kicking FG gets you 6.

No fumble, catching the 4th down pass, and Jameson catching the TD would’ve added 15, if my math is right.

Oh… and downing it at the 1.

 

[Selassie I]

It has to do with how perception is molded by success and failure.

Reynolds makes the catch & they go on to score a TD?? Crickets.

Again. You're off on a tangent somehow. I've now told you 3 separate times that what you're reeling off has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. There's no crickets... just you repeating something that has nothing to do with my post that you quoted.

Maybe I should type in all caps?

 

[Pupped]

Again. You're off on a tangent somehow. I've now told you 3 separate times that what you're reeling off has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. There's no crickets... just you repeating something that has nothing to do with my post that you quoted.

Maybe I should type in all caps?

Nope.

You don’t think it does.

But, it does.

So, all caps all you want… or just consider what I’m saying.

Either way, all good.

 

[Selassie I]

Nope.

You don’t think it does.

But, it does.

So, all caps all you want… or just consider what I’m saying.

Either way, all good.

I've recently worn out my favorite Russell Westbrook quotes... but they would fit here perfectly too.

Somebody's tripping.

 

[gogoat1]

Yes @OldSchool I started another thread. For all of you who loved him and put him up a pedestal, but Brandon Staley did stupid things too and it got him thrown out of, well, what should be San Diego. Anyways, the Lions are up 24-10 in the 3rd quarter, easy FG to make it 27-10 and he goes for it because he is big bad Dan. Well, you dumbass, you cost your team a trip to the Super Bowl, where are you going, you one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater dumbass?

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I told my wife when it happened, he is going to need those 3 points. It was just dumb to go for it there. SF just got a field goal when they are getting their asses kicked. You simply take the 3 points on a plate right in front of you and stay up by 3 scores.
He had another one later in the game, 4th and short. But the actual play was a 15-20 yard pass attempt.
Not a 4-5 yard pass like it should have been.
Dan go out coached, but he out coached himself.
Its just a terrible Super Bowl. The Lions AND the Ravens let me down.
I despise the Native Killers by the Bay. But I have to root for the Chiefs. You would think that would kinda make me happy with Chiefs getting revenge.
But I have to look a Tay-Tay now. Can't stand her.

 

[Pupped]

I've recently worn out my favorite Russell Westbrook quotes... but they would fit here perfectly too.

Somebody's tripping.

Oh, man… Westbrook truther are the worst.

I get the pain.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Sure.

I just think players making plays and not making plays was the biggest difference and, to me, it’s not close.

At best, kicking FG gets you 6.

No fumble, catching the 4th down pass, and Jameson catching the TD would’ve added 15, if my math is right.

Oh… and downing it at the 1.

I think the biggest argument from Campbell's 1st bypass of a FG is he basically killed their momentum with that and gave the Whiners hope. Hope is a dangerous thing plus it allowed the crowd back into as well. The snowball started from there as it also put more pressure on the Lions to stop that momentum with their shitty defense. If that momentum flip could have been delayed a bit more, we are talking about the Whiners choking.

 

[gogoat1]

I hope Dan Campbell has a serious talk with a Buddhist priest about Karma and how it works.

I don't know about a Buddhist priest and all that. But the general concept of Karma is real. You get what you give. Life is just a big mirror. Your thoughts become your reality ect.
If you are a bad person bad things happen to you.
Not saying Campbell is bad, but those multiple cheap shots sure looked bad to me.

 

[WestCoastRam]

FWIW, great defensive play call on that 4th down. Made it look like man, then played cover-2. Good job Wilks.

Also, if a football hits you in the hands, gotta catch it. They will be off target. Can you imagine the discussions on here if Stafford who has some crazy accuracy had a bunch of his inaccurate throws dropped by our WRs. We had some absolutely gobsmacking fantastic catches this year on inaccurate throws.

All being said, Campbell prob should have kicked on that last 4th but it truly was only one variable amongst many.

 

[Pupped]

I think the biggest argument from Campbell's 1st bypass of a FG is he basically killed their momentum with that and gave the Whiners hope. Hope is a dangerous thing plus it allowed the crowd back into as well. The snowball started from there as it also put more pressure on the Lions to stop that momentum with their shitty defense. If that momentum flip could have been delayed a bit more, we are talking about the Whiners choking.

Maybe?
Maybe he misses the kick like Moody? Maybe he’s nervous because he thinks coach is playing it safe? Maybe Reynolds catches it and they close the door right there?

I just think there are too many built-in assumptions.. and that players making plays would’ve made these scenarios irrelevant.

 

[Allen2McVay]

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He had another one later in the game, 4th and short. But the actual play was a 15-20 yard pass attempt.
Not a 4-5 yard pass like it should have been.
...

Just because that's the way the play unfolded, that does not mean it was the play call/intent.

There was a detailed breakdown this morning of that 4th down play that suggested the primary and perhaps secondary receiving options were not open (one commentator thought Warner made an excellent late adjustment, placing himself in the desired passing lane); and there was pressure up-the-middle from Armstead that forced Goff out-of-the-pocket, leading to the longer pass attempt.

No way for these commentators (all three ex-players) could be certain but their analysis made sense.

 

[Selassie I]

Oh, man… Westbrook truther are the worst.

I get the pain.

Dan Campbell self-sabotaged Lions in brutal collapse after inspiring season

You have to go back to the beginning here. You have to go back to Dan Campbell’s opening press conference a few years ago.

nypost.com

 

[Pupped]

Dan Campbell self-sabotaged Lions in brutal collapse after inspiring season

You have to go back to the beginning here. You have to go back to Dan Campbell’s opening press conference a few years ago.

nypost.com

And I’ve listened to one pod & read articles that have my viewpoint.

Shrug.

One of the funniest things about the discourse… people jumping on Campbell can’t seem to decide if it’s because of “stupid fucking analytics nerds” or because Campbell is “being manly.”

Pick a lane, folks lol.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Maybe?
Maybe he misses the kick like Moody? Maybe he’s nervous because he thinks coach is playing it safe? Maybe Reynolds catches it and they close the door right there?

I just think there are too many built-in assumptions.. and that players making plays would’ve made these scenarios irrelevant.

Agree that anything can be questioned, but it was dumb to do that. By kicking that FG, it would have kept the Whiners hopes at bay much longer. We'll never know because Campbell did the dumbest thing and should have just traded points there. Aren't you also making assumptions by guessing they would have missed the FG? Just saying.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

And I’ve listened to one pod & read articles that have my viewpoint.

Shrug.

One of the funniest things about the discourse… people jumping on Campbell can’t seem to decide if it’s because of “stupid fucking analytics nerds” or because Campbell is “being manly.”

Pick a lane, folks lol.

He's being a stupid caveman hahaha

 

[Pupped]

Agree that anything can be questioned, but it was dumb to do that. By kicking that FG, it would have kept the Whiners hopes at bay much longer. We'll never know because Campbell did the dumbest thing and should have just traded points there. Aren't you also making assumptions by guessing they would have missed the FG? Just saying.

No, I don’t assume he’d miss. At all. I’m saying it’s possible.
And, disagree… there are different perspectives on whether it was the right thing to do.
The analytics crowd totally backs it.. the traditional crowd doesn’t. Both have reasons.

Pinning the game on that decision is waaaaaay reductive to me.

 

[Selassie I]

And I’ve listened to one pod & read articles that have my viewpoint.

Shrug.

One of the funniest things about the discourse… people jumping on Campbell can’t seem to decide if it’s because of “stupid fucking analytics nerds” or because Campbell is “being manly.”

Pick a lane, folks lol.

 

[Pupped]

From the analytics crowd….


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[Tano]

I thought it was stupid to shit on him after his knee biting comment.

I thought it was stupid to shit on him when his team wasn't immediately good.

I thought it was stupid to worship him as his team began to play well and even dominate a bit on offense.

And I think it's stupid to shit on him now when he learned some tough lessons in an NFC Championship game. Truth is he's a good head coach that has a lot of ego and a lot to learn. Also truth is he's not our problem, unless you're someone who secretly wears a Goff powder blue jersey on game days.

I am only calling him stupid because I hate the fricken 49ers

Otherwise I wouldn't care one bit

Feel bad for Goff but don't really care about the Lions after the illegal hits they did.

 

[Jorgeh0605]

Campbell make the wrong move. I love analytics, and feel like they really benefit a team over the course of a season. But this was a single game, against a team who's best player is a running back, with a coach who's scheme relies on the run game. Take the 3 points to go up 3 scores.