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Pats offering free exchanges on Hernandez jerseys
Not only are the Patriots no longer selling Aaron Hernandez jerseys. They’re offering to take yours back if you bought one before he was arrested for murder.

The team announced they would exchange any Hernandez jerseys purchased from the team store or online for “a new Patriots jersey of comparable value.” The exchange policy has a number of provisions, and is only good during the weekend of July 6-7.

“We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys, but may not understand why parents don’t want them wearing their Hernandez jerseys anymore,” team spokesperson Stacey James said. “We hope this opportunity to exchange those jerseys at the Patriots ProShop for another player’s jersey will be well received by parents.”

The league has already scrubbed his stats off their website, and anything the Patriots can do to make anyone forget they were ever a part of this, they’re going to do.

The offer only applies to in-stock merchandise, and not custom orders, so if you want to trade in for a Tim Tebow, we’d advise getting there early.
:rofl: :lmao: :plzstop: :2funny: :hahaha: :lull:
 

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albefree69 said:
Pats offering free exchanges on Hernandez jerseys
Not only are the Patriots no longer selling Aaron Hernandez jerseys. They’re offering to take yours back if you bought one before he was arrested for murder.

The team announced they would exchange any Hernandez jerseys purchased from the team store or online for “a new Patriots jersey of comparable value.” The exchange policy has a number of provisions, and is only good during the weekend of July 6-7.

“We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys, but may not understand why parents don’t want them wearing their Hernandez jerseys anymore,” team spokesperson Stacey James said. “We hope this opportunity to exchange those jerseys at the Patriots ProShop for another player’s jersey will be well received by parents.”

The league has already scrubbed his stats off their website, and anything the Patriots can do to make anyone forget they were ever a part of this, they’re going to do.

The offer only applies to in-stock merchandise, and not custom orders, so if you want to trade in for a Tim Tebow, we’d advise getting there early.
:rofl: :lmao: :plzstop: :2funny: :hahaha: :lull:
Comparable value? Does that mean you only get a #3 wide receiver's jersey in trade?
 

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X said:
albefree69 said:
Pats offering free exchanges on Hernandez jerseys
Not only are the Patriots no longer selling Aaron Hernandez jerseys. They’re offering to take yours back if you bought one before he was arrested for murder.

The team announced they would exchange any Hernandez jerseys purchased from the team store or online for “a new Patriots jersey of comparable value.” The exchange policy has a number of provisions, and is only good during the weekend of July 6-7.

“We know that children love wearing their Patriots jerseys, but may not understand why parents don’t want them wearing their Hernandez jerseys anymore,” team spokesperson Stacey James said. “We hope this opportunity to exchange those jerseys at the Patriots ProShop for another player’s jersey will be well received by parents.”

The league has already scrubbed his stats off their website, and anything the Patriots can do to make anyone forget they were ever a part of this, they’re going to do.

The offer only applies to in-stock merchandise, and not custom orders, so if you want to trade in for a Tim Tebow, we’d advise getting there early.
:rofl: :lmao: :plzstop: :2funny: :hahaha: :lull:
Comparable value? Does that mean you only get a #3 wide receiver's jersey in trade?

Probably means we're going to see a lot of Amendola, Fells and Uh-Oh.
 

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X hitting the tip of the iceberg:
Comparable value? Does that mean you only get a #3 wide receiver's jersey in trade?
:what: :rofl:
 

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Good PR move.....plus it will reduce the considerable stress that is going to be put on landfills in the area from people throwing jerseys away. Because you know everyone who owns one is tossing them out right now......Who in the world would keep it.

I bet there will be an issue of National Geographic that is going to have some lost tribe in the Amazon.....and they will all be wearing his jersey.
 

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LesBaker forgetting the two idiots:
Who in the world would keep it.

You're forgetting the two woooo girls from the video. :lol:
 

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LesBaker forgetting the two idiots:
Who in the world would keep it.

You're forgetting the two woooo girls from the video. :lol:

Lets hope they had a change of heart eh.
 

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<a class="postlink" href="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/28/prosecutor-says-all-men-in-car-with-lloyd-are-in-custody/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-custody/</a>
Prosecutor says all men in car with Lloyd are in custody
With Ernest Wallace wanted as an accessory after the fact in connection with the murder of Odin Lloyd, it appeared that he wasn’t one of the other two men allegedly in a car with Aaron Hernandez and Odin Lloyd in the moments before Lloyd’s death. If, after all, Wallace were in the car and in turn with Hernandez when Lloyd was killed, Wallace also would be an accessory before the fact.

But Bristol County District Attorney Sam Sutter said Friday that he believes all three men in the car with Lloyd are now in custody. The three men known to be in custody are Wallace, Hernandez, and Carlos Ortiz (pictured).

There’s still something odd happening. When prosecutor Bill McCauley explained the facts at Wednesday’s arraignment, he listed things Hernandez allegedly said to Lloyd in the car, which helped show Hernandez’s motive to kill Lloyd. With Hernandez not talking and Lloyd not available, this strongly suggested someone else in the car already was cooperating.

But Wallace was at large and Ortiz was arrested on Wednesday in Bristol, Connecticut. It’s possible that Ortiz was arrested and interrogated before Hernandez’s arraignment and shared that information with police. But that’s a lot to coordinate between North Attleboro, Massachusetts and Bristol.

There’s still a chance, then, that the fourth person in the car was arrested or turned himself in before Wednesday (and is, to make Sutter’s comment truthful, “in custody”), and that police are hoping to gloss over that fact in order to dissuade the media from realizing that there’s still one more person who has not been accounted for, and in turn trying to figure out who the guy is.
 

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<a class="postlink" href="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/28/billick-explains-ravens-decision-to-rally-around-ray-lewis/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ray-lewis/</a>
Billick explains Ravens’ decision to rally around Ray Lewis

If the Ravens’ qualification for Super Bowl XLVII dusted off long-forgotten memories of the alleged involvement of Ray Lewis in a double murder, the Aaron Hernandez situation has sandblasted them. And with the Patriots dumping Hernandez the moment he was arrested in connection with the death of Odin Lloyd, the contrast between the respective approaches of the two franchises to situation involving murder became as sharp as possible.

While many believe the Patriots must have had access to inside information about the Hernandez investigation at the time he was cut, the more accurate assumption would be that the Patriots decided early in the process, without the benefit of any specific intelligence about the case, that no employee arrested in connection with a murder investigation is fit to remain employed by the team.

The Ravens came to the exact opposite conclusion. The man who coached the team at the time, Brian Billick, recently compiled an exhaustive explanation of the team’s reasoning and approach to the Lewis situation.

Full amount of BS found here:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000215125/article/ravens-handling-of-ray-lewis-case-a-lesson-in-managing-a-crisis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100000 ... g-a-crisis</a>

Billick explains that the team’s decision to rally around Lewis arose from their faith in his “overall innocence.” In so doing, Billick implies that the Patriots had no faith in Hernandez’s innocence.

But Lewis was hardly “innocent.” Lewis wouldn’t have been arrested, charged, and prosecuted based on no evidence. Prosecutors routinely walk away from trying to secure a conviction under the very high standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt if they believe that the evidence, while pointing to the defendant’s guilt, nevertheless creates an opening for an “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit” concoction of enough doubt to secure an acquittal. Moreover, judges don’t allow cases to go to trial absent the existence of enough evidence to allow a reasonable jury to conclude that the high bar of proof beyond a reasonable doubt had been met.

For Ray Lewis, the prosecutor eventually decided to cut a deal, and Lewis decided not to tell the prosecutor to pound sand/salt/whatever and force the trial to a verdict. This wasn’t a case where the charges were dropped with no strings attached. Lewis pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice in order to escape the far more serious charge of murder.

The Ravens had no qualms about welcoming back to the team without suspension or other punishment (other than the $250,000 fine imposed by the league) a man who pleaded guilty to obstructing justice in a murder case. New England’s swift and decisive action regarding Hernandez this week amounts to a clear statement that, even if Hernandez had simply lied to the police or concealed evidence regarding a murder, any alleged wrongdoing regarding a murder provides enough reason to move on.

Right or wrong, the Ravens treated Ray Lewis far differently than the Patriots treated Hernandez. And while it seems that Billick may be trying in artful fashion to soften some of the harsh, inescapable realities the Ray Lewis case, the fact remains that the Ravens had no qualms about embracing and defending a man who clearly had enough involvement to result in a judge allowing a murder trial to proceed, and in Lewis eventually entering a guilty plea for a crime related to the killings. The Patriots, in contrast, opted to have no further involvement with anyone who had done anything, actually or allegedly, that would get him arrested in connection with the intentional death of another human.

For each organization, it sets a precedent that they surely hope they’ll never have to use in a similar case.

Billick throwing out some BS.
 

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So according to CNN this morning, Hernandez is better at destroying peoples' lives than evidence. Apparently, his home surveillance shows him with the gun in his hand when he arrives home on the night of Lloyd's death. Oopsie! :oops: Oh - and they traced the silver SUV used in the drive by back to Hernandez. Oops again.
 

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So according to CNN this morning, Hernandez is better at destroying peoples' lives than evidence. Apparently, his home surveillance shows him with the gun in his hand when he arrives home on the night of Lloyd's death. Oopsie! :oops: Oh - and they traced the silver SUV used in the drive by back to Hernandez. Oops again.

He is not the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer, huh? Brady is not going to have a lot of targets in the fall....we can all hope.
 

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On a side note.
 

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Couldn't resist lol
 

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Something to be proud of.

So three of the NFC West teams are in the top seven. :cool:

I agree, something to be proud of. The four pillars helped in that regard.

On a related note, I wonder if the Seahags total would still be 20 if they started the data from when Carroll got there? :lol:
 

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Those Patriot jabs are awesome! Thank you Yamahopper and Rabid! :lol:
 

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Thordaddy said:
albefree69 said:
The video after the one you linked explained about the CAP hits for the Cheatriots.
$2.5 million this year
$7.5 million next year.
Almost no chance of recouping any of that because they cut him.
I can't see how they can't invoke a morals clause in the contract and recoup some of the bonus.As I recall the Falcons did in the Vick case.

Maybe not :

Patriots void Aaron Hernandez's remaining guaranteed money

By Jon Benne on Jun 29 2013
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/6/29/4477728/aaron-hernandez-contract-patriots-arrest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/6/29/4 ... ots-arrest</a>

The Patriots have voided the rest of the guaranteed money in Aaron Hernandez's contract. His cap hit will be $2.55 million in 2013.

The New England Patriots have voided the remaining guaranteed money owed to former tight end Aaron Hernandez, according to Ben Volin of the Boston Globe.

With the guaranteed money voided, Hernandez's cap hit will be $2.55 million in 2013 and $7.5 million in 2014. He is still due a $3.25 million signing bonus, though the Patriots are expected to challenge that payment as well. The Patriots released the tight end just hours after his arrest.

When asked the reason the team nullified a guaranteed portion of the contract, a Patriots executive told Volin that the contract "was guaranteed for skill and injury. It wasn't guaranteed for personal conduct that cast the club in a negative light."
 

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nighttrain said:
iced said:
nighttrain said:
albefree69 said:
LesBaker singing money makes the world go round:
It's the money involved IMO.

Also if any drug was made legal there would still be a black market for it in some way shape or form and there would be violence associated with it because of the money.

I think that's a little too far reaching Les. Think alcohol and Amsterdam. But I get your point and it would have to be legal everywhere to remove all the money induced violence.

IMO.

As for waiting patiently, give me something else to do and I'll think about it. :lol:
End the war on drugs, it aint working any better than prohibition. Legalize Pot, Cocaine, and heroin. Just make the last two from the pharmacy. Immediate end to our border problems over night. No more cartels, anywhere..
no more gangs, eh. and no more drug kingpins.
I can get any of this stuff with a few phone calls, so what is the problem?
train

Rather do what portugal did.. legalize all drugs, and have like a designated place for people who do all the hard stuff to do it. A lot of the kids in portugal saw what kind of junkies these people are, and surprisingly, teen drug use and drug use in general dropped as well as crime.

BTW I hate it when people say weed is a gate way drug - its not, its only gateway is to the fridge. Alcohol and cigs are the true gateway drugs,and they often lead to each other.

Marriage is more of a gateway drug then weed - one can lead to alcohol abuse and put a huge dent in your wallet :bign:
Iced, all you did was embellish on my comment, but thank you
train
Gov'ts should stay out of the drug business AND the marriage business.
 

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Stranger said:
nighttrain said:
iced said:
nighttrain said:
albefree69 said:
LesBaker singing money makes the world go round:
It's the money involved IMO.

Also if any drug was made legal there would still be a black market for it in some way shape or form and there would be violence associated with it because of the money.

I think that's a little too far reaching Les. Think alcohol and Amsterdam. But I get your point and it would have to be legal everywhere to remove all the money induced violence.

IMO.

As for waiting patiently, give me something else to do and I'll think about it. :lol:
End the war on drugs, it aint working any better than prohibition. Legalize Pot, Cocaine, and heroin. Just make the last two from the pharmacy. Immediate end to our border problems over night. No more cartels, anywhere..
no more gangs, eh. and no more drug kingpins.
I can get any of this stuff with a few phone calls, so what is the problem?
train

Rather do what portugal did.. legalize all drugs, and have like a designated place for people who do all the hard stuff to do it. A lot of the kids in portugal saw what kind of junkies these people are, and surprisingly, teen drug use and drug use in general dropped as well as crime.

BTW I hate it when people say weed is a gate way drug - its not, its only gateway is to the fridge. Alcohol and cigs are the true gateway drugs,and they often lead to each other.

Marriage is more of a gateway drug then weed - one can lead to alcohol abuse and put a huge dent in your wallet :bign:
Iced, all you did was embellish on my comment, but thank you
train
Gov'ts should stay out of the drug business AND the marriage business.

Disagree, it's their job to be in those businesses.