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Dz1 · Jan 17, 2021

We all know when we have the s@#t like AD and Goff just is not it.

Wish he was.

Dz1 · Jan 17, 2021

Short post and watch the tape.

Watch Wolf go thru progression reads ,then watch Goff.

Wolf again and again better reads. Jmho

Gandalf · Jan 17, 2021

Dz1 said:
With all do respects, Goff is never going to be a win it all Qb,like certain Elites, Never.

He is what he is,an air raid Qb that has trouble with reads and progression. He did have a nice deep ball but didn't see it this year.

Imho if it wasn't for McVay he wouldn't have got a 2nd contract.

It's a very frustrating situation. When McVay came, they went out and got Whit, Sullivan and had Saffold. The offense clicked and Goff thrived. Unfortunately, Sullivan left, Saffold wasn't resigned and Whit has gotten old. The problem has been that they haven't went back to that blueprint for success. The line has fallen apart and they haven't fixed it.
It's a shame they haven't went back to what worked before.

They were happy enough with Goff to give him a top of the line contract earlier than they needed to. If Goff is not the guy, they made a major mistake giving him that contract. We run the same offense we did back then, but don't have the horses up front to pull it off. Either fix the line or change your scheme to fit the players you have. You can't just trot out the same losing formula every week and expect different results.

Our hurry up offense works very well, unfortunately we run it for a few plays and then go back to the same plodding, slow paced, predictable offense. Our WRs are usually covered because the defense knows what we are going to do. We could use our RBs and TEs more to change things up, but we usually don't.
The offense sucks but the blame can't all be placed on Goff.

jrry32 · Jan 17, 2021

TXRams86 said:
I respect the hell out of you as a poster and your insight is often second to none. But with all due respect, you're giving your own opinion on Goff. What I think Merlin is saying is that "we", as in the organization, knows that they have in Goff. Correct me if I'm wrong here @Merlin. Goff is going into his 6th year as an NFL quarterback, fourth straight year in this system, and if the Rams haven't figured out what they have in him then that's a huge concern.

I'm not offering my opinion. I've already said I don't know what Goff will be and that I think we should bring in a QB to push him who is capable of starting if he struggles. What I am saying is that nobody should feel confident they know what Goff is. I'm simply tired of making this point and having it be ignored. Pocket passers do not typically hit their primes until between 27 and 30 years old. Goff is 26 years old. He's not in the window yet.

So why am I frustrated? Because I've said this repeatedly for a couple years now. I've used examples. But people continue to tell me that they know better. Let me drive this point home. Here's a list of many of the franchise QB pocket passers from this generation. Take a look at their age-26 seasons. Take a look at the seasons that follow (the window where I have said pocket passers enter their primes). What you consistently see is a major jump in their numbers in that 27 years to 30 years old range:

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