DR RAM said:I am arguing with 5 guys jrry32. My counter to you on your specific comment, is that we don't know if there was an option on the play. And, if there was, again, if he looks at Tavon, the defense shifts over there, you have to know this, further, maybe Sam didn't feel comfortable, because Tavon has dropped his share of these, and he may not trust that Austin rins the right route. It's not all black and white as you seem to want to make it. Lastly, you don't think that Kendricks should have done a better job on that play. He should have stepped up and shielded that ball.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Neither of us know what the play call was, jrry32. In the NFL, Kendricks was open, he should have made the play. It's freaking easy to second guess.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Again, BS, you stick your foot and you throw it, or you probably take a sack or get it batted down.
Agreed. BS. Great QBs don't read the defense, see that Austin will be open and throw it to him. They force it into double coverage to Kendricks.
See you guys later after the huge win.
There is no 2nd option on a three step drop, unless the receiver falls down.
There shouldn't have been. If you read the defense, Austin should have been your primary target. They had nobody lined up over him. The outside CB was off. It was clear zone. I read that before the play and drew a quick out to Austin on my screen.
Guess what he ran? A quick out. Our outside WR forced the CB off. Austin ran his quick out underneath it to space.
It was there. I saw it the whole time. That should have been Sam's first read if he's reading the defense pre-snap.
I know for a fact that he ran the quick out. So yes, I get frustrated. I watch great QBs play and see them almost always knowing who is going to get open. I don't see that in Sam.
UKRam74 said:That could have been a lot worse.
how about giving it a fucking rest already!bwdenverram said:DR RAM said:I am arguing with 5 guys jrry32. My counter to you on your specific comment, is that we don't know if there was an option on the play. And, if there was, again, if he looks at Tavon, the defense shifts over there, you have to know this, further, maybe Sam didn't feel comfortable, because Tavon has dropped his share of these, and he may not trust that Austin rins the right route. It's not all black and white as you seem to want to make it. Lastly, you don't think that Kendricks should have done a better job on that play. He should have stepped up and shielded that ball.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Neither of us know what the play call was, jrry32. In the NFL, Kendricks was open, he should have made the play. It's freaking easy to second guess.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Again, BS, you stick your foot and you throw it, or you probably take a sack or get it batted down.
Agreed. BS. Great QBs don't read the defense, see that Austin will be open and throw it to him. They force it into double coverage to Kendricks.
See you guys later after the huge win.
There is no 2nd option on a three step drop, unless the receiver falls down.
There shouldn't have been. If you read the defense, Austin should have been your primary target. They had nobody lined up over him. The outside CB was off. It was clear zone. I read that before the play and drew a quick out to Austin on my screen.
Guess what he ran? A quick out. Our outside WR forced the CB off. Austin ran his quick out underneath it to space.
It was there. I saw it the whole time. That should have been Sam's first read if he's reading the defense pre-snap.
I know for a fact that he ran the quick out. So yes, I get frustrated. I watch great QBs play and see them almost always knowing who is going to get open. I don't see that in Sam.
I'm not even trying to argue with you Dr. We can all assume Kendricks was indeed the hot read and he probably was.
The reality is the play should of been a first down. I think Sam throws it earlier and Lance goes and catches it and none of this is a discussion. I think what I would say and maybe Jrry is saying is maybe at the LOS Sam should of looked at the coverage and changed it to Austin. But you are right, he has dropped some passes so maybe that was a factor. It's one play in a game and not worth this much back and forth. It was just an observation, that's all. I'll kick myself out of this conversation.
Shit, I'm out of it too. I can say that the throw might have been a little late, but I can't question and point blame at what I DON'T know, that is silly to me.bwdenverram said:DR RAM said:I am arguing with 5 guys jrry32. My counter to you on your specific comment, is that we don't know if there was an option on the play. And, if there was, again, if he looks at Tavon, the defense shifts over there, you have to know this, further, maybe Sam didn't feel comfortable, because Tavon has dropped his share of these, and he may not trust that Austin rins the right route. It's not all black and white as you seem to want to make it. Lastly, you don't think that Kendricks should have done a better job on that play. He should have stepped up and shielded that ball.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Neither of us know what the play call was, jrry32. In the NFL, Kendricks was open, he should have made the play. It's freaking easy to second guess.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Again, BS, you stick your foot and you throw it, or you probably take a sack or get it batted down.
Agreed. BS. Great QBs don't read the defense, see that Austin will be open and throw it to him. They force it into double coverage to Kendricks.
See you guys later after the huge win.
There is no 2nd option on a three step drop, unless the receiver falls down.
There shouldn't have been. If you read the defense, Austin should have been your primary target. They had nobody lined up over him. The outside CB was off. It was clear zone. I read that before the play and drew a quick out to Austin on my screen.
Guess what he ran? A quick out. Our outside WR forced the CB off. Austin ran his quick out underneath it to space.
It was there. I saw it the whole time. That should have been Sam's first read if he's reading the defense pre-snap.
I know for a fact that he ran the quick out. So yes, I get frustrated. I watch great QBs play and see them almost always knowing who is going to get open. I don't see that in Sam.
I'm not even trying to argue with you Dr. We can all assume Kendricks was indeed the hot read and he probably was.
The reality is the play should of been a first down. I think Sam throws it earlier and Lance goes and catches it and none of this is a discussion. I think what I would say and maybe Jrry is saying is maybe at the LOS Sam should of looked at the coverage and changed it to Austin. But you are right, he has dropped some passes so maybe that was a factor. It's one play in a game and not worth this much back and forth. It was just an observation, that's all. I'll kick myself out of this conversation.
rickrawk said:how about giving it a freaking rest already!bwdenverram said:DR RAM said:I am arguing with 5 guys jrry32. My counter to you on your specific comment, is that we don't know if there was an option on the play. And, if there was, again, if he looks at Tavon, the defense shifts over there, you have to know this, further, maybe Sam didn't feel comfortable, because Tavon has dropped his share of these, and he may not trust that Austin rins the right route. It's not all black and white as you seem to want to make it. Lastly, you don't think that Kendricks should have done a better job on that play. He should have stepped up and shielded that ball.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Neither of us know what the play call was, jrry32. In the NFL, Kendricks was open, he should have made the play. It's freaking easy to second guess.jrry32 said:DR RAM said:Again, BS, you stick your foot and you throw it, or you probably take a sack or get it batted down.
Agreed. BS. Great QBs don't read the defense, see that Austin will be open and throw it to him. They force it into double coverage to Kendricks.
See you guys later after the huge win.
There is no 2nd option on a three step drop, unless the receiver falls down.
There shouldn't have been. If you read the defense, Austin should have been your primary target. They had nobody lined up over him. The outside CB was off. It was clear zone. I read that before the play and drew a quick out to Austin on my screen.
Guess what he ran? A quick out. Our outside WR forced the CB off. Austin ran his quick out underneath it to space.
It was there. I saw it the whole time. That should have been Sam's first read if he's reading the defense pre-snap.
I know for a fact that he ran the quick out. So yes, I get frustrated. I watch great QBs play and see them almost always knowing who is going to get open. I don't see that in Sam.
I'm not even trying to argue with you Dr. We can all assume Kendricks was indeed the hot read and he probably was.
The reality is the play should of been a first down. I think Sam throws it earlier and Lance goes and catches it and none of this is a discussion. I think what I would say and maybe Jrry is saying is maybe at the LOS Sam should of looked at the coverage and changed it to Austin. But you are right, he has dropped some passes so maybe that was a factor. It's one play in a game and not worth this much back and forth. It was just an observation, that's all. I'll kick myself out of this conversation.
GO RAMS!!!!
brokeu91 said:We might as well just fair catch every punt because everytime they try to return it, there is invariably a flag and we end up going backwards
I feel bad for Tavon
brokeu91 said:We might as well just fair catch every punt because everytime they try to return it, there is invariably a flag and we end up going backwards
I feel bad for Tavon