Denver's OLB Von Miller traded to Rams

[norcalramfan]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7gNJR9bh4

 

[Mackeyser]

I dunno what y'all are talking about.

Next year? Maaaaan, there ain't nothing but this year...this moment...OUR moment...

I'm gonna savor this year...every moment...until we hoist that Lombardi...

THIS IS OUR YEAR!!!

next year will come when it comes...

 

[FarNorth]

You know what? Everyone keeps talking about the VM trade and how he’s taking us to the promised land (me included) but something kept bugging me that just wasn’t sitting right…. and BINGO!

We definitely need to redefine our defensive philosophy… I mean we can’t just trot our D onto the field with Bend Don’t Break mentality anymore. We can’t, and shouldn’t waste a great pass rush because our DBs are playing 10 yards away from the receiver. … That crap just drives me nuts!

Hoping Morris decides to take more chances and play more press coverage... but seriously when you have #5 back there, not sure you can categorize that as taking a chance ..

More likely Morris will rush four, blitz a bit, and blanket the secondary with five or six guys in coverage no matter where they line up.

 

[Kupped]

Have we talked about the fact Von is an upgrade to what the Rams have on run defense, too?

 

[OldSchool]

Have we talked about the fact Von is an upgrade to what the Rams have on run defense, too?

He and Floyd absolutely are top notch edge guys containing the run. Love this trade in every way.

 

[JYB]

Lewis and Obo for sure will grow from being around Miller. Playing edge is different than inside, AD can teach a lot of techniques, but he does certain things no one can emulate. Von will offer a different perspective from his years dominating on the edge and I have no doubt the youngins will be able to pick up some things from him. Floyd as well for that matter, his play should improve because he's never been able to learn from a truly elite edge rusher like Von before.

Didn't Floyd play with Khalil Mack?

 

[Mackeyser]

Floyd in Chicago had the same issue as Von Miller this year... he ended up in coverage too much and then got looked at based on stats.

It's a shame. Floyd has proven to be a complete OLB.

 

[PhillyRam]

More likely Morris will rush four, blitz a bit, and blanket the secondary with five or six guys in coverage no matter where they line up.

Could see a "Jet front" like the Giants used yrs ago on 3rd down.

Miller, Donald, Lewis, Floyd

 

[Ramer]

More likely Morris will rush four, blitz a bit, and blanket the secondary with five or six guys in coverage no matter where they line up.

A good receiver will always find a sweet spot in that blanket ... just saying.
Even if it's just a quick out.

 

[Mackeyser]

I read on twitter that the Rams have let it be known that their plan is to retain Miller beyond this year.

I didn't save it, my screen refreshed and I can't find it, but if I do, I'll link the tweet.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I read on twitter that the Rams have let it be known that their plan is to retain Miller beyond this year.

I didn't save it, my screen refreshed and I can't find it, but if I do, I'll link the tweet.

McVay said it directly to Farr & JJ on todays broadcast.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

I read on twitter that the Rams have let it be known that their plan is to retain Miller beyond this year.

I didn't save it, my screen refreshed and I can't find it, but if I do, I'll link the tweet.

Snead said it in that interview a few posts above yours.

 

[OldSchool]

I read on twitter that the Rams have let it be known that their plan is to retain Miller beyond this year.

I didn't save it, my screen refreshed and I can't find it, but if I do, I'll link the tweet.

It's in a video posted here at the top of the page.

 

[Mackeyser]

That was it. I’ve been so geeked watching vids, reading tweets and scouring social media for stuff about this trade that it all sort of congeals…

 

[XXXIVwin]

Have we talked about the fact Von is an upgrade to what the Rams have on run defense, too?

Nope. But yeah.

 

[oldnotdead]

What the media doesn't understand is that draft picks are like money on payday. You can bank it, i.e. save it for draft day and hope you receive value for the wait, and wait some more for those picks to bear fruit. Or you can spend it on proven value. The Rams simply spend it on proven value and say screw the waiting and uncertainty. The problem with building and maintaining your roster strictly via the draft is that most rosters will age out before the team is ever completely built. Look how much turnover there is yearly on the average roster. Drafting might cover attrition and give you one or two guys to eventually plug holes in that roster.

The Ram way is to use those expensive high draft picks to trade for proven players while drafting well in the mid - low rounds for developmental talent. Look how well Snead drafts where 4 of the 9 picks are starters or rotational players as rookies. Jones, is a third round pick, Rochell a 4th round pick, Skowronek and Funk 7th round picks and it's only halfway through the season. I think we will see Bobby Brown and Jacob Harris (both 4th round) before the season is over. Snead doesn't need 1st or even second round players to build this roster.

You need only look at the OL to see what I'm saying. His approach to OL building is very old school (2nd to 5th rd, trade, or UFA). Give the rookies a year to develop then play them.

LT Whitworth - UFA 2017
LT Noteboom - 3rd rd
LG Edwards - 5th rd
C Allen - 4th rd
RG Corbett - trade
RT Havenstein - 2nd rd

Matt Stafford, via trade, Justin Hollins, claimed off waivers, Leonard Floyd was a UDFA, Jalen Ramsey via trade, Darious Williams, claimed off waivers, Robert Woods, signed as a UFA, Cooper Kupp, drafted 3rd rd, Darrell Henderson drafted 3rd rd, Jordan Fuller drafted in 6th rd, Taylor Rapp, drafted in the 2nd rd.

Yeah, who needs 1st rd draft picks other than as trade bait. Most of the Ram starters were not 1st rd picks. In fact the majority of their starters are mid or low round picks, obtained by trade or signed as FAs. I laugh at these teams struggling to build their rosters and never really catching up to the attrition leaving obvious holes in their roster.

The Rams needed Miller more than they needed 2 picks. Miller can be an immediate impact player. The odds of a 2nd and 3rd round player being impactful next year is not high. The Rams made the right move IMO.

 

[XXXIVwin]

Von highlights from 2021


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl7IdGfMnjk

 

[KJD_Ram]

on top of what Oldnotdead stated above....Free Agents see what is happening and want in...

 

[Ellard80]

What the media doesn't understand is that draft picks are like money on payday. You can bank it, i.e. save it for draft day and hope you receive value for the wait, and wait some more for those picks to bear fruit. Or you can spend it on proven value. The Rams simply spend it on proven value and say screw the waiting and uncertainty. The problem with building and maintaining your roster strictly via the draft is that most rosters will age out before the team is ever completely built. Look how much turnover there is yearly on the average roster. Drafting might cover attrition and give you one or two guys to eventually plug holes in that roster.

The Ram way is to use those expensive high draft picks to trade for proven players while drafting well in the mid - low rounds for developmental talent. Look how well Snead drafts where 4 of the 9 picks are starters or rotational players as rookies. Jones, is a third round pick, Rochell a 4th round pick, Skowronek and Funk 7th round picks and it's only halfway through the season. I think we will see Bobby Brown and Jacob Harris (both 4th round) before the season is over. Snead doesn't need 1st or even second round players to build this roster.

You need only look at the OL to see what I'm saying. His approach to OL building is very old school (2nd to 5th rd, trade, or UFA). Give the rookies a year to develop then play them.

LT Whitworth - UFA 2017
LT Noteboom - 3rd rd
LG Edwards - 5th rd
C Allen - 4th rd
RG Corbett - trade
RT Havenstein - 2nd rd

Matt Stafford, via trade, Justin Hollins, claimed off waivers, Leonard Floyd was a UDFA, Jalen Ramsey via trade, Darious Williams, claimed off waivers, Robert Woods, signed as a UFA, Cooper Kupp, drafted 3rd rd, Darrell Henderson drafted 3rd rd, Jordan Fuller drafted in 6th rd, Taylor Rapp, drafted in the 2nd rd.

Yeah, who needs 1st rd draft picks other than as trade bait. Most of the Ram starters were not 1st rd picks. In fact the majority of their starters are mid or low round picks, obtained by trade or signed as FAs. I laugh at these teams struggling to build their rosters and never really catching up to the attrition leaving obvious holes in their roster.

The Rams needed Miller more than they needed 2 picks. Miller can be an immediate impact player. The odds of a 2nd and 3rd round player being impactful next year is not high. The Rams made the right move IMO.

This is a very well thought out post - 1st round draft picks are more important for rebuilding teams.. not teams that are trying to win right now.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

What the media doesn't understand is that draft picks are like money on payday. You can bank it, i.e. save it for draft day and hope you receive value for the wait, and wait some more for those picks to bear fruit. Or you can spend it on proven value. The Rams simply spend it on proven value and say screw the waiting and uncertainty. The problem with building and maintaining your roster strictly via the draft is that most rosters will age out before the team is ever completely built. Look how much turnover there is yearly on the average roster. Drafting might cover attrition and give you one or two guys to eventually plug holes in that roster.

The Ram way is to use those expensive high draft picks to trade for proven players while drafting well in the mid - low rounds for developmental talent. Look how well Snead drafts where 4 of the 9 picks are starters or rotational players as rookies. Jones, is a third round pick, Rochell a 4th round pick, Skowronek and Funk 7th round picks and it's only halfway through the season. I think we will see Bobby Brown and Jacob Harris (both 4th round) before the season is over. Snead doesn't need 1st or even second round players to build this roster.

You need only look at the OL to see what I'm saying. His approach to OL building is very old school (2nd to 5th rd, trade, or UFA). Give the rookies a year to develop then play them.

LT Whitworth - UFA 2017
LT Noteboom - 3rd rd
LG Edwards - 5th rd
C Allen - 4th rd
RG Corbett - trade
RT Havenstein - 2nd rd

Matt Stafford, via trade, Justin Hollins, claimed off waivers, Leonard Floyd was a UDFA, Jalen Ramsey via trade, Darious Williams, claimed off waivers, Robert Woods, signed as a UFA, Cooper Kupp, drafted 3rd rd, Darrell Henderson drafted 3rd rd, Jordan Fuller drafted in 6th rd, Taylor Rapp, drafted in the 2nd rd.

Yeah, who needs 1st rd draft picks other than as trade bait. Most of the Ram starters were not 1st rd picks. In fact the majority of their starters are mid or low round picks, obtained by trade or signed as FAs. I laugh at these teams struggling to build their rosters and never really catching up to the attrition leaving obvious holes in their roster.

The Rams needed Miller more than they needed 2 picks. Miller can be an immediate impact player. The odds of a 2nd and 3rd round player being impactful next year is not high. The Rams made the right move IMO.

Great post. Totally agree.

I would add that this strategy is not easily replicated by other teams. LA has some unique properties, and this point in time adds some more unique positives. The Lakers/Dodgers also exploit the typical advantages of playing in LA.

But now add the Ram bonuses on top. Aligned management with a win now mentality, the new stadium, and a coach that is approaching records that have been in place for many decades, while being in his early 30's. Prospective FAs hear from players on the team how good the strength/conditioning programs are, etc.

And of course, we have Les' church bells swinging to and fro throughout the facility...