Cleveland Browns' Garrett suspended indefinitely

[Memento]

Hyperbole nothing more

Hmm?

 

[12intheBox]

This feels like a McSorely type incident. Criminal charges would not be surprising or unprecedented.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Hmm?

You’re being over dramatic and over sensitive and you seem to want blood - and you want the guy to be kicked out of the league to satisfy your personal outrage.

You seem to have zero faith in the constructs in place that will pass judgement and fines on the guy. Why not react after you see the punishment. He’s already not playing for the rest of the year.

Relax. It’s not your job to get justice

 

[Pancake]

In baseball it's a known possibility the pitcher might come after you. If you've ever played at a serious level you understand this is part of the game. You go up to bat with that fact in the back of your mind and be prepared to watch for it.

What happened last night is not a known part of the game. Nobody on a football field at even the highest level expects that and so is not prepared for it whatsoever.

 

[Memento]

You’re being over dramatic and over sensitive and you seem to want blood - and you want the guy to be kicked out of the league to satisfy your personal outrage.

You seem to have zero faith in the constructs in place that will pass judgement and fines on the guy. Why not react after you see the punishment. He’s already not playing for the rest of the year.

Relax. It’s not your job to get justice.

I want him kicked out of the league because he tried to intentionally hurt a player with his own helmet. I'd say the same if this was a Rams player who did it. There's absolutely no place in the NFL or any other place for that shit. Call it personal outrage, if you will.

And of course I have zero faith in the constructs in place: the NFL is inconsistent at best when it comes to throwing the banhammer. That's not even mentioning that the NFLPA will likely manage to get Garrett's suspension heavily reduced to something like four games or some shit like that.

Of course it's not my job to get justice. That doesn't make my opinion any less valid. Much like your like your opinion isn't any less valid.

 

[whitedk57]

Lol @ filing assault charges. That’s dumb asf! Then where does it begin or where does it end? You get an unsportsmanlike and get an assault charge? Roughing the kicker? Go to jail. This is a contact sports and shit happens.

suspend his dumb ass a season and a half without any pay at the minimum.

New York Yankees' slugger Dave Winfield was arrested Thursday...

 

[Psycho_X]

Having looked at the replay a few more times all I know is Rudolph/Garret were both very lucky DeCastro was in the way to make the swing a bit less direct and they were both extremely lucky Rudolph saw what was coming his way and started to duck a little. Otherwise, I think it would have ended with Rudolph unconscious being rushed to a hospital and a much more serious outrage this morning.

Watch that swing in full speed and not slowed down. He whipped that helmet as hard and fast as he could.

 

[Mister Sin]

Rudolph should be out too for trying to rip off his helmet! Then charging him after they got up

 

[Corbin]

If this wasn’t in a football game and someone was swinging a football helmet at your head, would you still feel the same way? He could’ve killed the guy if the helmet hit his head the right way...

This was the most vicious play I’ve ever seen in the NFL. It was BAD.

Answer this. Was this in a football game? Yes or No? If the answer is Yes then it is within the context of a game regardless if it's illegal or not.

Speaking of which, how many activities that happen in an NFL game would be considered assault outside of the stadium?

Football is not about hitting helmetless opponents with their own fucking helmet.

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[Memento]

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Then why are you arguing my point?

 

[Pancake]

Well I guess by your logic a player could pull out a knife or a gun then and start shooting. Of course that's a crime but as you said it's a football game so it doesn't count.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

Ummm pitchers are trying to strike them out, not purposely trying to put a hole in their heads.

Nope. I’m taking about “purpose pitches”. Right at their heads for HR last at-bat or other payback.

Happens every game or two.

 

[sjm1582002]

McSorley did not miss. And yes, I'd say that Marichal definitely deserved time in prison, even if he didn't get it.

Garrett falls into that category.

In my jurisdiction assault is defined as a threat while battery requires physical contact.

McSorley's action would be treated as aggravated battery with a deadly weapon (there must be different legal definitions at the location where the incident occurred.)

Whereas Garrett, if he missed hitting the Pitt QB with the helmet, could be charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Having looked at the replay a few more times all I know is Rudolph/Garret were both very lucky DeCastro was in the way to make the swing a bit less direct and they were both extremely lucky Rudolph saw what was coming his way and started to duck a little. Otherwise, I think it would have ended with Rudolph unconscious being rushed to a hospital and a much more serious outrage this morning.

Watch that swing in full speed and not slowed down. He whipped that helmet as hard and fast as he could.

But it didn’t so.....

 

[Dieter the Brock]

I want him kicked out of the league because he tried to intentionally hurt a player with his own helmet. I'd say the same if this was a Rams player who did it. There's absolutely no place in the NFL or any other place for that shit. Call it personal outrage, if you will.

And of course I have zero faith in the constructs in place: the NFL is inconsistent at best when it comes to throwing the banhammer. That's not even mentioning that the NFLPA will likely manage to get Garrett's suspension heavily reduced to something like four games or some shit like that.

Of course it's not my job to get justice. That doesn't make my opinion any less valid. Much like your like your opinion isn't any less valid.

Okay
Then you agree with everything I said

 

[Dieter the Brock]

Well I guess by your logic a player could pull out a knife or a gun then and start shooting. Of course that's a crime but as you said it's a football game so it doesn't count.

Yet more Hyperbole

 

[Memento]

Okay
Then you agree with everything I said

If you say so. I'm not in the mood to argue; I've got brand new Pokémon games to try out and a writing class tomorrow, so I'm in a good mood.

 

[sjm1582002]

Nope. I’m taking about “purpose pitches”. Right at their heads for HR last at-bat or other payback.

Happens every game or two.

That's what led to the famous Marichal/Roseboro incident.

Marichal was "head hunting" Dodgers and Koufax would not retaliate.

When Marichal came to bat Roseboro (supposedly) would fire the ball back to Koufax and barely miss Marichal's head.

Repeatedly.

 

[Dieter the Brock]

If you say so. I'm not in the mood to argue; I've got brand new Pokémon games to try out and a writing class tomorrow, so I'm in a good mood.

If Calling for a guy to lose his career and face criminal charges is you in a good mood....... watch out folks

Nobody is arguing. Here
You agree with me — you agree that you don’t trust any constructs in place that are set to deem the appropriate punishment, you are guided by personal outrage, and that you are being over dramatic. We are good.

 

[Psycho_X]

But it didn’t so.....

so they’re lucky like I said. Otherwise Rudolph is seriously hurt and Garrett is in jail.