Black Monday and the Coaching Carousel

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Merlin

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I’ve said all year I didn’t think Harbaugh would come back to the nfl. I think now he does and the Jets is appealing.

Yeah the teams who nabbed the young QBs are the ones the top guys will consider first. McCarthy wouldn't have looked twice at the Browns without the young QB in place. Darnold & Rosen both allow their teams to talk to guys like Harbaugh without him hanging up.

Jets in particular have a reasonably good roster, if Harbaugh were to go there IMO he'd have them winning in short order. But that front office... There is no reason to think they can get the hire right sadly.
 

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I disagree this being an attractive job....Is GM Steve Keim staying or going? And if he stays and has another sub par draft, a new GM will be coming on board without hiring his Head Coach. Also the talent has been drained and it's going to take a few years. Josh McDaniels who I believe is overrated would make more sense in Green Bay, but if the Packers do hire Pat Fitzgerald that could be interesting as I always felt Fitzgerald was average, but Northwestern is tough to win at and he's done wonders for that program.
I agree McDaniels is overrated and the job is overrated both. I want him at a division rival because he’ll fail spectacularly.
 

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And Mayock likely to sign on as Raiders GM. NFL Network takes a hit.

Hope Chucky has a splash guard ready for meetings

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/31/mike-zimmer-rick-spielman-will-return-in-minnesota/

Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer said that he will not resign or retire after his team fell short of the playoffs this season and he won’t get fired either.

The same is true for General Manager Rick Spielman. NFL Media reports that Vikings owners Zygi and Mark Wilf were in the team’s end of season meetings on Monday and reiterated their belief that the two men are the right men to lead the football side of their operations.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/31/bruce-arians-interested-in-buccaneers-job/

Former Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians has his eye on more than one coaching vacancy.

Despite previously saying the Browns job is the only one he’d consider, Arians told Ian Rapoport of NFL Network that he would consider the Buccaneers job. Arians said he thinks highly of Buccaneers General Manager Jason Licht and would like to work with him.

“I know Jason Licht. So, I would listen,” Arians said.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/31/falcons-fire-all-three-coordinators/

Falcons head coach Dan Quinn isn’t losing his job on Black Monday, but his top assistants are.

All three of the Falcons’ top assistants — offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, defensive coordinator Marquand Manuel and special teams coach Keith Armstrong — are on the way out, according to multiple reports. Quinn is expected to take over defensive coordinator duties himself and hire a new offensive and special teams coordinator
 

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Great, not only are the raiders unwatchable, but now my NFL draft coverage got worse. Screw you Mark Davis.
 

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It's the nature of the beast and I think how I felt through the years of the Rams making Coaching Changes:

1978....Tough for me only being 12 and was hoping the Rams hired Bill Walsh who was rumored as being Carroll Rosenbloom's "Under the Radar hire", but the Rams tried to go back to the future before it was Vogue and tapped George Allen, who lasted two preseason games before Rosenbloom saw the err's of his ways and replaced him with Ray Malavasi. So the Rams fired Chuck Knox and instead of Walsh or Allen now had Ray...I was not happy and always held it against Malavasi.

1983....Owner Georgia Frontiere shocked everyone going rogue and hiring USC's Head Coach John Robinson to be the Los Angeles Rams next field boss. Frontiere had just hired former University of Hawaii Athletic Director Ray Nagel as her new "Director of Football Operations." But did not allow him to interview anyone as he had interviews set up with Arizona State Head Coach Darryl Rogers....Georgia made the announcement on Valentines Day...Replacing Ray Malavasi who was fired by leaving a message. Happy with Robinson, felt they were classless on Malavasi.

1992....After a pretty good run by Robinson, it was time for a change and I was hoping for Mike Holmgren, who John Shaw had recommended to Madam Georgia, but she overruled him by saying that Carroll (Rosenbloom) always regretted letting Chuck Knox go and Georgia brought Knox back to Los Angeles as not only Head Coach, but also "President of Football Operations." I preferred Holmgren and felt the best the Rams could hope for was 9-7 under Knox, which never happened.

1995...After saying Good Bye to Chuck Knox and hello to the Gateway City, John Shaw actually hires a General Manager in Steve Ortmayer the former Raider and Charger boss. Shaw focusing on the move empowers Ortmayer to hire the next Head Coach. Rams lose out on Ray Rhodes and interview the likes of Ernie Zampese and a cast of castoffs including CFL Head Coach Don Matthews. Hoping for Gene Stallings of Alabama, who was beloved in St. Louis, the Rams go after Oregon Duck Coach Richie Brooks, who finally had one decent year in Eugene. Did not like the hire at all and Brooks coaching staff was even worse.

1997....John Shaw reclaims the perch and fires Ortmayer and Papa Smurf Brooks and finally does something right in his 30 years and hires Richard Albert "Dick" Vermeil and the next Head Coach of the St. Louis Rams and the stars align and the grace of God finally smiles down on the Ram organization and I was obviously ecstatic.

2000...Vermeil shocks everyone and decides to retire and the Rams name their Head Coach in waiting Mike Martz as the next Head Coach. Again I'm stoked as I believe Mike Martz will be to the St. Louis Rams, what Joe Gibbs was to the Washington Redskins... Just wish there was never a Larry Marmie.

2006....A dark day in St. Louis as the Rams move on from Mike Martz and passing on Ron Rivera, the Rams hire a surprise candidate in Viking Offensive Coordinator Scott Linehan. Linehan stammers and stutters through his first press conference and becomes know as Milquetoast Linehan as he can't command a locker room or motivate a Marine at a brothel. He is replaced by Jim Haslett after four games in 2008.

2009...Many of us are extremely upset as Jason Garrett is brought to the Gateway City for a tour of the facility, many scoff at the notion of a Red Headed Stepchild being the next Ram Head Coach and are relived when new GM Bill Devaney gets his way and hires New York Giants Defensive Coordinator Steve "Napoleon" Spagnuolo as the next Rams Head Coach...Spags then hires two Coordinators in Pat Shurmur (Offensive) and Ken Flajole (Defensive) who have never been Coordinators before. Spagnuolo proves to be more paranoid than Mike Martz and Martz actually won football games.

2012...There is joy in Mudville when the St. Louis Rams and Owner Stan Kroenke win a bidding war against the Miami Dolphins and owner Stephen Ross for the former Head Coach of the Tennessee Titans Jeffrey Michael Fisher. The Rams now have a proven Head Coach after hiring first time Head Coaches in Linehan and Spagnuolo....Fisher does quite a bit to restore the history at Rams park and infuse some talent before coming to his demise for not being able to hire an innovative offensive coordinator.
Thoroughly enjoyed the reminiscing Den.
Fun read.
 

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I think Mayock will make a big difference with the Raiders. That's as long as he and Gruden get along. The guy knows the college players.He has lots of contacts all around the country. He loves evaluating players.


Here are some funny reactions to the hiring.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/12/oakland-raiders-mike-mayock-gm-hire-jon-gruden-twitter-reaction

With him being a GM of an actual team, Mayocks long lists of sources will dry up instantly. Then we’ll see how much he really blinked. I can’t stand the guy.




This just seems like jumping the gun to me. Ditto with LaFluer. Let them coach under a good coach for a few years and learn. The NFL is clearly desperate for good coaches.
 

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This just seems like jumping the gun to me. Ditto with LaFluer. Let them coach under a good coach for a few years and learn. The NFL is clearly desperate for good coaches.

Definitely jumping the gun and it's funny that they're even interviewing him for the HC position. Just like with LaFleur and also Olson, what you see with our offensive mind being locked up in the head coach spot is an unpoachable staff. Sure, take our QB coach, whatevs. IMO we didn't miss LaFleur, and Olson's loss was bigger (he was huge on protection reads which Goff could have used another year of). Right now the guy I don't want anyone poaching is our OL coach, but either way we're in very good spot in terms of teams not being able to pick us apart.
 

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This just seems like jumping the gun to me. Ditto with LaFluer. Let them coach under a good coach for a few years and learn. The NFL is clearly desperate for good coaches.

My son is on the phone with Steve Keim
He just turned 15
He has watched a few games with me this year
He’s about as tall as McVay
He’s sort of offensive at times
Make it happen
 

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Like Taylor as much as anybody but I have a hard time believing he’s ready.
 

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If I'm Gase I have already called McVay and told him I'd like to join his staff as whatever creative title he wants to give me. Would be an assistant OC in a heartbeat for the Rams, because this coaching staff is a springboard for jobs.