Antonio Brown saga

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Dieter the Brock

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Hey, I'm not knocking people like Twain and Dizzy; hell, I never went to college, and I didn't get the best grades in high school. But for people like Antonio Brown, who did go to college and did have good high school grades (otherwise, he would've failed to get into CMU), there's no excuse for not learning the basics in English.

English is malleable. It’s meant to be used and abused.

Just travel across the country and you’ll hear all sorts of different dialects, inflections, colloquialisms, etc., just cause you don’t understand what is being said in their regional or personal version of English doesn’t mean it fails to communicate to someone.

That also holds true with the written word. Most of what Antonio Brown (or should i use his brand name AB?) did with his words was about style. The run-on sentence is actually there to piss you off, so he succeeded there, number one. But take a look at the exchange with Eric Weddle (Weedle) it’s full of sarcasm and colloquialisms. Same for Weddle’s responses - contracting words in leet-esque speak. Plus - it’s fucking Twitter. Nobody cares about grammar on Twitter — but it does communicate and we all get the point. And that is what matters. The point is it is those exchanges are all style and personality.

I write for a living and nobody has ever had a problem with my punctuation mistakes - in fact they just send it to a copy editor or edit themselves cause that’s their job, not mine.

As an author you need to read more Faulkner and EE Cummings - break the rules and do it for show — just like AB, THE BRAND

Check out this famous Run-On:

It was all very well to say ‘Drink me,’ but the wise little Alice was not going to that in a hurry. ‘No, I’ll look first,’ she said, ‘and see whether it’s marked “poison” or not’; for she had read several nice little histories about children who had got burnt, and eaten up by wild beasts and other unpleasant things, all because they would not remember the simple rules their friends had taught them: such as, that a red-hot poker will burn you if you hold it too long; and that if you cut your finger very deeply with a knife, it usually bleeds; and she had never forgotten that, if you drink much from a bottle marked ‘poison,’ it is almost certain to disagree with you, sooner or later.”

Lewis Carroll, “Alice in Wonderland”
 

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English is malleable. It’s meant to be used and abused.

Just travel across the country and you’ll hear all sorts of different dialects, inflections, colloquialisms, etc., just cause you don’t understand what is being said in their regional or personal version of English doesn’t mean it fails to communicate to someone.

That also holds true with the written word. Most of what Antonio Brown (or should i use his brand name AB?) did with his words was about style. The run-on sentence is actually there to piss you off, so he succeeded there, number one. But take a look at the exchange with Eric Weddle (Weedle) it’s full of sarcasm and colloquialisms. Same for Weddle’s responses - contracting words in leet-esque speak. Plus - it’s fucking Twitter. Nobody cares about grammar on Twitter — but it does communicate and we all get the point. And that is what matters. The point is it is those exchanges are all style and personality.

I write for a living and nobody has ever had a problem with my punctuation mistakes - in fact they just send it to a copy editor or edit themselves cause that’s their job, not mine.

As an author you need to read more Faulkner and EE Cummings - break the rules and do it for show — just like AB, THE BRAND

Check out this famous Run-On:

It was all very well to say ‘Drink me,’ but the wise little Alice was not going to that in a hurry. ‘No, I’ll look first,’ she said, ‘and see whether it’s marked “poison” or not’; for she had read several nice little histories about children who had got burnt, and eaten up by wild beasts and other unpleasant things, all because they would not remember the simple rules their friends had taught them: such as, that a red-hot poker will burn you if you hold it too long; and that if you cut your finger very deeply with a knife, it usually bleeds; and she had never forgotten that, if you drink much from a bottle marked ‘poison,’ it is almost certain to disagree with you, sooner or later.”

Lewis Carroll, “Alice in Wonderland”

Nah he's a mental midget with a ghetto Twitter attitude.

He's fucked himself over and out of millions.

And LC knew how to turn phrase. AB can barely be understood.
 

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Hey, I'm not knocking people like Twain and Dizzy; hell, I never went to college, and I didn't get the best grades in high school. But for people like Antonio Brown, who did go to college and did have good high school grades (otherwise, he would've failed to get into CMU), there's no excuse for not learning the basics in English.
I suppose I'm saying to be as much of yourself as you can. Or can get away with.
 

Dieter the Brock

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Nah he's a mental midget with a ghetto Twitter attitude.

He's fucked himself over and out of millions.

And LC knew how to turn phrase. AB can barely be understood.

I wish I was a mental midget with a ghetto attitude and fucking myself out if millions

You just made me an Antonio Brown fan

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Dieter the Brock

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That net worth is gonna crash and burn if he's dumb enough to continue self-destructing

I was being sardonic.
I mean Antonio Brown has 25 million lurking around his portfolio. I’m just speculating losing out on a future contracts my not be as much of an issue to a guy who has 25 million in the bank. He will eventually have enough money to get a nice PR team together and get a good campaign going and get back into the league next year....or the following.

First off I was only commenting on Memento’s dislike for run-ons relating to the twitter post.

I thought the response by Les to my post was lame. In relation to that I was only trying to show the futility of going after some dude’s back account when it comes to someone’s character.

And who’s to say he’ll blow the money? The dude is probably making decent investments. He can certainly afford good financial advisors with 25 mil. I mean people from the ghetto know that. It’s not always their cousin rodney handling the cash yo.....,

Anyway...

All I was trying to do was say the dude has his own style when it comes to writing the English language

* and just to be 100% clear I am not a fan of the AB Brand at all
 

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I was being sardonic.
I mean Antonio Brown has 25 million lurking around his portfolio. I’m just speculating losing out on a future contracts my not be as much of an issue to a guy who has 25 million in the bank. He will eventually have enough money to get a nice PR team together and get a good campaign going and get back into the league next year....or the following.

First off I was only commenting on Memento’s dislike for run-ons relating to the twitter post.

I thought the response by Les to my post was lame. In relation to that I was only trying to show the futility of going after some dude’s back account when it comes to someone’s character.

And who’s to say he’ll blow the money? The dude is probably making decent investments. He can certainly afford good financial advisors with 25 mil. I mean people from the ghetto know that. It’s not always their cousin rodney handling the cash yo.....,

Anyway...

All I was trying to do was say the dude has his own style when it comes to writing the English language

* and just to be 100% clear I am not a fan of the AB Brand at all

It's unlikely he's going to play in the NFL again.

He fucked it up.

Good for him though. It seems to be what he wanted hahaha.

People like this deserve NO sympathy.
 

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Hey, I'm not knocking people like Twain and Dizzy; hell, I never went to college, and I didn't get the best grades in high school. But for people like Antonio Brown, who did go to college and did have good high school grades (otherwise, he would've failed to get into CMU), there's no excuse for not learning the basics in English.


I couldnt care less about his articulation or education (notice i said "couldnt" care less, haha) all i see is what he is comunicating through his words and actions, and by that he has clearly shown he is an asshole...plain and simple.
 

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. . .But for people like Antonio Brown, who did go to college and did have good high school grades (otherwise, he would've failed to get into CMU), there's no excuse for not learning the basics in English.

This.

The dude got a college education. He should know the most basic rules of punctuation.
 

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This.

The dude got a college education. He should know the most basic rules of punctuation.
You're assuming an academic education because of a rolled up piece of paper? His real major was Football.
 

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I couldnt care less about his articulation or education (notice i said "couldnt" care less, haha)

OK, you didn't use the apostrophe. I don't care. But at least you said 'couldn't', which is more accurate than 'could care less.' An old gf tried to argue with me that 'could care less' is literally wrong and only makes the speaker look stupid.

I then said I could care less. . . :p

Then explained the sarcastic intent of the phrase.

And before you all tell me to stop pontificating, I majored in linguistics and teach this shit. But I don't get many opportunities to flaunt my linguistic peacock feathers, so I could care less if you all could care less :p
 

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OK, you didn't use the apostrophe. I don't care. But at least you said 'couldn't', which is more accurate than 'could care less.' An old gf tried to argue with me that 'could care less' is literally wrong and only makes the speaker look stupid.

I then said I could care less. . . :p

Then explained the sarcastic intent of the phrase.

And before you all tell me to stop pontificating, I majored in linguistics and teach this shit. But I don't get many opportunities to flaunt my linguistic peacock feathers, so I could care less if you all could care less :p
I bet you diagram sentences.
 

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I bet you diagram sentences.
:D Actually no. The dork isn't that strong with me. I hated that shit. I studied the aspects of pronunciation: phonetics, stress and rhythm, also my favorite stuff to teach
 

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English is malleable. It’s meant to be used and abused.

Just travel across the country and you’ll hear all sorts of different dialects, inflections, colloquialisms, etc., just cause you don’t understand what is being said in their regional or personal version of English doesn’t mean it fails to communicate to someone.

That also holds true with the written word. Most of what Antonio Brown (or should i use his brand name AB?) did with his words was about style. The run-on sentence is actually there to piss you off, so he succeeded there, number one. But take a look at the exchange with Eric Weddle (Weedle) it’s full of sarcasm and colloquialisms. Same for Weddle’s responses - contracting words in leet-esque speak. Plus - it’s fucking Twitter. Nobody cares about grammar on Twitter — but it does communicate and we all get the point. And that is what matters. The point is it is those exchanges are all style and personality.

I write for a living and nobody has ever had a problem with my punctuation mistakes - in fact they just send it to a copy editor or edit themselves cause that’s their job, not mine.

As an author you need to read more Faulkner and EE Cummings - break the rules and do it for show — just like AB, THE BRAND

Check out this famous Run-On:

It was all very well to say ‘Drink me,’ but the wise little Alice was not going to that in a hurry. ‘No, I’ll look first,’ she said, ‘and see whether it’s marked “poison” or not’; for she had read several nice little histories about children who had got burnt, and eaten up by wild beasts and other unpleasant things, all because they would not remember the simple rules their friends had taught them: such as, that a red-hot poker will burn you if you hold it too long; and that if you cut your finger very deeply with a knife, it usually bleeds; and she had never forgotten that, if you drink much from a bottle marked ‘poison,’ it is almost certain to disagree with you, sooner or later.”

Lewis Carroll, “Alice in Wonderland”

I do, in fact, break the rules when it comes to telling a story with various characters and various places. But that's all it is: storytelling. Call me a stuck-up bitch for this, if you wish, but damn near everything that Brown said feels like he's trying his hardest to coin his own language. Nobody understands what he's saying. Even Weddle - whose contractions also kill me as a writer - had no idea what Brown was saying.

And as an authoress, I have my own style, and I'll gladly stick to it, unless I'm corrected - in which case, I'll do my best to fix it. Kurt Vonnegut was known for his utter hatred of the semicolon, and he never used it once in his writings. Lewis Carroll had his own style that isn't like mine. In this certain run-on sentence, he's using Alice's POV from her own mind - and Alice isn't very sane at all.

None of those stylistic choices are wrong, much like most forms of writing aren't wrong, unless there's something fundamentally wrong with the plot or characters - which is its own topic altogether.

But I digress. It kills me that Antonio Brown - who has a college education - apparently doesn't know or care about the basics on grammar. Using a full stop isn't very hard; it's something they teach in elementary, and unless one has a learning disability in English, there really isn't an excuse.
 

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LOL at Bob Kraft ...

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Patriots failed in their contract with Antonio Brown and Bob Kraft will end up paying him $9M more

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Charles Robinson,Yahoo Sports 1 hour 22 minutes ago

A little over two weeks ago, the New England Patriots inexplicably dug themselves a financial hole by agreeing to give Antonio Brown a $9 million signing bonus. Now team owner Robert Kraft must pay his way out of it.

That’s the consensus of five league sources who spoke to Yahoo Sports this week — each familiar with Brown’s now-voided Patriots deal and all having extensive experience with the overlap between NFL contracts and the league’s collective-bargaining agreement. The group universally expressed the belief that New England’s payout to Brown will likely happen deep into the 2020 calendar, after an exhaustive arbitration grievance that could ultimately reveal what Brown and his agents knew about a threatened sexual assault civil lawsuit prior to signing with the Patriots.

One key takeaway was heavily underscored by the group: The Patriots cut Brown before he triggered any signing bonus void as described in the CBA. And that will end up being the foundational and winning point of a forthcoming grievance from Brown and the NFL Players Association.As one source put it, “[New England] fighting to keep that signing bonus now is either a gross misunderstanding of [the CBA’s] rules on voiding signing bonuses or it’s just out of spite. I can’t believe they don’t understand the signing bonus voids in the CBA. There’s just no way. This is just spitefulness. They’re fighting [Brown] completely out of the anger and embarrassment in ownership.”

Sep 15, 2019; Miami Gardens, FL, USA; New England Patriots wide receiver Antonio Brown (17) celebrates in the fourth quarter against the Miami Dolphins at Hard Rock Stadium. The Patriots defeated the Dolphins 43-0. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports


Antonio Brown's appearance for the Patriots against the Dolphins might prove beneficial for him in a grievance against New England. (USA TODAY Sports)

Why Patriots will be forced to pay Brown’s signing bonus
Where it concerns Brown’s $9 million signing bonus, the fight appears to be heading to an argument of one clause in the CBA. Specifically, Article 4 and section 9, which lays the foundation of the forfeitable breach of money within a contract. It states:
(a) Forfeitable Breach. Any player who (i) willfully fails to report, practice or play with the result that the player’s ability to fully participate and contribute to the team is substantially undermined (for example, without limitation, holding out or leaving the squad absent a showing of extreme personal hardship); or (ii) is unavailable to the team due to conduct by him that results in his incarceration; or (iii) is unavailable to the team due to a nonfootball injury that resulted from a material breach of Paragraph 3 of his NFL Player Contract; or (iv) voluntarily retires ...
In layman’s terms, the CBA language is stating that Brown could have forfeited his signing bonus if he did one of four things:
  • Refused to report, practice or play and thus inhibited his ability to help the team.
  • Became unavailable due to behavior that resulted in his incarceration.
  • Became unavailable due to what his player contract designated as a non-football injury.
  • Voluntarily retired.
The problem for the Patriots is Brown didn’t fit under any of those qualifiers prior to his release, which in the eyes of the union (and the other league sources familiar with his deal) equates to the Patriots still being on the hook for his signing bonus. Therein lies the only kicker that matters: Regardless of what the Patriots put into their contract with Brown when it comes to voiding his signing bonus, arbitrators have consistently ruled that CBA language supersedes team language when it comes to player contracts. And the CBA says Brown had to have fallen into one of the four aforementioned categories to lose his signing bonus. No matter what the Patriots inserted into their deal with Brown, the CBA’s four designations were all that would matter when it came to the signing bonus.

Interestingly, sources who spoke with Yahoo say New England had one arguable contract “out” when it came to Brown and surrendered it: that he and his representation didn’t make the team aware of his civil suit. Essentially, the Patriots could have used that withholding of information as a means to void his entire deal. But New England negated any claim to that by playing Brown against the Miami Dolphins after the lawsuit was filed in federal court.

“If they had cut [Brown] as soon as they became aware of the civil suit, then there’s the argument of the [withholding] breach undermining the entire agreement,” one source told Yahoo Sports. “But they kept him on the roster after that lawsuit was filed. They played him in a game. They even paid him checks for [two weeks of] work. If the civil suit was a true dealbreaker, the Patriots could have shown it by breaking the deal. Their actions speak to their intent and their intent was shown when they continued to pay him after the civil suit.”
Another source pinned the onus on the Patriots for not doing a deal containing weekly protections.
“They did the contract structure, knowing how difficult [the CBA] makes it to withhold or claw back a signing bonus,” the source said. “If they wanted more protection, that was their option when they negotiated the deal. They could have protected themselves by making the deal a series of per-game 53-man roster bonuses. The signing bonus route is an instantly recognized chunk of earned money as soon as he signs. It’s the most player-friendly route you can take.”

The Patriots did a bad contract with Brown
Did New England do a bad deal in the team’s rush to get Brown under contract? And if it was willing to give Brown so much money in a signing bonus that would be difficult to negate, did it do enough background work to warrant such confidence?
To the former, yes, it’s clear now that New England did a bad contract structure given what has transpired and the lack of protection that now exists. Whether or not the Patriots did enough homework is a matter of argument, although the team didn’t do enough to protect itself from the possibility that Brown and his agents might not be telling the team everything it needed to know.

Why either of those things materialized — a poor contract structure and a lack of knowledge about Brown’s problems — will remain a matter of argument. Some of it likely has to do with Brown’s talent making him a pursued commodity from the moment he was released by the Oakland Raiders. It’s very possible the Patriots moved too fast and offered too friendly a contract out of fear of losing Brown.

Said one prominent agent who has negotiated multiple deals with New England: “They’re so ultra-competitive they were afraid they were going to lose out to another team if they didn’t give them that structure. And they figured they could control the kid — which they probably could. What they didn’t see coming was that other [stuff] and that’s what drove [them] crazy.”
A few months from now, it’s also what will cost the Patriots because there’s no denying that part of this mess: New England dug a hole when it failed to properly protect itself. Now it’s going to have to pay that $9 million signing bonus as it climbs out. Whether Bob Kraft likes it or not.