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[badnews]

I can assure you that I am not a troll or here to talk badly about you folks. I mean absolutely no harm.

I signed up here back in 2016 and the name came to me from a specific album I was really into at the time by Retro Wave artist Trevor Something. 'Synthetic Love'. If you like synths and 80's style music, you might like it.


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I play guitar, bass and synths in my off time as a hobby. Apart from football, I could probably talk music with you folks for fun.

Thats sweet man, I play too, a little.
Recently picked up an old Korg M1. Its my fjrst synth/keyboard.
Hope you stick around.

 

[Karate61]

Thanks. I meant to post on here back in 2016 but that was a pretty busy summer for me.

I was pretty happy to see the Rams move back to L.A. I remember the old divisional rivalry games we used to have back when the Saints and Falcons were in the NFC West. There's a number of classic divisional games between our two teams back in the day. We shared a common enemy back in the day being the 49ers whom I still hate with a passion to this day.

You guys also gave us Jim Everett - the best Saints quarterback of my youth. I must also say Everett was a class act in NOLA and we fans who were there back in those days generally appreciated him. I had friends who sent the team fan mail and Jim mailed them back some autographed cards. Really sweet guy.

I was a season ticket holder all years in Anaheim thanks to my dad. I used to love your running back, George Rogers. He had such a cool and powerful running style.

 

[ramdonnie]

I'm a life long Saints fan and I signed up to this forum a few years ago with hopes of being able to chat with you all about the L.A. move, but the timing was bad for me during the summer of that year. I forgot about it over time cause I had been a member of SaintsReport going back to 2011 and that was my main home for a while between a different team's forum where I used to hang out and now, I have no home since I'm banned from SaintsReport and that old NFL forum I used to chat on has long been lost. I only just now realized I had an account here when trying to sign up. I wanted to come on here and congratulate all of you. I'm not here to troll you or post conspiracy theories.

Let me be one of the few Saints fans who congratulates you on your win. I was banned from SaintsReport and I'm guessing I was banned along with the handful of other members who were trying to have a rational discussion about the game without going full conspiracy mode with the crazy ass nonsense about it all being rigged against them. Our fan base is easily the most conspiracy minded fans of all NFL fan bases, they've been like this since 2012 when Bountygate happened. I tell fans of other teams any time it's brought up; Bountygate broke their collective minds and they never recovered their rationale. Any time they lose a close game, it's always the refs fault. They are unable to handle a loss without going complete Alex Jones about it. Before this week, they completely lost their minds over the Cowboys loss and were blaming the refs, Goodell, Jerry Jones and even had a bizarre Spygate style conspiracy theory about it. Go through any topic about Dallas on their forum and count how many posts bring up "the refs" and "Jerry's paid refs" and you see what I mean. They couldn't even give Dallas credit for thoroughly humiliating us, no it was all a big conspiracy in some way or another.

The Saints didn't loss on a bad non-call, let me be one of the few who will admit this. Since I'm banned from my previous home for saying these exact words, I might as well tell you all this too - something went really wrong for the Saints beginning with the Dallas game. To put it simple; Dallas whooped us. Not only did they beat the living hell out of us, but they completely exposed this team and their over-reliance on the only two weapons they had on offense - Michael Thomas and Kamara. Essentially, Dallas proved to the rest of the NFL that if you could limit or entirely shut down Kamara and Thomas, then the Saints had nothing else to scare you with on offense. Teams have been taking their only two play makers away and forcing Brees to pick them apart with a cast of no-name receivers that no one knows.

Brees had a TD/INT ratio of 29-2 and a QB rating over 130 prior to week 11. In the last 6 games, his QB rating tanked down to 88 and his TD/INT ratio was a horrible 7-5. Like I said; something has been wrong with this team for over a month. They were never the same after that Dallas game. Since that loss, the Saints sorta became the opposite of the team they were early in the season; the defense began stepping up and was bailing them out for several weeks. Go watch highlights of the Tampa Bay, Carolina, Pittsburgh and Philly games; the offense struggled in all those games and had to be bailed out by strong defensive play. In reality, the defense really was pulling miracles with late stops and key turnovers, meanwhile the offense would piddle around and couldn't do nothing.

The Rams seemed to do the opposite at the end of the year after their offensive struggles. They got it together and changed some things on their offense that helped them recapture their magic they had. The Saints didn't do this at all and I wish fans would speak out about Payton's inability to do this. His play calling was questionable and deserved criticism in both playoff games. He nearly blew it for us against the Eagles; a game where the defense dominated for 3 quarters, then the offense just piddled around unable to shut the door on them, thus giving Philly one last shot for a miracle. We got bailed out by our defense yet again.

We got out-played and out-coached Sunday against your team. I will just admit it. We've seen teams in the past blow leads in the NFCCG and they never win it. The loss reminded me a bit of the Packers 2014 NFCCG meltdown where they blew a 16 point lead and then had a 12 point lead late in the game and blew that too. We had a 13 point lead and then a 10 point lead, lost both of them. The game would've never come down to that non-call had the offense not struggled and played as bad as they had for the past month and a half. I honest to god knew the game was over when it got tied at 20. I knew the Saints were about to screw it up.

Even after the no call pass interference, we had the ball in OT and threw a pick. That pick reminded me a lot of Brett Favre's bad interception in the 2007 NFCCG. It was easily Brees' worst pass of the season. Brees did not play well Sunday and it felt like the longer the game progressed, he was going to eventually have a turnover. We've seen those kind of games for him from time to time and he's had a few of them this year (Dallas and Carolina come to mind) and other great QBs are prone to stuff like this.

Anyways, sorry for the long post. I am venting a little because it was quite hurtful being banned from a site and community that I had been a part of for all those years, simply because I didn't want to buy the popular opinion that this is all a major conspiracy theory. Before I was banned, it was even implied that I worked for the NFL and was being paid shill money by Roger Goodell to come on there and voice my opinion that disagreed with them. THAT is how far lost our fan base is. They are lost to the point that any other Saints fan who disagrees with them must be paid by George Soros, oops, I mean Roger Goodell, regardless how much evidence there is of years worth of posts to debunk such nonsense. Goodell is their big boogie man and they think he controls everything in the universe solely to make their lives miserable. I don't blame anyone for laughing at our fan base and we don't deserve sympathy either. This is an embarrassment with how the fans are acting but I'm not surprised. Like I said, Bountygate broke whatever rationality they previously had. We've been the insane asylum fan base of the league ever since and now we are completely in Alex Jones territory with all these inane conspiracies about this game. That bad non-call would've been a footnote to that game had the offense got it together in OT.

Congrats on your win. I seen nothing in the Saints 2 playoff games that would convince me that we would have a shot against the Patriots. Maybe your team will match up better with them. Good luck in 2 weeks.

Sorry to hear you got booted out of the Saints' board. It's never too late to become a Rams' fan! We always welcome new Rams' fans to the community.

I was just looking at the Saints' record, and they lost to the 5-11 Buccs, 7-9 Panthers and 10-6 Cowboys. Then, in the first matchup with the Rams, they got a call that changed the outcome of that game. We were about to go up 21-14 if not for that bad call. Then again, they got a huge call against the Stealers to help them win that one. Yet again, they got a lucky interception in the Eagles game to win that one.

The Saints were in a weak division this year and lost 2 of those games. The Saints were not very good this year. The Rams went 6-0 in their division.

If they are allowed to change the no-call, then the league should change the Hecker call and we probably win that game. Steelers could appeal the PI and Saints end up 11-5 on the year. They also played the 5-11 Giants, 7-8-1 Browns, 7-9 Redskins and 5-11 Bengals. It looks like their 16-game schedule was very easy - not many opponents had a winning record, maybe one or two from my first glance.

I hope the media can make a turn and give the Rams the credit they deserve. We had a great year, and this is a special team with countless weapons. I don't see the Pats shutting us down because if they stop one guy, another will step up. Our offense is loaded with talented players who can actually catch the ball (what a nice change), and our defense has improved a lot since we've been game-planning better in the playoffs. It seems we are playing our best football at the perfect time.

Go Rams and again, sorry to hear you were treated that way. I know it might not even be possible to like another team, but if you stick around, maybe the Rams will grow on you. Good luck with your music!

 

[kurtfaulk]

I don't blame anyone for laughing at our fan base and we don't deserve sympathy either. This is an embarrassment with how the fans are acting but I'm not surprised

can you blame the fans after the way the players, the hc and even the owner acted in the days after the game.

us rams fans went through a similar situation after superbowl 36. except i couldn't understand why anybody on the team didn't start complaining to the media. after watching everyone in the saints organisation crying to whoever would listen i fully comprehend why the rams kept quiet about their concerns of how superbowl 36 was officiated and how the cheats were in better position on the rams routes than the rams wrs. nobody likes a sore loser and it is embarrassing for the team the way everyone has acted.

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[kurtfaulk]

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[Ram_Rally]

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He's motioning to Asshole Face .I know this because even the saints fans said this when it was posted on Reddit lol

 

[ozarkram]

Its enough all ready. Sometimes you eat the bear, sometimes the bear eats you. Time to move on and bring the Trophy home.

 

[Ewe83]

Welcome! I'm glad to see there are Saints fans that can think logically about the whole thing. We can sympathize with a loss and calls not going our way, it sucks. I just can't believe the level the fans and city are taking it to, yeah we're all passionate about our teams but it's just a game, it's just entertainment

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I thought Brees was retiring this year. I heard recently that he still wants to play.

 

[BigRamFan]

View: https://twitter.com/slopinggiraffe/status/1087442459330793474?s=21

Awesome video, but we all know that none of those plays had any effect on the outcome

 

[den-the-coach]

I just can't believe the level the fans and city are taking it to, yeah we're all passionate about our teams but it's just a game, it's just entertainment

It's what they have left, they are not going to rally around the Pelicans and the politicians love to show how they connect with the people, even in the most corrupt political State in the U.S. in Louisiana.

Asshole Face is on the competition committee, so this will get a ton of play, remember Viking Coach Denny Green doing away with group celebrations in the end zone because of his loss to the Rams in a playoff game. Really no reason to be mad at the Rams, but that's the way it goes and as Ram fans let's hope the Rams take it to the Patriots and win it and then the Saint fans will be talking about how they should be the Champions.

 

[Packfan18]

Is it true the NFL might make the two teams replay the last 2 minutes? That's what a couple coworkers of mine had said. I hope not.

 

[tklongball]

Welcome @Synthetic - Come talk football anytime.

 

[Ewe83]

It's what they have left, they are not going to rally around the Pelicans and the politicians love to show how they connect with the people, even in the most corrupt political State in the U.S. in Louisiana.

Asshole Face is on the competition committee, so this will get a ton of play, remember Viking Coach Denny Green doing away with group celebrations in the end zone because of his loss to the Rams in a playoff game. Really no reason to be mad at the Rams, but that's the way it goes and as Ram fans let's hope the Rams take it to the Patriots and win it and then the Saint fans will be talking about how they should be the Champions.

Yeah that was really pathetic, oh no my feelings are hurt by your celebration *eye roll* Also how the heck is trash bag Payton on any committee, after Bounty Gate that should not be allowed

 

[Synthetic]

Thats sweet man, I play too, a little.
Recently picked up an old Korg M1. Its my fjrst synth/keyboard.
Hope you stick around.

Cool stuff. Korg makes great work stations, right up there with Casio. I've been meaning to get a new one, but I just haven't had the money to do it. At least with guitars when they need work, it's easier to unscrew something and do a bit of maintenance or adjustments on the bridge and truss rod when it needs a new setup. I had a Roland work station that was really good to me over the years but eventually got worn out from traveling back and forth.

I was a season ticket holder all years in Anaheim thanks to my dad. I used to love your running back, George Rogers. He had such a cool and powerful running style.

Thanks. I only briefly remember Rogers because I was so young back then. He was around when Kenny Stabler was the QB and a brief stint with Earl Campbell during the Bum Phillips years.

The Saints golden years back in my youth were when Jim Mora was head coach with the Dome Patrol linebacking core. Many fans still look back fondly at those years, cause we felt that it was something special despite never winning a playoff game. I really wish they had won a few of those playoff games, cause then maybe Sam Mills would have a real shot at making the Hall of Fame. He was probably my favorite player back in the day.

Maybe that is why this playoff loss don't hurt as bad. We have a ring now, so it lessens a lot of the pain compared to those losses in the Mora years where it was utterly devastating.

 

[shovelpass]

Is it true the NFL might make the two teams replay the last 2 minutes? That's what a couple coworkers of mine had said. I hope not.

No, some journalists and media types brought it up to get "clicks" but nothing from the actual NFL has mentioned anything of it. There is a rule regarding restarting a game but I don't think that what happened truly fits the language in the rule. I also heard that it would've had to be restarted immediately, if not it causes a lot of logistical problems.

 

[Prime Time]

Hey @Synthetic you are most welcome here. Stick around and talk NFL stuff with us. You have a home here.

I play guitar, bass and synths in my off time as a hobby. Apart from football, I could probably talk music with you folks for fun.

There you go. I use FL Studio 20, Nexus 2, EZ Drummer 2, a Korg M1 plugin, and a long list of other software. I have a 62 Gibson 12-string, a Les Paul copy, a crappy Chinese bass, and an old Yamaha synth. I'm an old guy so I tend to listen to, write and record mostly in the genres of classic rock, and prog rock. Music brings us all together no matter what team we root for or at least it should.

 

[Synthetic]

can you blame the fans after the way the players, the hc and even the owner acted in the days after the game.

us rams fans went through a similar situation after superbowl 36. except i couldn't understand why anybody on the team didn't start complaining to the media. after watching everyone in the saints organisation crying to whoever would listen i fully comprehend why the rams kept quiet about their concerns of how superbowl 36 was officiated and how the cheats were in better position on the rams routes than the rams wrs. nobody likes a sore loser and it is embarrassing for the team the way everyone has acted.

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First off, love your avatar. Grew up on Bowie, I was listening to Low and Scary Monsters earlier this week.

I don't live in the NOLA area anymore but when I did, the local media is nothing like what you get in other areas of the gulf coast. It wasn't always like this, but in the last decade the local media absolutely refuses to criticize or question the team and Payton's ordeal. This is for better and worse depending on how the team is doing (other media in the gulf coast are not so reluctant to make criticisms towards the team when the chips are down).

One of the best things about the internet is that you can get an objective opinion and a real discussion. Can't get that on local radios when everyone is too afraid to criticize the team.

Yeah, it's definitely embarrassing how everyone has reacted to this. In Super Bowl 36, you guys got beat. Football is unpredictable and anything can happen. I personally never bought into Spygate or that the Patriots cheated. I felt and still feel to this day; Martz got out-coached. Last time I re-watched that SB, I had no idea why he didn't just pound the ball with Faulk in the first half when the Pats kept opening up in a nickel just begging them to run it. It reminded me of the 1990 Bills and how they refused to run the ball against Belichick's defense even though he was letting them run it and Thurman Thomas was averaging around 9 yards a carry, but they kept passing.

I've watched the Saints lose a number of games like that where Payton refused to run the ball. Bill Parcells even joked in Dallas that Payton gets "the virus" with play calling. To be absolutely fair, Payton almost cost us the Eagles playoff game with some WTF play calling.

Stuff happens. That's just how it goes with sports, you win some and lose some.

 

[Ewe83]

To be fair the players from that 36 Rams team themselves have come out and said they had brand new plays never done before cooked up for that Superbowl and the Pats D knew the plays and were calling them out when they saw the formations, no way they could know that unless spygate was real, which is was.

However Martz could have made adjustments in that game and while unfair it's also not the only reason we lost, sucks but life moves on

 

[Synthetic]

Sorry to hear you got booted out of the Saints' board. It's never too late to become a Rams' fan! We always welcome new Rams' fans to the community.

I was just looking at the Saints' record, and they lost to the 5-11 Buccs, 7-9 Panthers and 10-6 Cowboys. Then, in the first matchup with the Rams, they got a call that changed the outcome of that game. We were about to go up 21-14 if not for that bad call. Then again, they got a huge call against the Stealers to help them win that one. Yet again, they got a lucky interception in the Eagles game to win that one.

The Saints were in a weak division this year and lost 2 of those games. The Saints were not very good this year. The Rams went 6-0 in their division.

If they are allowed to change the no-call, then the league should change the Hecker call and we probably win that game. Steelers could appeal the PI and Saints end up 11-5 on the year. They also played the 5-11 Giants, 7-8-1 Browns, 7-9 Redskins and 5-11 Bengals. It looks like their 16-game schedule was very easy - not many opponents had a winning record, maybe one or two from my first glance.

I hope the media can make a turn and give the Rams the credit they deserve. We had a great year, and this is a special team with countless weapons. I don't see the Pats shutting us down because if they stop one guy, another will step up. Our offense is loaded with talented players who can actually catch the ball (what a nice change), and our defense has improved a lot since we've been game-planning better in the playoffs. It seems we are playing our best football at the perfect time.

Go Rams and again, sorry to hear you were treated that way. I know it might not even be possible to like another team, but if you stick around, maybe the Rams will grow on you. Good luck with your music!

Thanks for the kind words. Sorry, but I grew up in NOLA and the Saints will always have a place in my heart. I've seen them through the good, the bad, the ugly and the very ugly. I can't help that a lot of our fans online would rather stick their heads in the sand and do the whole Alex Jones ordeal of becoming mad conspiracy theorists. It's not the first time they've done that, Bountygate turned them into paranoid conspiracy theorists and that was 7 years ago. I'm thankful for what good things I've witnessed in the past decade with this team, cause I remember the rough years and don't want to go back to that.

I believe you can discount that loss to Carolina cause the Saints rested Brees and weren't taking that game seriously.

Disagree that they weren't very good. The Saints defense made leaps and bounds to be more impressive than we've seen in a while. Statistically, this was probably the best defense Asshole Face ever had. The 2009 defense ranked 25th in yards and 21st in points. Outside of turnovers, our SB winning defense really was a below average unit.

The Saints were at their peak in November. They came crashing down after the Dallas loss, but something amazing happened around that time too; the defense improved and was starting to win games on their own.

You mention them getting lucky vs Pittsburgh and Philly; the defense had been winning games for them for the past month. If you want to see a good example; pull highlights of their win over Carolina. The defense held Carolina to just 7 points that night (2 of their points were on a Brees pick six in the end zone on a 2 point conversion). The defense single handedly won that game while our offense piddled around all night long unable to shut the door.

Like I said in one of my previous posts, something wrong with this offense beginning with the Dallas game. Brees had a TD/INT ratio of 29-2 through the first 10 weeks. Beginning in week 11, his TD/INT ratio plummeted down to 7-5. He was averaging around 150 yards passing in all of their last games except vs Pittsburgh where he had a good game. This was a bad collapse late in the season and it wasn't just him; the offense lost their magic and were never the same again.

The defense has been carrying them for a month and to be absolutely fair; the defense did their job in the NFCCG. They played well enough to win. Not their fault that the offense piddled around and played a bad game, as we had witnessed them do for over a month now.

The defense improved and peaked at the right time, meanwhile our offense simply tanked after Dallas exposed them and wrote the blueprint for how to beat them.

Defense may win championships, but rarely without a productive offense. People like to bring up historically dominant defensive teams and talk about how the defenses won SBs, but most of those teams had productive offenses. The 1985 Bears ranked #1 in rushing and they had a top 5 ranked passing unit that year. They debunk the notion that you can win it all with barely having an offense. Defense don't control games with the ball in their hands. Over time, a defense will eventually tire out and get exhausted (like the 2007 Giants who were on the field so long in their SB vs the Pats that by the end of the game, they were gassed). The Saints had been overly reliant on their defense for over a month and it finally came back to haunt them.

Go back to that Eagles playoff game and the defense thoroughly dominated Philly for 3 quarters. They had less than 90 yards the rest of the game after going up 14-0. When your defense can play that well, there is no excuse why you can't drop the hammer and blow a team out. Instead, the Saints offense piddled around the entire game with dumb penalties and punts. Looking at the stats and how well the defense dominated, it looks like they would win in a blow out, but our offense struggled, as they've been doing since week 11.

Had the Saints offense figured out their problems and went back to their dominant form we had seen months ago, they would be in the SB right now. They overly relied on the defense to bail them out when they should've never got to that point.

That's what is so frustrating to me personally. If you plug in any of the Saints offenses from their 7-9 teams with this current defense, they would be in the SB right now. This offense peaked in November and came crashing down after the Cowboys game. They simply never recovered the spark to light their fire again.