Aaron Donald’s contract situation

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bubbaramfan said:
XXIVwin writes, "If an established reporter from and established source, (like Shefter, or Rappaport) reports something as fact, then yes, we can count on that to be true. :redcard:

Boy are you gullible.:baghead:
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Yeah... respectfully, I totally and completely disagree.

I think there is a HUGE problem with people who try so hard not to be gullible... and then end up being even MORE gullible in the end.

Let me explain. Consider "Flat Earthers," for example. They claim that most people are too gullible. They'll say, "Don't believe everything you read! It's all a hoax, don't fall for it! Don't be one of the sheep who falls for the established 'truth'! Open your eyes and think for yourself!" They fall all over themselves trying to prove how bravely "skeptical" they are...and then end up believing in hogwash nonsense. I mean, it's not "gullible" to believe in our school textbooks.... and NASA pictures of a round earth.... right? I'd argue it's gullible NOT to believe the earth is round.

Same thing goes for those who convince themselves not to believe "those reporters" about Sandy Hook-- and then believe ridiculous conspiracy theories about "paid actors" and all that dangerous nonsense.

Look, I know this topic gets too close to controversial territory, not appropriate for a football message board, so I'll try to leave it well enough alone. And maybe I'm in the minority on this issue. But I think a refusal to believe established reports...from established sources... is dangerous. Because when you can't believe anything, and all facts are created equal, then people end up believing whomever shouts the loudest.
 
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lets not let AD's agent be the cause of infighting amongst us
 
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You can believe "established " talking heads, FoxNews, MSNBC lead anchors and who ever else you consider "established" all you want. I'm pushing 70 and I've leaned to question everything. Everyone has an agenda and twits things to fit their way of thinking, or what benefits them or their beliefs.

Your parents lied to you, your teachers at school lied to you, your government lies to you, and scientists lie you. They are all "established". Everyone lies.

You can believe that.
 
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Jacobarch said:
how is it insulting to tell everyone that these reporters are full of crap? Why because you posted it, so it's personal to you? I dunno man it sounds like you're taking this a little serious. I have no beef with you, nor do I care to elaborate further but I can post my opinion that people are wasting their time with these "reporters" and until an actual story breaks with some concrete evidence from a verified source my opinion will remain the same.

Also, it's insulting to tell you not to get your undies in a twist? Really? .... Really.....? Grow some thicker skin my friend this wont be the last time we disagree on something.

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Yeah, I'll acknowledge I take this issue " a little too serious', as you would say. I don't really care about the undies in a twist thing. Honestly-- what ticks me off is when some people lump all reporters into the same pool. As if some dude passing on rumors has the same credibility as a reporter from an established organization (with rules of corroboration, and established journalistic standards).

You said you'd believe "concrete evidence from a verified source." Cool. I just get concerned about people who don't.
 
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Anyone reporting on the AD contract situation is just speculating, and that being kind, they have no real idea wtf is going on. Other than that AD has not reported and he hasnt signed an extension. Any filler they put in to an article is just fluff and attempts to get clicks.
 
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RamFan503 said:
I wonder if the wording of "material period of time" of section (b) would factor in if he were to hold out until week 10 (11) and not be ready to play the remaining six. If all he is looking to do at that point is accumulate his accrued year, I could see the club explore that argument.

Obviously, we all hope that it doesn't come to that but if he is trying to force their hand, I could see it.
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Ok, just going off memory here, so I could be wrong. Last year, as Duane Brown was approaching week seven of his holdout, I remember there were some discussions of Brown needing to come in at least a week or two early to avoid the Texans declaring him unfit to play in a game or two and Brown not accruing a season. It sounded like something that normally wouldn't be an issue, but their negotiations had gotten ugly. Does anybody remember the details around that?
 
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XXXIVwin said:
“Only” 22? Yes, if accurate i’d think this should help us
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Gotta figure that his sources are just like most of these guys' sources - either non-existent or pretty much just another reporter guessing. The number is probably close but I'm pretty sure most of us could guess pretty close. Who knows. He may have a source. It didn't appear that even HE thought there was much substance to the # beyond an estimate.

I'm at the point where I just want this soap opera to be over. I keep hoping to pop over here and see an end. Trade, sign, it almost doesn't matter to me anymore.
 
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bubbaramfan said:
You can believe "established " talking heads, FoxNews, MSNBC lead anchors and who ever else you consider "established" all you want. I'm pushing 70 and I've leaned to question everything. Everyone has an agenda and twits things to fit their way of thinking, or what benefits them or their beliefs.

Your parents lied to you, your teachers at school lied to you, your government lies to you, and scientists lie you. They are all "established". Everyone lies.

You can believe that.
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Oh the pain and the beauty of experience, wisdom and age Bubba. I feel you!
 
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So....

Any new rumors?

Speculative articles?

Cryptic AD tweets?

Snead comments about zip codes or ballparks?

Vaguely relevant Mack updates?

No?

OK, I’ll check back tomorrow then.

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Yeah, I understand why Brown held out. I just recall some discussion of the risks involved in taking a holdout up to the very last minute with a team that isn't happy with you. If they find a way to avoid activating you, it can wipe out the accrued season.
 
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