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matt30

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Yards per carry makes the most sense?
Ok, you just keep playing Madden....

Offensive efficiency has a higher correlation to wins than any other metric. Period. That's why the Ravens beat the Titans and Green Bay is playing for the division title.

What's your argument? Other than hand waving?
 

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Offensive efficiency has a higher correlation to wins than any other metric. Period. That's why the Ravens beat the Titans and Green Bay is playing for the division title.

What's your argument? Other than hand waving?
So Lamar Jackson led the league in rushing?
Who led league in receiving?
offensive efficiency?
this is the stupidest argument I’ve ever seen.
 

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Give it a rest with the Deshaun Watson crap.

1. The Texans will not trade him; why would they? He is under contract.

2. IF they did trade him, we dont have either the Cap space OR the draft capital to go and get him.

It is not even a remote possibility and I refuse to spend the next 4 months talking about it.

So don’t. The easiest thing to do is NOT click a link.

We got nothing else to talk about other than the draft and potential roster moves.

This FO tried to get Khalil Mack as well as took on what many here considered to be insurmountable amounts of dead cap to ship out guys who didn’t fit anymore.

Thus, our FO has increased the level of possibilities which means even very low chance things will get talked about.

So, don’t talk about Watson.

Just don’t be confused into thinking that’s some sort of moral high ground.
 

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So Lamar Jackson led the league in rushing?
Who led league in receiving?
offensive efficiency?
this is the stupidest argument I’ve ever seen.

well considering that’s McVays focus...we may as well use this as that’s gonna be our focus while he’s our HC
 

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Reading all of these trade scenarios and what it would take, and then adding in the cap ramifications makes me think it would be far better to just improve the damn OL and roll with what you've got. It would certainly be better for the people that decided to extend Goff just two years ago. Not to mention, the cost of getting Watson now would make it all that much harder to put a competitive roster around him, OL included.

Last offseason they prioritized defensive signings in FA and positions other than OL in the draft on the theory that they could fix the OL with the players they already had. While the OL was improved over the '19 season, it still wasn't good enough, and teams exploited the weak links (especially Blythe) all season long. Giving up a crapload of talent and/or future picks for Watson now is only going to make it that much harder to get the OL up to where it needs to be - and where it was when there were few if any questions about Goff as our QB.

Fix the OL, and upgrade the scheme and the playcalling. If Goff still is regressing in that scenario, then at least we go into the '22 draft with a first rounder and the possibility of getting someone or moving up.
 

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I want Jackson Carman outta Clemson to play guard for us next year. Idk where he’s projected to get drafted but dude is a bulldozer.
 

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I want Jackson Carman outta Clemson to play guard for us next year. Idk where he’s projected to get drafted but dude is a bulldozer.
And move Corbett to center - I could live with that

Just let Blythe go
 

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So you want to replace Edwards/Evans/Noteboom with another 3rd or 4th round rookie guard? Say we go center with 2nd round pick, you think a new 3rd/4th round guard will start over Edwards? I dont.

This is exactly my point. We dont have a 1st rounder to get a pro bowl caliber olineman. Corbett will start, Edwards will likely start. The OL wont be drastically improved with a new center. Hav will still get beat sometimes, Witworth at 39 will still get beat sometimes. And the young guards have potential but are not top tier lineman.
Actually I would rather have a proven NFL player instead of a maybe.
 

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And move Corbett to center - I could live with that

Just let Blythe go
If they feel confident in Corbett at center that’s fine with me. But agree Blythe is a gonner. If they don’t feel confident in Corbett draft me another mammoth at center. I want big angry O linemen.
 

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We don't really have the capital to trade for watson... BUT

some of you are down playing his no trade clause.... he will have power. But even with that its just hard for me to see it. If Watson wants to play in LA he will have some power to make it happen - but if we can't even offer a luke warm deal than the texans will go down with the ship if they have to.

Some people in here think watson won't get traded... from what I've been reading he is done with them even after they have failed to appease him with a bunch of half asses attempts.
 

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Overpay with what? What are we going to give for him?
I just heard on the latest 11 Personnel podcast that we start next year 20 million in the hole (20 million less in cap room). We aren't going overpay anyone.
 

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If they feel confident in Corbett at center that’s fine with me. But agree Blythe is a gonner. If they don’t feel confident in Corbett draft me another mammoth at center. I want big angry O linemen.
Oh I agree but I think we will only have the chance to draft one really good OL this year

Next year we can draft two really big angry OL :)

Especially since we will have quite a few extra comp picks when we lose (sigh) JJ and Floyd. I just can't see us signing either one of them. I could be wrong but this is going to be a tough year to sign anyone especially since the CAP is not going up and might go down a little.

Heck we might even get low round comp picks for Everett (6th) and Reynolds (7th).

I think Reynolds could be a decent #2 WR if the team has a very good #1 opposite him.
 
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I just heard on the latest 11 Personnel podcast that we start next year 20 million in the hole (20 million less in cap room). We aren't going overpay anyone.
I agree with some other people and I don't see the CAP going down 20 million. I think it will either remain the same or go down just a couple million. But yeah - we aren't overpaying anyone even with that CAP adjustment.
 

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I agree with some other people and I don't see the CAP going down 20 million. I think it will either remain the same or go down just a couple million. But yeah - we aren't overpaying anyone even with that CAP adjustment.
Like I said, the ones I heard from either cover the Rams every day during regular season, or journalist Rich Hammond reported this as a fact, and not an opinion. So take that as you will. 20 million was the reduction number...
 

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I'm all for planning for the future and we been building for that future since mcvay came and while many thought our window had closed after the Superbowl appearance our front office kept it open.

Now that said since the move to LA and the stadium being built seems like every move and risk taken has been done to keep us good especially for the Superbowl in our own stadium. While the pandemic puts a crimp in stuff this will be the off season where I feel the rams will not do anything harmful to blow the team up I think to the contrary they will explore and be quite aggressive in what ever there evaluation of players and staff lead too. Stan has spent the money this will be the final act. And let me stress I don't mean like win or blow it up. I mean my feeling is they will stay the course but do even more whatever is necessary to push this team over.

Think about it after evaluation they will obviously realize we are close and what needs to change and they will go balls to the wall. Don't ask me how cap Goff etc. They will devise a plan to do more than the usual.
 

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Like I said, the ones I heard from either cover the Rams every day during regular season, or journalist Rich Hammond reported this as a fact, and not an opinion. So take that as you will. 20 million was the reduction number...
I believe that is based on the calculation that 20 Million is going to be reduced due to reduced revenues.

I have a feeling (yes just a feeling) that the players union and the owners will have a little discussion that a one time adjustment will be necessary to keep the CAP where it is.

Rich Hammond reported it as fact since the discussion has not taken place yet and if none happens, then yes the Rams will be 20 million in the hole.

I just can't see it. I am placing my bets that it will not go down but that is just my personal opinion on how I see things in the sports world. Will I be right - we will see.
 

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well considering that’s McVays focus...we may as well use this as that’s gonna be our focus while he’s our HC
That yards per carry is the metric to determine who the rushing leader is? That's McVay's focus? Please elaborate on that while I explain to Eric Dickerson that he didnt lead the league in rushing when he busted 2,105. Nope, second fiddle to Hokie Gajan
 

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One name i'd throw into the trade pot along with a couple 1st rd picks and Goff for Watson is Kupp.

Top end WR with good hands, YAC ability and all the intangibles yada yada....but i'm calling it that he's injury prone and too unreliable. I'll admit that i'm tough on players who get dinged alot but IIRC he was limited in the 2017 playoff loss to Atlanta, missed the 2018 playoff run and was out again vs GB.

Hasn't it always been knee injuries as well? Not sure on that.
My point is only if this Watson fantasy football trade has any merit at all, Kupp is someone i'd be willing to part with and Houston might be interested in.
 

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My cap oblivious plan for the offseason...

Replace Hill and Everett with Long and Perkins...

Try to bring back JJ...

Bring back Fox and Floyd...if possible...but even with both back, need atleast ONE more pass rushing DL or EDGE...

Bring in a starting NFL center...

Add another tackle to compete with Hav (please come back Whit)...

Also...draft Trey Lance if no Watson...
 

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Any cap gurus out there know if Goff could restructure to free up cap? If he’s going to stay, surly he could help the team out a bit, right?