2021 Rams Off-Season

[Gandalf]

Of course the 49ers will go after him hard. We cant allow that to happen if he's available. Overpay if necessary.

Overpay with what? What are we going to give for him?

 

[dieterbrock]

I'm picking the metric that makes the most sense.

Derrick Henry? Maybe in fantasy. This is about efficient offense. Green Bay's RBBC approach produced better results and it showed. Same thing with the Ravens.

Yards per carry makes the most sense?
Ok, you just keep playing Madden....

 

[12intheBox]

Go get me Watson - we don’t need first round draft picks.

 

[Gandalf]

We were pretty successful this year with 10 wins and a divisional round appearance. The performance of the line changed drastically with the exit of Saffold and Sullivan. A single player can make a huge difference. The draft isn't necessarily the place to pick up quality linemen. Even first round picks are sometimes undersized and not NFL ready (unless they are freaks) for at least a year or so. Whitworth was picked up in free agency. So was Sullivan.

Last year we signed 3 DLman, me thinks at least one of those signees should have been on the OL. It was a mistake letting Saffold walk.

 

[dieterbrock]

Go get me Watson - we don’t need first round draft picks.

Well, you're in luck, the Rams dont have a 1st round draft pick
Oh, wait a minute

 

[Gandalf]

So you want to replace Edwards/Evans/Noteboom with another 3rd or 4th round rookie guard? Say we go center with 2nd round pick, you think a new 3rd/4th round guard will start over Edwards? I dont.

This is exactly my point. We dont have a 1st rounder to get a pro bowl caliber olineman. Corbett will start, Edwards will likely start. The OL wont be drastically improved with a new center. Hav will still get beat sometimes, Witworth at 39 will still get beat sometimes. And the young guards have potential but are not top tier lineman.

We don't have a first rounder to get a stellar lineman, yet we are going to trade for Watson??

 

[Shuie3225]

Overpay with what? What are we going to give for him?

I would say Goff+ 2 future 1st rounders at least. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder as well. Maybe a player as well too.

QBs like this never become available, and we have the big market, coach, and organization to attract him. I would do whatever it took even if its 3 1st rounders tbh. We gave up 2 for Ramsey, you wouldn't give up 3 for Watson?

We've drafted very well with our 2nd/3rd/4th round picks lately I think we could manage.

 

[Gandalf]

I would say Goff+ 2 future 1st rounders at least. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder as well. Maybe a player as well too.

QBs like this never become available, and we have the big market, coach, and organization to attract him. I would do whatever it took even if its 3 1st rounders tbh. We gave up 2 for Ramsey, you wouldn't give up 3 for Watson?

We've drafted very well with our 2nd/3rd/4th round picks lately I think we could manage.

You're right QBS like this never become available and if they do they bring in more than a couple of low first rounders.
I think you totally underestimate the cost.

If we don't want Goff, why would they? If they trade Watson, they would be looking to rebuilt with lots of draft picks and not future picks in the 20s. A starting point would be a top 5 pick at least this year and next and a bunch of seconds as well and maybe a couple of good, young players. They have to start with a pick high enough to get a stud QB to replace Watson.
What you propose wouldn't keep them on the phone 5 seconds.

 

[Allen2McVay]

I would say Goff+ 2 future 1st rounders at least. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder as well. Maybe a player as well too.

A lot of teams could make better offers, including a #1 pick this year, without forcing Houston to take on a huge contract.

 

[dieterbrock]

I would say Goff+ 2 future 1st rounders at least. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder as well. Maybe a player as well too.

QBs like this never become available, and we have the big market, coach, and organization to attract him. I would do whatever it took even if its 3 1st rounders tbh. We gave up 2 for Ramsey, you wouldn't give up 3 for Watson?

We've drafted very well with our 2nd/3rd/4th round picks lately I think we could manage.

They traded a current 1st rounder and a future 1st rounder for Ramsey. Thats a big difference. Future picks dont help the team right away, thus have less value in trades. Not to mention, expecting them to take on Goff's contract to boot?
For the Rams to be in the discussion, they'd have to include a Donald or Ramsey

 

[Shuie3225]

My point is because of his no trade clause, Watson will dictate where he wants to go. If he comes out and says LA is a fit I want to go there, Houston will be compelled to make it work. Obviously its a long shot but its not just about who has the most draft capital. Our market, coach, and competitive roster could interest him. Miami will be intriguing for sure for Watson, but who doesn't want to live and play in LA? We'll have a shot I think, whether or not we get it done is a different story. But I would def try.

 

[Ramlock]

Welcome to Fantasy Island!

 

[dieterbrock]

My point is because of his no trade clause, Watson will dictate where he wants to go. If he comes out and says LA is a fit I want to go there, Houston will be compelled to make it work. Obviously its a long shot but its not just about who has the most draft capital. Our market, coach, and competitive roster could interest him. Miami will be intriguing for sure for Watson, but who doesn't want to live and play in LA? We'll have a shot I think, whether or not we get it done is a different story. But I would def try.

Houston has to get market value, or they wont trade him. If he refuses to show up, he jeopardizes his $$.
If he officially demands a trade, we'll find out what the stipulations are

 

[Gandalf]

My point is because of his no trade clause, Watson will dictate where he wants to go. If he comes out and says LA is a fit I want to go there, Houston will be compelled to make it work. Obviously its a long shot but its not just about who has the most draft capital. Our market, coach, and competitive roster could interest him. Miami will be intriguing for sure for Watson, but who doesn't want to live and play in LA? We'll have a shot I think, whether or not we get it done is a different story. But I would def try.

Houston doesn't give a big rat's ass about our market or coach, they are concerned about what they receive in return and it's more than we have to give. By the time we give Houston compensation, we won't have a competitive roster and we wouldn't have picks or money to improve.
The NFL doesn't quite work like the NBA.

 

[Merlin]

I would say Goff+ 2 future 1st rounders at least. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd rounder as well. Maybe a player as well too.

QBs like this never become available, and we have the big market, coach, and organization to attract him. I would do whatever it took even if its 3 1st rounders tbh. We gave up 2 for Ramsey, you wouldn't give up 3 for Watson?

We've drafted very well with our 2nd/3rd/4th round picks lately I think we could manage.

I would stop short of doing whatever it takes. Goff and 3x first round picks would infuriate me for example.

And even if we do trade for him we need to invest in the OL, Center at the least, not to mention we're going to need a LT by 2022 if not earlier. Maybe I'm just really tired of not having first round picks but this is why I'm not so hot on that trade.

 

[Tano]

So you think upgrading center will turn this into a great OL for Goff? We have no 1st round pick. We wont be getting an elite center talent in round 2. I think upgrading center will help yes obviously, but people thinking it will transform the play of all 4 other positions are kidding themselves.

Not one person on our line is a great player. Even after upgrading center the OL will br more or less average again next year. Middle of the pack. So again, can Goff be successful with an average line?

I never said great. I am thinking above average with a very good center.

The last 2 drafts have had many very good centers available.

Cushenberry, Biadasz, the Washington center and they were all available in the third round or later.

I would rather have any of those 3 than Blythe.

 

[Tano]

One of the biggest examples of Blythe being a below average center was in the second Seattle game where Blythe was standing around for a good half - second not blocking anyone and decided to help Edwards on protection and he got blown up by the DL straight into Goff right as he threw the ball.

Goff had a open Woods for a TD and missed him because of that terrible block by Blythe. And I have seen Blythe do similar stuff like that too many times to desperately want an upgrade over THE MATADOR.

In the GB game, Whitworth let his man go to take an outside rusher and passed off his rusher to Blythe who completely OLE the block and got Goff sacked.

Too many times man too many fricken times.

Let's get Goff a CENTER who can hold his own for a half second longer than Blythe. That's all Goff needs.

 

[Gandalf]

I would stop short of doing whatever it takes. Goff and 3x first round picks would infuriate me for example.

And even if we do trade for him we need to invest in the OL, Center at the least, not to mention we're going to need a LT by 2022 if not earlier. Maybe I'm just really tired of not having first round picks but this is why I'm not so hot on that trade.

If it was Goff and 3 firsts I would jump on it. But I don't think Goff and 3 picks in the 20s come close to getting it done, but I could be wrong. I don't know how desirable Goff is to other teams. I think they would prefer a top pick on a rookie contract to rebuild with.

 

[Merlin]

If it was Goff and 3 firsts I would jump on it. But I don't think Goff and 3 picks in the 20s come close to getting it done, but I could be wrong. I don't know how desirable Goff is to other teams. I think they would prefer a top pick on a rookie contract to rebuild with.

I would guess two things are required for a trade on the part of the Texans. One is enough picks to sweeten the deal. The other being cap space to take on Goff's contract.

Though nowadays I tend to wonder why we even discuss cap space since teams do whatever the fuck they want. Sometimes I suspect it's all BS.

 

[Gandalf]

I would guess two things are required for a trade on the part of the Texans. One is enough picks to sweeten the deal. The other being cap space to take on Goff's contract.

Though nowadays I tend to wonder why we even discuss cap space since teams do whatever the fuck they want. Sometimes I suspect it's all BS.

I think a top 5 pick or two would start the convo and then haggle about what else they want. I don't know if they would want Goff. I think they would want a sparkling new QB from the draft. Goff wouldn't ignite the fan base like a stud rookie and there would have to be some excitement there if they move Watson.