2021 Rams Off-Season

[Tano]

I am not a capologist, but I think the Rams can adjust the cap numbers for Goff by delaying them to years further out.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Oh I agree but I think we will only have the chance to draft one really good OL this year

Next year we can draft two really big angry OL

Especially since we will have quite a few extra comp picks when we lose (sigh) JJ and Floyd. I just can't see us signing either one of them. I could be wrong but this is going to be a tough year to sign anyone especially since the CAP is not going up and might go down a little.

Heck we might even get low round comp picks for Everett (6th) and Reynolds (7th).

I think Reynolds could be a decent #2 WR if the team has a very good #1 opposite him.

I don’t want these more nimble pulling guards and centers. I know they work really well in certain circumstances but I want absolute monsters at guard and center that play angry. Gimme some 330+ dudes

 

[WoodsideRam]

What about taking a flier on Aldon Smith? I think he behaved himself this year, didn't he? Maybe he can be the latest OLB to benefit from the Aaron Donald factor. He would be cheaper than what Leonard Floyd will be asking. Just a thought.

 

[Tano]

I don’t want these more nimble pulling guards and centers. I know they work really well in certain circumstances but I want absolute monsters at guard and center that play angry. Gimme some 330+ dudes

I have no problems with that - I'll drink to that

 

[Angry Ram]

One name i'd throw into the trade pot along with a couple 1st rd picks and Goff for Watson is Kupp.

Top end WR with good hands, YAC ability and all the intangibles yada yada....but i'm calling it that he's injury prone and too unreliable. I'll admit that i'm tough on players who get dinged alot but IIRC he was limited in the 2017 playoff loss to Atlanta, missed the 2018 playoff run and was out again vs GB.

Hasn't it always been knee injuries as well? Not sure on that.
My point is only if this Watson fantasy football trade has any merit at all, Kupp is someone i'd be willing to part with and Houston might be interested in.

Yeah, but who are you gonna replace him with? Unless you think they can somehow get a FA like Kenny Galloday or Will Fuller on top of Deshaun. Which I don't see happening. You'd probably have to give them this year's 2nd rounder, too so if not a FA have to hope to hit on someone in the third.

I'd only swap QBs and give them all the 1st round picks they want. Roll with the second rounders lol.

 

[CanadianFan]

Do you guys see the Rams picking a qb next draft?

 

[simonblaze]

Do you guys see the Rams picking a qb next draft?

I hope so...

I wouldnt put it past McVay taking a QB early depending on who is available (like trading up for Trey Lance) and surprising all of us like he did with Akers and Jefferson...

 

[Mojo Ram]

Yeah, but who are you gonna replace him with? Unless you think they can somehow get a FA like Kenny Galloday or Will Fuller on top of Deshaun. Which I don't see happening. You'd probably have to give them this year's 2nd rounder, too so if not a FA have to hope to hit on someone in the third.

I'd only swap QBs and give them all the 1st round picks they want. Roll with the second rounders lol.

Good question. The way i see it, having great WR's is more crucial if Goff is your QB than if Watson is your QB. Hope that makes sense.

Woods is still here. A healthy Higbee is a legit target. We saw that in '19. Clearly Akers will be a huge part of the entire offense next year. Kupp being gone opens the door for Jefferson. I'm done with Reynolds, he did okay in his time here for what he is.

The Rams can go get a vet WR in FA or draft one. I still like TY Hilton. Despite the narrative, the Rams have lots of draft picks every year(weird right?)...and have done well in the UDFA market.

 

[dieterbrock]

Any cap gurus out there know if Goff could restructure to free up cap? If he’s going to stay, surly he could help the team out a bit, right?

He had restructured once already, not sure how that impacts doing another. But either way, a restructure doesnt hurt the player, just moves money around.

 

[payote75]

Hate to even write this and I don't know what the dead cap would be in total but.....
If your giving the Texans:
Goff
Kupp
What else would you be willing to add or have to add.

Would it still take multiple 1st rounders? Or one first and two 3rds? Or no first at all and two 3rds?

Also does anyone think the jets or Miami would trade there 2nd 1st rounder for kupp?
Or like kupp and a 5th?

 

[Mackeyser]

That yards per carry is the metric to determine who the rushing leader is? That's McVay's focus? Please elaborate on that while I explain to Eric Dickerson that he didnt lead the league in rushing when he busted 2,105. Nope, second fiddle to Hokie Gajan

That efficiency is his focus. He's used the words "be efficient on offense" enough times by now, it's practically a mantra.

I really don't care to get into the spat about YPC versus overall yards.

 

[jrry32]

Yeah, but who are you gonna replace him with? Unless you think they can somehow get a FA like Kenny Galloday or Will Fuller on top of Deshaun. Which I don't see happening. You'd probably have to give them this year's 2nd rounder, too so if not a FA have to hope to hit on someone in the third.

I'd only swap QBs and give them all the 1st round picks they want. Roll with the second rounders lol.

Van replaces Kupp, and we can sign a cheaper FA as a #3 WR (Keelan Cole, Breshad Perriman, Sammy Watkins, etc.).

Hate to even write this and I don't know what the dead cap would be in total but.....
If your giving the Texans:
Goff
Kupp
What else would you be willing to add or have to add.

Would it still take multiple 1st rounders? Or one first and two 3rds? Or no first at all and two 3rds?

Also does anyone think the jets or Miami would trade there 2nd 1st rounder for kupp?
Or like kupp and a 5th?

It depends on how much the Texans like Goff. If they like him, a Goff + Kupp + two firsts deal could be possible. The issue we confront in that scenario is cap space. The Texans don't have a lot of cap space. They'd be taking on over $35 million between Goff and Kupp even if we held onto the two long enough to pay the signing bonuses. That would be tough for them in their current financial predicament.

 

[FrantikRam]

Our QB was statistically average. Average passer rating, average yards per attempt, higher than average sacks and sack rate, higher than average completion rate, top 1/3 completions and attempts. Our rushing attack was not top 10 whatsoever. Our yards per attempt were below average. Partially because some of our star running backs spent a significant amount of time injured (in large part because of poor oline play). Our rushing has been embarrassingly poor in short yardage situations also. The entire offense has been hobbled by this line. It was evident from the start of the season when we came out of the gate with boots, screens and nothing downfield.

There is plenty to be done in free agency. Like I said, that's exactly how we acquired pro-bowl talent like Whitworth and Sullivan.

Yes. Adding a center would drastically improve the line situation. Interior pressure is a drive killer. It's why Aaron Donald is the linchpin of our defense. It disrupts the play action game, makes it impossible to step up into the pocket for a deeper pass game, and poor center play makes the guard's job significantly harder.


Examples (horrible center play):

View: https://youtu.be/mp0c8xkCacM?t=155


(Evans fails to hold his block):

View: https://youtu.be/mp0c8xkCacM?t=449


(Evans false start)

View: https://youtu.be/mp0c8xkCacM?t=84


(Blythe wiffs on his block, completely misses his man)

View: https://youtu.be/mp0c8xkCacM?t=395


(Evans absolutely manhandled, Blythe zero help on the double team)

View: https://youtu.be/mp0c8xkCacM?t=510


(Same story)

View: https://youtu.be/mp0c8xkCacM?t=517

Goff had a below average passer rating and led the league in turnovers. That's not average QB play.

We were 11th in rush yards per game and averaged 4.3 yards per carry, which ties us with three other teams around 15th - run game was slightly above average.

 

[jrry32]

Goff had a below average passer rating and led the league in turnovers. That's not average QB play.

We were 11th in rush yards per game and averaged 4.3 yards per carry, which ties us with three other teams around 15th - run game was slightly above average.

Carson Wentz turned the ball over more than Goff, so that's clearly not correct.

 

[FrantikRam]

Carson Wentz turned the ball over more than Goff, so that's clearly not correct.

Thank you, I was too lazy to check. Now I did.

I'll amend my statement:

Goff had the sixth most turnovers in the NFL, that's not average QB play.

 

[Mackeyser]

Van replaces Kupp, and we can sign a cheaper FA as a #3 WR (Keelan Cole, Breshad Perriman, Sammy Watkins, etc.).



It depends on how much the Texans like Goff. If they like him, a Goff + Kupp + two firsts deal could be possible. The issue we confront in that scenario is cap space. The Texans don't have a lot of cap space. They'd be taking on over $35 million between Goff and Kupp even if we held onto the two long enough to pay the signing bonuses. That would be tough for them in their current financial predicament.

While I think the Rams offer more "in the hand" trade value with Goff + players... I have a feeling that Caserio is gonna just want picks. I mean if they want to offer a more cap friendly deal, they could offer Goff + Jefferson + Rapp + a 1st in 2022. That's 3 starters PLUS picks and all of those have the potential to either regain or attain pro bowl levels of play. You'd be hard pressed to get that with FIVE 1st rounders.

But, like I said, I think Caserio is gonna just want picks "to put his stamp" on the team. A lot will rest on who they bring in as a HC. If they do sign Bienemy, Houston may hold firm on not trading Watson at all or they may want to go for a mobile QB.

I think that's stupid unless he's gonna get Lawrence. I don't like Fields as an NFL QB. Just don't have a good feeling. Trey Lance? Maybe... with the right coaches.

Anyway, Watson is a low chance move, but it'd shake up the entire NFL, that's for sure...

 

[jrry32]

While I think the Rams offer more "in the hand" trade value with Goff + players... I have a feeling that Caserio is gonna just want picks. I mean if they want to offer a more cap friendly deal, they could offer Goff + Jefferson + Rapp + a 1st in 2022. That's 3 starters PLUS picks and all of those have the potential to either regain or attain pro bowl levels of play. You'd be hard pressed to get that with FIVE 1st rounders.

But, like I said, I think Caserio is gonna just want picks "to put his stamp" on the team. A lot will rest on who they bring in as a HC. If they do sign Bienemy, Houston may hold firm on not trading Watson at all or they may want to go for a mobile QB.

I think that's stupid unless he's gonna get Lawrence. I don't like Fields as an NFL QB. Just don't have a good feeling. Trey Lance? Maybe... with the right coaches.

Anyway, Watson is a low chance move, but it'd shake up the entire NFL, that's for sure...

If Bieniemy is the HC, I think Watson stays.

Thank you, I was too lazy to check. Now I did.

I'll amend my statement:

Goff had the sixth most turnovers in the NFL, that's not average QB play.

I would say he was below average on the year as a whole. With Whitworth, I think he was average.

 

[Mackeyser]

If Bieniemy is the HC, I think Watson stays.

We'll see. I think you're right, but when ownership gave Easterby that vote of confidence... that may have been the last straw.

What's the point of having Bienemy if they refuse to retain talent?

I think Bienemy would make it harder to leave, but not impossible.

Honestly, until the Easterby thing, I really thought they'd patch things up and figure it out even as entertaining as it is to wonder about Watson in horns. But when Andre Johnson tweeted that Easterby's the problem and Watson basically tweeted, "FACTS"... that doesn't bode well.

I also have a feeling that with Bienemy not even on their radar, I don't think they're gonna hire him and have to be tied to him for potentially years if he's not their guy. The Texans may simply go to Watson and sorta lay it out, "look, we'll hire your guy, but you gotta stay and put up all this leaving stuff".

This is one of those situations that I don't think even those involved have any real idea how all this ends... Gonna make for tons of content, tho...

 

[matt30]

Goff had a below average passer rating and led the league in turnovers. That's not average QB play.

We were 11th in rush yards per game and averaged 4.3 yards per carry, which ties us with three other teams around 15th - run game was slightly above average.

It's average for a QB with a bad Oline that is asked to pass more often than not. That includes QBs like Wilson and Brady this year. Rivers and Winston last year. And Roethlisberger and Luck the year before that.

His passer rating was 90 which is the long-term league average. Especially considering a good completion percentage with almost no long passes completed and the low number of throws in the red zone (two stats which heavily influence passer rating).

 

[CGI_Ram]

I'm all for planning for the future and we been building for that future since mcvay came and while many thought our window had closed after the Superbowl appearance our front office kept it open.

Now that said since the move to LA and the stadium being built seems like every move and risk taken has been done to keep us good especially for the Superbowl in our own stadium. While the pandemic puts a crimp in stuff this will be the off season where I feel the rams will not do anything harmful to blow the team up I think to the contrary they will explore and be quite aggressive in what ever there evaluation of players and staff lead too. Stan has spent the money this will be the final act. And let me stress I don't mean like win or blow it up. I mean my feeling is they will stay the course but do even more whatever is necessary to push this team over.

Think about it after evaluation they will obviously realize we are close and what needs to change and they will go balls to the wall. Don't ask me how cap Goff etc. They will devise a plan to do more than the usual.

Without a 2021 first rounder, it feels we don’t have enough “now” draft capital for the Watson speculation.

I am quoting @payote75 because it does like there is a win-soon window here, Donald, etc. If we are considering a QB move it’s hard to imagine a rookie scenario...

Watson makes sense in that regard.