Amitar said:

That is passing offense not total offense. Fact check complete.

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By yards they are 31st in the league, and by points dead last
Which is actually worse than last season if you can believe that

#MakeMidfieldRamsAgain

Wow Quick has been wide open for at least 4 more TD's this year and he is to blame for these kind of throws? No wonder everyone wants to cut him:banghead::rolllaugh:

been a Rams fan for 49 years. I watch every game and never turn it off until its over doesn't matter what the score is. at the end of the day weather they win or lose it doesn't change my life. its a game I don't understand why people get so pissed off and act like the world is going to end. relax and enjoy life its to short to be pissed off about a game

I basically agree, and the principal he seems to be getting at is that you've got two ways to go (Assuming you're not just a bonkers dominating team already):

A) Competent Winner - The team isn't always winning in an exciting or aesthetically pleasing fashion, but it is winning. You may be doing it on the ground and on defense for the most part, but the team is functioning consistently, has an established method for winning, and delivers wins, using that method. The three phases work in concert, producing what is necessary to win 60 to 80 percent of games. Prototype: Bengals.
In this scenario, the team is not always fun to watch, but delivers entertainment/satisfaction to the fanbase by winning.

B) Roller Coaster - The team may or may not have success, and that success may not last, or may prove ultimately empty, but man, there's something about this team that is just easy to love and root for. From their charismatic players and leaders to their creative gameplans and playbook, there's not often a dull moment. Young players flash potential, and sometimes prolonged excellence. Impact plays come often and are emphasized. The offense is smooth and swift and daring, capable of burning gloriously, and every once in a while going off in historic fashion. The defense and special teams will create turnovers, but often give up crucial plays that make every game a nail-biter. While they often shoot themselves in the foot, the stylish and creative football they play makes not rooting for them impossible. Prototype: Raiders, Chargers, Cowboys (Imagine the raiders and cowboys with a few more losses in those close games, to really fit the vision)
In this scenario, the team is fun to watch, entertaining and endearing to the fanbase despite an aggravating inability to put it all together.

How I interpret his remarks is that--with the goal being to build, encourage, and empower a fanbase that feels confident, prideful, and invested in the team--the team needs to reach one of these places. As constructed, it would seem to imply either using the current plan to establish the Rams as a Competent Winner, or turning the ideology on its head, going with Goff and freeing up the team's playmakers to become a Roller Coaster team. While this current team's fortunes do tend to go up and down unpredictably, they are hell to watch for any but the already invested who will watch anything because it's a part of us. The current way the Rams are going, they seem to want to be A, a Competent Winner, but are not achieving success. So he's suggesting the Rams need to get more entertaining, and put the kid in, and let him sling it, and make the game exciting for the fanbase.

At the end of the day, a large percentage of the team's fans will be casual fans. They want to be entertained, they want to enjoy the narratives, and don't want to attach their fandom to a team incapable of telling them good stories. Boring strategies coupled with incessant mediocrity are going to stifle and squander the opportunities this team's already somewhat shriveled fanbase has at blossoming. I don't want to see that happen, and take what he's saying pretty seriously.

Maybe too seriously. Didn't mean to write that much.

In short, what he's saying makes sense, and sports ARE entertainment, to a very large percentage of the audience, and that's also okay. And if the team hopes to be what it has the potential to be in the LA Market, it needs to embrace this, rather than resist it.

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He won't start against the J-E-T-S, BUT!! maybe he finishes the game!?!

We gotta lock this thread.

It was originally about getting out and casting your vote. Then sidetracked into Ganja. That was fine.

But the political talk is going to be deleted.

Somebody start a Ganja thread if you like. The voting is over,,, and so is this thread.

Lock this guy up. If he stays healthy I've never seen a more obvious first ballot HOF guy. I know - hes only been in the league 2 years! That's how much of a freak he is.

Dxmissile said:

So are you saying that the oline run blocking is the same as last year??? Because I dont see it in fact to me its no where near the same its a lot worse.

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It's hard for me to see how the same players in the same scheme would be dramatically worse at run blocking. I think it just appears that way since Gurley isn't breaking many long runs this year. Our run blocking was never any good last year, he just showed more vision and burst.

Fatbot said:

The million dollar question is this: Jow much longer will rookie Jared Goff ride the bench?

At this time, it appears Fisher is content at leaving Keenum under center until the Rams are out of playoff contention. What kind backwards line of thinking is Fisher following when the NFC West is still up for grabs? There is no real front runner yet. Seattle is 5-2-1 and Arizona sits at 3-4-1.

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i gave this post a thread winner for these words. so simple yet so hard to understand for fisher.

it's not happening with case. the only hope is goff.

now he may come in and the rams could lose every game for the rest of the season. or he could come in and help the rams to have a win streak. or he could come in and the rams keep playing the way they have been this season. all these results are possible.

there is only one result possible with case, the rams keep playing the way they are right now.

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LesBaker said:

For less than a gram 10K and two years is a bit much. That seems like the penalty for distribution, not minor possession.

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If it's a state jail felony, it's really not hard to get probation, unless it's like your 3rd felony. Source: I'm on probation for 2 of them (weed) . It's crazy how you think you know someone until THEY get in trouble and can't man up.

HeiseNBerg said:

I'll be rooting for the Cowboys that day....along with torn ACL's (sorry).

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For the Seahawks. Come on...we're the lesser of the two evils. Be my friend.

blackbart said:

I like that he isn't looking over his shoulder that can do nothing but make matters worse. I think there is a good chance the extension is already done and they are holding it back for release after the end of the regular season.

Still a lot of factors going in to this seasons roller coaster that have nothing to do with Fisher. I know he's the one making decisions and eventually there will be repercussions, I just don't think we are seeing him gone in the next couple of years no matter the record.

They are still close to turning the corner and could easily be 6-2 or 5-3, I know they're not but they aren't being dominated by anyone either. SF was a fluke. Seaderal, Ariz, Carolina those are the real Rams minus Gurley. They have to get the balance back and quit throwing the damn ball 40 times a game.

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that's easy to say but you cant just keep running the ball and not get first downs. our D will die out there. we need a QB to hit open receivers and stop running in to sacks. another thing I cant figure out is why cant keenum run the ball sometimes,roll him out, bootlegs I have seen him a couple of times with plenty of room to run but he throws in to double coverage instead.

jrry32 said:

I really wish we could get Asshole Face.

It would mean the end of GW, but his offensive scheme is perfect for Goff.

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Definitely would love Payton too. It's the lack of GW that would be the problem, but I'm sure he'd hire someone good after a series of blunders for DC hires

NateDawg122 said:

Have you watched any tape from this year? Like, at all?

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Yes, and it is overly apparent that something is off compared to last year. The numbers are not lying to us. He isn't breaking tackles, he isn't using his vision, and he isn't creating the big plays that he used to.

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Sure.
1. Matt Patricia DC New England
2. Todd Haley OC Pittsburgh
3. Kyle Shanahan OC Atlanta
4. Anthony Lynn OC Buffalo
5. Jim Bob Cooter OC Detroit
6. Jim Harbaugh HC Michigan (unlikely)

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Anthony Lynn may be a genius hire

Im sure Rich Brooks would have agreed with this in 1996, while Rams fans were happy in 1999

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How about Higbee's career hightlight catch?

Ok, instead, enjoy our awesome D!

Goff not playing is the fault of the coaching staff. We have a guy in Keenum that is stinking it up pretty good. The entire offense is stinking it up pretty good. The staff has not been able to acquire enough Febreze to mask the offensive odors. This staff has been trying to put the proverbial lipstick on the pig for quite some time.

So for us, the fans, we have to watch our third best arm talent, at best, start at QB for our ALREADY LOSING football team. Goff probably wiped more arm talent off his backside this morning than Keenum has in his whole body. Yet, Goff sits because Keenum gives us a better chance to win? Newsflash coach, you're freaking losing!! A lot!!

OK coach...if Goff isn't good enough to play yet, in your highly esteemed opinion, then throw Mannion out there at least. Try to do SOMETHING different. You've seen the best of Keenum. If Case has dirty pictures of you, we don't care. We want a winning football team. YOU are not giving US the best chance to win!

Rant off...my apologies to those...well...you know...illowfight:ball:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...on-is-running-scout-team-at-alabama-practice/

Trent Richardson is running scout team at Alabama practice
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 7, 2016

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When we last heard from former NFL draft bust Trent Richardson, he was trying out for the Chiefs. Kansas City didn’t want him, and neither does any other NFL team, but Richardson is still putting on the pads. At Alabama.

Richardson, who was the third overall pick in the 2012 NFL draft after a good career with the Crimson Tide, was back at Alabama last week, playing the role of LSU star Leonard Fournette on the scout team in preparation for Alabama’s 10-0 win over LSU on Saturday.

Alabama coach Nick Saban said he received permission from the NCAA and the SEC to have former players come back and work on the scout team at his practices. He also had Blake Sims, the Crimson Tide’s starting quarterback in 2014, running the scout team in preparation for Alabama’s game against Texas A&M this season.

Richardson was drafted by the Browns and then traded to the Colts and was a disappointment in both places. He also briefly spent time on the Raiders and Ravens but never played in a regular-season game for either team. At age 25, he has said he still believes he has an NFL future. That seems unlikely, but there are worse ways to stay in shape for the NFL than practicing with the college football team that most closely resembles an NFL team.

Ballhawk said:

"You're making us both look like idiots!"

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He's already achieved that over the years.

24 hour rule.

Soz.

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Florio is a germ of the highest order.

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DaveFan'51 said:

Well .... Next Up, J-E-T-S! Jets! Jets! Jets! The Rams are 9-4-0 Life-Time against them! 0-1 with Fishers as HC! I think we all remember that 27-13 Loss in 2012!
GO RAMS!!

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The Jets are certainly beatable looking - even with a west coast team traveling east.

If we lose this'n though - things aren't going to get much easier with Miami and the Saints around the corner. Past those three games, we hit the tough part of the schedule.

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I knew @NateDawg122 would chime in...

This is week 9...or is it 10? Whatever....not concerned in the least...Although Melvin has been impressive...Nothing like Gurley was last year...and Zeke...I tell all Cowboys fans...the ones that talk about ED's record...call me back when he gets to 1500...then we'll talk.

Gurley avg. 4.0 a carry yesterday..Don't know what the hell Boras was calling...or Keenum was audibiling to...but again 46 attempts passing... I don't even know how many rushes Todd, Tavon, Benny, and Malcolm had...probably around 19

Boston Ram said:

I agree, these kind of threads can be tiresome, but in fairness in comp'ing the players listed. Gordon has been running behind a line that has been a bunch of moving parts all year. Against New Orleans they went through 4 LT's and put up 34 points. They also lost 4 lineman that game. Our own J Barksdale has been moving around the line all year. Its not like Gordon is running behind the Dallas line.

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So true....Pitt's line with Bell isn't much to me either. What is it that makes the defenders sit back on their heels??? Hmmmm? Perhaps it's the future HOF'ers taking the snaps????