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Tavon Austin IS NOT a First Round Player

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by Playmaker, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. max Well-Known Member

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    I just can't see Austin going in the top 15. I mean, I can see somebody taking him, but lots of teams at the top do stupid things, that's why they're drafting there year after year. I just think that's crazy for a 5'8", 174 lb guy. He has a very thin lower body, that's probably why his vertical was bad at the Combine. Teams have got to wonder how long they will have this player. I'd rather have Warmack or Cooper, you plug them in and you've got a Pro Bowl OG for 12 years. That's my preference, anyway. I'm kind of warming up to Hunter in a trade down with the 22nd pick.
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_UNFZHSQU[/youtube]

    After watching that video. I like him even more....I don't know, but having a guy that has a good chance to take it to the house every time when he touches the ball is exciting. What's interesting is that he's Never missed a college game. He would seriously give our return game a big boost. We have missed that since Horn, and Hakim left.

    My philosophy is that you can't hurt something if you can't catch up to them.
     
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  3. DR RAM Rams Lifer

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    I understand your point, and you are not the only one who shares it, but Austin will be a first round player, that is a lock. The question is will he be worthy of a first round pick? This has been debated to death, and nothing new will be unveiled here by all of our collective genius.

    I don't know what will happen with him, but my opinion is that for his size he may be the exception, and not the rule.

    BTW his hand size is pretty large for a player his size, so I wouldn't use that as a negative, especially considering his lack of dropped balls over his career.
     
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  4. ScotsRam Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the OP. 2nd round? Yeah. 16 overall? Not sold. Not saying he won't be a good player, I just think he's overrated.
     
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  5. Rambitious1 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not saying that I disagree with you.......but, a lot of players have had poor measurables and gone on to really good careers. I'm not saying you disregard measurables, but I don't think they mean everything either. Production matters......a lot.
     
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  6. fastcat Active Member

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    When you are scouting a player you watch the FILM!! Only a fool would draft a guy becuase of his combine workout. There are many players who didnt "measure up" and have successful careers. Look at wes welker... If Austin was 4" taller then he would be a first round talent?? I didnt know you measure talent by height, weight, arm length, and vertical jumps, lmao!!

    Oh yea... I personally have never seen a guy with the type of lateral quickness he has with vertical speed at the same time. If anyone has please name them.
     
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  7. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    That you did. Gotta fact check before you make concrete statements...PM.
     
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  8. jap Well-Known Member

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    A couple were named much earlier in other threads: Gale Sayers and Barry Sanders. How's that for company? :cool:
     
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  9. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I don't get how people can knock Austin for being thin and want Hunter. Hunter is also a twig. Difference is that Austin has a clean medical history.

    Taking Austin in the top 15 isn't stupid. Passing on a guy because he breaks the mold is. Imagine how all the teams who passed on Russell Wilson feel...but a 5'11" QB can't succeed...

    Sometimes, you just gotta recognize when a player breaks the mold. Austin does. His lack of size is more than made up for by his combination of freakish athleticism, elite vision and excellent WR skills.

    There are going to be 31 teams a couple years from now regretting that they didn't/didn't get a chance to draft Austin.
     
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    The smaller the target the harder (more difficult) to hit! Tackling Tavon Austin seems to be like catching a greased pig!
     
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  11. jap Well-Known Member

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    Tavon Austin (channeling Muhammed Ali):

    Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee
    Their hands can't hit what their eyes can't see!
    :lol:
     
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  12. max Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing that Hunter can get stronger, plus he jumps through the roof already. And he can play outside the number. I'm not saying I want Hunter at 16. I'm saying I'd rather have Hunter at the top of the 2nd round than Austin in the top 15.

    And I'm not against taking Austin if he's there at 16. I just don't want to trade up for him. Mocks that have Buffalo taking him at 8 make no sense to me. But hey, I could end up being wrong, he could be the exception to the small skinny man rule. But that's not the way to bet.
     
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  13. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I doubt Hunter will gain much weight. He's like Danario...just very skinny build.

    I agree with not trading up for Austin...but the dilemma isn't really top 15 vs. top of 2nd round. We don't have picks at either of those spots.
     
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  14. max Well-Known Member

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    Here's my view...

    I believe Austin is going before pick 16, so the Rams will have to trade up to get him. I'm against that.

    OTOH, I am for trading pick 22 to Buffalo or another team at the top of the order and getting their high 2nd rounder and their 3rd rounder. With the high 2nd rounder I would take Hunter or another WR, then I'd have pick 46 and two 3rd rounder to work with.

    Snead was on Rich Eisen's show and said he wants more picks and would love to help a team wanting to pick a QB at 22 for a small price. So he's already marketing the pick.
     
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  15. shaunpinney Well-Known Member

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    Speed isn't everything....

    I could run the 200m in 22.13s and the 100m in 12s so on average my 40mm is 4.61 - I'm only 5'7.5" and was between 80-90k when i used to compete nationally in athletics and rugby, and was even scouted as a PR for an NFL team, but every week, i'd be getting more battered & bruised, everyone just kept getting bigger and harder to get down - 20 years on and I'm still suffering from all those hits...

    I hope TA CAN make it in the NFL - even if it's for us sub 6' guys!
     
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  16. -X- Not into the whole brevity thing.

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    Cool, man. Thanks for the background info. :nice:
     
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  17. Stranger How big is infinity?

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    Greg Cosell On West Virginia WR Tavon Austin...
    <a class="postlink" href="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/shutdown-corner-draft-podcast-greg-cosell-evaluating-wr-192252673--nfl.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html</a>

     
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  18. libertadrocks Well-Known Member

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    Cosell is a Boss
     
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  19. duckhunter Active Member

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    I've called Austin an anamoly. Where he gets selected is a puzzle to me. I can understand the folks that say in the 1st and understand that 2-4 is the conventional range for a returner/slot guy. I've went back and forth and I wouldn't really mind him at #22. I'd love him in the 2nd but don't think he gets there.

    All the comparisons that you guys have listed and analyasis seems inadequate to me. Austin in my book is a pig. Suey, Suey.

    Has anyone ever tried to catch a pig? Have you gone to the county fair and seen where they line up 20 kids and let the pigs loose and the kids try to catch them? It's hilarious. A determined kid with a somewhat comparable height and weight size advantage of a LB to Austin struggles to bend low enough to leverage the size advantage. In my mind, that's what tackling Austin is like.

    My perverted contribution for the day. Hope it brings a smile to someone's face.
     
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  20. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    Haha. I get where you're coming from.

    This move right here has to be the one that impressed me the most with Austin:
    <a class="postlink" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_UNFZHSQU#t=08m02s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_UNFZHSQU#t=08m02s</a>

    Why? Look at his body. His head, hips and shoulders never move while he changes directions on a dime. It's insane. Defender legitimately has no way of anticipating that move. It takes ridiculous body control, balance and feet to pull that off.
     
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