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Tavon Austin IS NOT a First Round Player

Discussion in 'RAMS - NFL TALK' started by Playmaker, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. Selassie I H. I. M.

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    Where a player is drafted doesn't really mean squat ,,, especially when you consider the new CBA.

    The fact is,,, Steve Smith is a short little guy who has been lighting-up NFL CBs for a very long time.

    I consider the two extremely comparable. Will Austin have 75% of the career Smith has had? I'll freaking take it and be very happy if so. All 5' 8" of it :ww:
     
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  2. PressureD41 Les Snead's Draft Analyst Advisor

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    I been saying the same thing. Austin is overrated. I pray he's not a Ram.


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  3. bwdenverram Well-Known Member

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    Tell me bro, if you aren't a fan of Austin (at least in rd 1) then who are your picks?
    I'm assuming you want a receiver at some point in the draft?
     
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  4. ramsince62 Well-Known Member

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    Well I don't know if it's his size that makes him dynamic as much as his open field quickness and speed. His size has been a concern for me from the start with regard to his staying healthy and available, but when in space, who can get a lick on him?.

    That said, he brings amazing allusiveness and can scare the hell out of defenses trying to account for him. I see him as a role player and S.T. threat, something that the Rams sorely need. So for better or worse IMO, he's worth consideration and I'll let the soothe sayers ponder the negative possibilities in a rear view mirror.

    Incidentally, I wonder how many have imagined this guy "popping" out from behind 6'6" O linemen at a full gallop. Yeah he's small and light, now let's see how defensive back fields deal with it. :boing:
     
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  5. PressureD41 Les Snead's Draft Analyst Advisor

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    this debate made me think of this cheesy song. sarcasm intended w/ this song

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyf0YwUJcqk[/youtube]

    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyf0YwUJcqk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyf0YwUJcqk</a>
     
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  6. iced Well-Known Member

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    Whatever bro, say what you want but austin has proven against different levels of competition that he's still effective. That's what you want in a play maker right?

    Even mister "slot machine" went deep against LSU more than once.. I'll take a football player over measureables, like a onobun or alex barron
     
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  7. Agamemnon Well-Known Member

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  8. PressureD41 Les Snead's Draft Analyst Advisor

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    Ag, buddy whats the secret to adding a youtube link correctly, this is twice this week you helped me post it lol

    thx VCR
     
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  9. bwdenverram Well-Known Member

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    Ginn and Parrish never put up the numbers Austin has. The Lions drafted many 1st round receivers with size before Megatron and they didn't pan out. Just saying this can be argued all day. If your only argument is 3" and 20 lbs than I don't know what to tell you. I'll guess we will find out soon enough.
     
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  10. Agamemnon Well-Known Member

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    That was a simple syntax/typo error. In the Quote tag, you had inadvertently lost the starting bracket for the second part of the tag. [hil][[/hil] /quote]

    Otherwise, Dude's board is more forgiving than the RM's board and technically superior.
     
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  11. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I was being literal with your thread title of course.

    I know you're kind of a big deal, but I don't know that your assessment of Austin would make an NFL GM dumb by comparison should they draft him. Clearly Austin has a specific skill set that would be beneficial in a specific offense. Moreso than any other receiver of his type. That offense being one predicated on a heavy WCO slant or one with a focus on the read-option QB whose targets can take a short pass (or "long handoff") for a big gain.

    That's not what we're looking for (that I know of), but some team is going to benefit from what he has to offer, and they can't roll the dice that he'll still be around in the second round. That's why he *is* a first rounder.

    There are new schemes in the league than there were even a few years ago. As such, different types of players suddenly become more valuable. Super mobile QBs, for example.

    Now if I'm right about this, you can tell me in a couple of years that I told you so.

    Actually, that's not important. It's just an opinion. ;-)

    P.S. I'm getting really good at this phone-typing thing. Lol.

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  12. RamFan503 Grill and Brew Master

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    We need more threads that start out like THIS. Just sayin'
     
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  13. Faceplant Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much this. Not worth arguing again over Austin or anyone else's "DIFINITIVE" impact in the NFL before they have ever played a down. Yawn...

    I will say this. It is my prediction that Austin goes to multiple pro bowls. May even make one as a rookie.
     
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  14. bluecoconuts Well-Known Member

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    He will be picked in the first round, and he will probably do just fine. The NFL is changing, rules favor the offense, receivers have more space, hits are softer. That means guys like Austin will have a much better chance to thrive. The team needs playmakers, and that's what he is. Now I don't know who they pick, I'm not in the war room. But if its Austin, I won't be complaining. They will have done their homework.
     
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  15. jrry32 Well-Known Member

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    I have a question, was Joe Gibbs a real football person? The 1987 SUPER BOWL WINNING Washington Redskins top 4 WRs were 5'9" Gary Clark, 5'11" Ricky Sanders, 6'3" Art Monk and 5'11" Anthony Allen.

    Perchance, do you know who led that team in receiving yards, receptions and receiving TDs? 5'9" 175 pound Gary Clark.

    This same 5'9" 175 pound WR, Gary Clark, played 15+ games in every year of his career except 1987 due to the Player Strike and 1993 when he "only" played 14 games.

    Yet, we're supposed to believe that there's no chance that 5'9" 175 pound Tavon Austin can stay relatively healthy...even though he's missed a grand total 0 games and 0 practices in his career.

    BTW, Gary Clark is who I've compared Austin too. He played on one of the best WR corps of all time as the Redskins speedy, dynamic creator. 5'11" Ricky Sanders operated as their speedster vertical threat, 6'3" Art Monk operated as the possession WR and Gary Clark was the do it all WR who worked defenses with YAC on shorter routes and speed on deep routes.

    And ready for monkey wrench #2? The 2005 Steelers that won the Super Bowl...their top 3 leading WRs were 6'0" Hines Ward, 5'10" Antwaan Randle El and 5'10" Cedrick Wilson. Is that recent enough?

    Your Super Bowl argument has been debunked.
     
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  16. Warner4Prez Mɥɐʇ┴ɥǝHǝll¿

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    I love that we as a fan base (and especially a board) are so passionate about what our team is going to do this draft. This whole 1st round WR thing has been bandied about about for years now. I remember a debate going back to 2006 where people were actually advocating Ted Ginn Jr. being selected for this team because of a need at WR. Granted that would have panned out about as well as the eventual Adam Carriker pick but that ain't the point.

    The offense is hurting bad for play makers and I get that. Speed kills in today's NFL, but size helps almost as much. I think this team is set at the outside receiver spot. Givens and Quick will hold it down all season, I'm pretty damn confident in saying that. That leaves some options with the two 1st overall picks. Guard (which could happen), Safety (which is incredibly deep) or DT (which many view as a luxury pick).

    Considering there's two picks burning a hole in the pocket, I'd advocate OG and Austin. Outside receivers are set, but there is a NEED at slot, and Austin would both fill a need and be the BPA.

    Ideally I'd use Austin as trade bait though and flip 16 for another 2nd rounder, and maybe a mid-round pick next year.

    Keep up with the passion fellow Ram fans, but let's not get too pushy, eh?
     
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  17. -X- I'm the dude, man.

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    I'll do you one better, Jrry.

    2003 Patriots.

    Troy Brown - 5'10.
    David Patten - 5'10.
    Deion Branch - 5'9.
     
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  18. PressureD41 Les Snead's Draft Analyst Advisor

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    Thx Ag



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  19. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    Austin has the kind of quickness to create separation and/or a breakdown in assignment... so yeah, I can see him getting wide open however you want to define that. To me; a smaller target in a bigger window.

    It's going to be interesting to see where Austin's value is placed in round 1.
     
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  20. CGI_Ram Hamburger Connoisseur

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    His size concerns me as well.

    I just think it's his size that allows him to be so darn quick and ellusive. Put another 20 lbs on the guy in weight or height and a good piece of that dynamic quickness goes away. He is what he is because he's built the way he is.
     
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