Snead on negotiations with Aaron Donald: 'No movement'

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I think with the recent injuries we've kind of forgotten how elite Quinn can be rushing the passer.

At 27, and another year removed from his most serious downtime, Quinn could "seemingly come out of nowhere" and surprise like that.

Boy I sure hope so....that would be a pleasant surprise at this point. I think we've kind of morphed into the zone where we dont have the expectations that we used to.

Quiet resignation turns to a raised eyebrow turns to pure elation turns to....PLAYOFFS?.....yessir, sign me up!

 

[12intheBox]

I still don't see AD's upside in sitting out regular season games. I suppose he avoids injury but he also avoids paychecks. If the Rams haven't folded by Sept 10th then they aren't likely to fold by Oct 10th either

I'd love to think the Rams are in win now mode but are they? New offensive system, new defensive system, still a young and learning QB - this is not the team to hold out on. If you played for a team with a closing window, maybe. But we are just barely starting to crack this bitch open.

 

[BonifayRam]

Pass rushing elites.... LB vs DL'er both about even in talent age etc....I would always go DL. When the trade offers come in nothing but future a bundle of high draft selections will be considered.

Am I the only fan here that see's AD should reconsider playing this season & take up his cause early next season after he has played 1 of his 2 yrs left on his contract in this Wade D first? Seems he would have much better righteous stronger position in his quest.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Don't know how many times I've heard AD talk about how much he loves playing football. Looks like he loves money more. Let him sit for the rest of his contract (2 years). Lets see how much he loves watching games on TV.

Not playing for 2 years and the stigma of holding out that long when you already were under contract would seriously jeprodize his chances of making the HOF.

Personally, I'm done with him and could care less if the Rams moved on from him.

 

[thirteen28]

Not playing for 2 years and the stigma of holding out that long when you already were under contract would seriously jeprodize his chances of making the HOF.

Not to mention, giving up years of your career when you are in your prime isn't exactly a bright move either. And the willingness to sit it out at such a time would make other teams, not to mention the Rams, take a second look as to whether he's worth the risk, and that would adversely impact the amount of money teams will want to pay him, guaranteed or otherwise. He's going to get a reputation as a problem child and as a guy who plays only for money, deserved or not.

If the Rams did indeed put a substantial offer on the table, he's just shooting himself in the foot at this point. And if he's asking for a 3 year opt out clause on top of that, as rumored, he's shooting himself in the other foot as well.

 

[HellRam]

If the 3 year opt out clause is true as being reported. I say the Rams should give it to him. That puts Donald in horns for 3 more years and if the team needs to move on from him then due to other player contracts, so be it. But atleast you get a few more seasons with Donald to compete with while the cap can some what allow it.

Goff is on a rookie contract so now would be the time to pay for a player like Donald. Even if it's only a few seasons.

 

[JackDRams]

If the 3 year opt out clause is true as being reported. I say the Rams should give it to him. That puts Donald in horns for 3 more years and if the team needs to move on from him then due to other player contracts, so be it. But atleast you get a few more seasons with Donald to compete with while the cap can some what allow it.

Goff is on a rookie contract so now would be the time to pay for a player like Donald. Even if it's only a few seasons.

He's already ours for at least 4 years. So you want to pay him more, so he can leave early?

Sneads ass is gonna hurt, because Donald will have ass fucked him into submission.

 

[HellRam]

He's already ours for at least 4 years. So you want to pay him more, so he can leave early?

Sneads ass is gonna hurt, because Donald will have ass freaked him into submission.

Good God lol...

Well I get what your saying. Unfortunately however Donald is choosing not to play any years with us right now. Do I agree with Donald's decision to hold out for a better deal with 2 years left on his contract? Nope I dont. That said lifes dumb and unfair and sometimes you just have to play the game.

I say give him 20 mill a year with the opt out clause. This gives the Rams the next couple seasons to do some damage. Donald can get his new deal in 3 years and be happy and the Rams have options to do as they please.

 

[Merlin]

He's already ours for at least 4 years. So you want to pay him more, so he can leave early?

Sneads ass is gonna hurt, because Donald will have ass freaked him into submission.

Yeah if I'm the owner and my GM came in with that nonsense he'd be fired and escorted out of the building immediately.

They have AD on the hook for 3x years. Two years of his contract plus one year as a franchise tag if they so choose. Letting him sit and see the reality of things is an unfortunate requirement at this juncture. I would not trade him this year/season. I would tell him to get ready to sit out his last two years and see if that brings him back to the table and if he does try to sit out the season I'd let him.

Right now he's probably thinking he can sit out this season and still play next year to accrue his four years or whatever. But that opinion's going to change when the season starts and he's on his couch. Dude has very little leverage here.

 

[Loyal]

Good God lol...

Well I get what your saying. Unfortunately however Donald is choosing not to play any years with us right now. Do I agree with Donald's decision to hold out for a better deal with 2 years left on his contract? Nope I dont. That said lifes dumb and unfair and sometimes you just have to play the game.

I say give him 20 mill a year with the opt out clause. This gives the Rams the next couple seasons to do some damage. Donald can get his new deal in 3 years and be happy and the Rams have options to do as they please.

The only way I want a deal reworked, is to lock Donald up long term..Screw three years, because the deal will only get more expensive every year...

 

[HellRam]

The only way I want a deal reworked, is to lock Donald up long term..Screw three years, because the deal will only get more expensive every year...

Thats fine. But if Donald doesn't agree to that, then what? Thats my main point, you have to compromise sometimes. So my guess is you are advocating a trade?

Me personally I dont think hes worth 20 mill a year. But this is about what Donald wants, obviously. Thats the base of my argument.

 

[UKram]

Thats fine. But if Donald doesn't agree to that, then what? Thats my main point, you have to compromise sometimes. So my guess is you are advocating a trade?

Me personally I dont think hes worth 20 mill a year. But this is about what Donald wants, obviously. Thats the base of my argument.

You wanna give him a 60 mill 3 three year contract ?? How much of that you gonna guarantee .....he wants it so he should get it ??

He doesn't want a three year contract he probably wants 7 year 100 mill plus .. 70-80
Mill guaranteed and an option to void the rest of the contract after three years
A) because he may want one more big payday
B ) the Rams may not hit the super bowl (in his mind )

There's no way he gets a three year opt out (if that's what he is asking ) .. no way will the Rams want to be the team that sets that precedent for the NFL and I don't think the other 31 teams will want that set either

I hope Donald gets paid and he is a ram for life
But I also have no worries letting him
Sit on his ass for the next four years and lose MILLIONS

 

[Mikey Ram]

Where does the extra money come from to make 20 million a viable cap number???

 

[Picked4td]

while the who opt out thing is imo stupid to ask for, Im pretty sure if he is asking for an opt out after 3 years of new deal, I think that would be 5 more seasons. I could be wrong but I think any new deal he signs is an extension to his current rookie deal which would be this cheap 4th year, and slightly more expensive 5th year option that was picked up.

 

[Loyal]

Thats fine. But if Donald doesn't agree to that, then what? Thats my main point, you have to compromise sometimes. So my guess is you are advocating a trade?

Me personally I dont think hes worth 20 mill a year. But this is about what Donald wants, obviously. Thats the base of my argument.

The Rams have already compromised, by talking at all, WELL before the contract is completed. They then offered a substantial deal, according to Schefter which he refused. No trade, you bust him by waiting him out unless he comes to play. The Rams have all the cards here

 

[bluecoconuts]

I still don't see AD's upside in sitting out regular season games. I suppose he avoids injury but he also avoids paychecks. If the Rams haven't folded by Sept 10th then they aren't likely to fold by Oct 10th either

I'd love to think the Rams are in win now mode but are they? New offensive system, new defensive system, still a young and learning QB - this is not the team to hold out on. If you played for a team with a closing window, maybe. But we are just barely starting to crack this bitch open.

I'm pretty sure the Rams have said or at least signaled that they're willing to negotiate on the little details (since Donald's agent is someone who'll advise players to hold out over stupid things like the language) if Donald were to report to camp. Which basically means if Donald wants to be there they'll work with him, and if he doesn't they wont. It could be that they don't like his dickbag agent and are hoping he'l eventually tell him to hit the road and get someone else.

 

[JackDRams]

Good God lol...

Well I get what your saying. Unfortunately however Donald is choosing not to play any years with us right now. Do I agree with Donald's decision to hold out for a better deal with 2 years left on his contract? Nope I dont. That said lifes dumb and unfair and sometimes you just have to play the game.

I say give him 20 mill a year with the opt out clause. This gives the Rams the next couple seasons to do some damage. Donald can get his new deal in 3 years and be happy and the Rams have options to do as they please.

If he doesn't want to play, he can retire. He'll never reach free agency without playing for us. Enjoy retirement Donald.

 

[So Ram]

Boy I sure hope so....that would be a pleasant surprise at this point. I think we've kind of morphed into the zone where we dont have the expectations that we used to.

Quiet resignation turns to a raised eyebrow turns to pure elation turns to....PLAYOFFS?.....yessir, sign me up!

I don't think it would be a surprise. The year before Donald was drafted Quinn had 18 sacks.
The last 2 years The Rams started off strong with Quinn. When Quinn went down is when The Rams had the losing record.Just from what I remember?

Connor Barwin will add another pass rusher.I think The Rams might be subject to the run ? This could get ugly , but my believe is Donald will be back before game one ? That is just my thoughts on the character of Aaron Donald. My opinion of him as a Ram has not changed. He will look out for his best interest. Which I think is to play football.

 

[Zodi]

My opinion of him as a Ram has not changed. He will look out for his best interest. Which I think is to play football.

Agreed 100%. This is something I don't get. Donald is not the first Rams player to hold out-- hell, he might be the best to do so-- yet a lot of people are straight trashing him as if he spit in their face, or as if this is some unprecedented event. How long did SJ39 hold out? Who remembers the Pace situation-- rookie year, and then seemingly year after year after the 02 Superbowl?

You can't say things like "I understand it's a business..." and then take things so damn personal when the business side shows it's ugly face.

 

[So Ram]

Pass rushing elites.... LB vs DL'er both about even in talent age etc....I would always go DL. When the trade offers come in nothing but future a bundle of high draft selections will be considered.

Am I the only fan here that see's AD should reconsider playing this season & take up his cause early next season after he has played 1 of his 2 yrs left on his contract in this Wade D first? Seems he would have much better righteous stronger position in his quest.

Of course that should be his cause !! He has a chance of being one of the greats of All Time ? I think he is doing what is in the best interest of his well being & situation.
I think it is unrealistic to think The Rams have the salary to pay him what he wants. I'm sure they offered him the most they could without hurting the franchise. Ogletree still needs to get paid ??
Tavon under Fisher & Demoff was a big mistake. You can tell by the Ram fans support of Donald vs. when Tavon got paid the difference of the 2 players.
The Rams have a lot more talent than NFL fans think. The addition of Whitworth was huge , & a bigger need for The Rams going into 2017.
My believe in Aaron Donald is he is one of the hardest working players in the NFL, & when the lights come on he will be ready to go.There is no reason to risk him. If you look back at the past with certain players during the preseason such as Gurley, they have had limited reps.