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https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22...d-contract-defensive-line-market-a24c61d31e69

Aaron Donald Can’t Be Paid Enough
And his next deal will set the market for all defensive linemen
BY ROBERT MAYS /June 22, 2017

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In April, the Rams went through the formality of picking up the fifth-year option on Aaron Donald’s rookie deal. Considering the 26-year-old defensive tackle has emerged as one of the best players in all of football, snagging him for another season at $6.9 million was never in question.

Los Angeles now has its best player under contract through the 2018 season and can focus its front-office energies elsewhere. At least it would seem that way, but all spring long, general manager Les Snead talked about how a long-term deal for Donald is a near-term priority.

Looking that far into the future may seem misguided, but there’s a reason that conversations about possible extensions for superstars from the 2014 draft such as Donald, Odell Beckham Jr., and Khalil Mack are happening now.

This fall, Donald will take home a base salary of $1.8 million and carry a cap hit of $3.2 million. In cash earnings, that puts him 43rd among defensive tackles and 618th in the entire NFL. There may not be 617 players in league history better than Aaron Donald.

The rookie salary scale has ensured that guys in the Donald-Beckham-Mack class are among the best bargains in the entire league, so it’s understandable that Donald would look at someone like Carolina’s Kawann Short — who, after a recent extension, will make $26 million in cash this year alone — and call bullshit.

Young stars drastically outperforming their rookie deals wasn’t a hot topic last year for a simple reason: There just weren’t many of them. Last summer, we would have been talking about players from the 2013 rookie class, but that was a historically putrid crop that’s already been sent on reclamation tours all over the league.

ADonald-top-inside_640.jpg


The players from that group who did sign extensions after Year 3 were almost all linemen (Kyle Long, Travis Frederick, and Lane Johnson). All are elite talents, but there wasn’t nearly the star power that’s in play this year.

Still, since the 2011 CBA put the rookie salary scale in place, plenty of home run picks have signed long-term extensions after only three years of their five-year deals. Luke Kuechly signed his $62 million extension in September 2015, and Donald’s teammate Robert Quinn inked a six-year, $66 million deal following a 19-sack season in 2013.

So, there is plenty of recent precedent for players of Donald’s caliber signing monster deals with a couple of seasons left of team control. What those deals present, though, are myriad factors absent from negotiations for free agents or players nearing the end of their first contracts.

Extensions handed out this early into a rookie deal come with their own complications that Donald and the handful of other stars from the 2014 draft will face over the next few months.

The first item to iron out with Donald’s deal is just how much he’s worth — and the answer is knottier than it initially appears. Defensive tackles have been paid in recent years, as both Ndamukong Suh and Fletcher Cox have fetched deals north of $100 million with around $60 million in guarantees.

In terms of market value, Donald’s deal would reset the bar in both those areas. For the 2015 season, Football Outsiders Almanac credited Donald with 39 quarterback knockdowns, which combines hits and sacks. The next defensive tackles on the list were Fletcher Cox and Geno Atkins, who tied with 21.

Donald is unquestionably the most dominant interior player in football, and pointing to Cox’s $63.3 million guaranteed would be an easy place for his agent to start.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfPZdCS5oOQ

His pitch wouldn’t end there, though. Extensions are typically formatted off comparable deals at a player’s position, but in Donald’s case, the money paid to Cox and Suh may not be indicative of what he deserves. Though he’s technically an inside pass rusher, Donald often impacts the game at a level reserved for the league’s dominant edge guys.

Pro Football Focus credited Donald with 82 pressures last season, a mark that tied him for third-most in the entire league. In no universe should a player that spends every snap between the tackles have a pass-rushing impact that compares to Von Miller’s and Khalil Mack’s, but such is the majesty of Aaron Donald. His imprint on the game isn’t that of an interior player, so it would follow that his contract shouldn’t be either.

When Mack eventually gets his deal, it will almost certainly surpass Miller’s contract total and make him the highest paid non-quarterback in the league (which, after Derek Carr’s payday, will give the Raiders two very expensive, but absolutely vital franchise cornerstones).

Considering the market at his position, anyone who has seen Mack play — and use the bones of opposing offensive tackles as toothpicks — would find that reasonable.

When it’s time for Donald’s offer, it would be more appropriate to throw around names like Miller and Mack than Cox and Suh. In recent years, contracts for interior and edge players have crept closer together than ever before. Among defenders, three of the five highest guaranteed-money figures belong to defensive tackles.

But what Miller’s recent extension shows is that among the game’s best, a gap still exists between traditional pass rushers and those who wreak their havoc on the inside. If any player deserves to take the trajectories of superstar interior and edge salaries from converging to overlapping, it would be Donald.

Donald’s on-field value makes him worthy of a deal that at least scratches the ceiling of the marketplace, but both sides have legitimate reasons to not make a deal right now.

There are plenty of reasons for Donald to want a deal. Not only would an extension bring a hefty raise, but it would grant him some much-needed security. Injury concerns are constant in the NFL, especially for a player who spends all his time in the muck like Donald does. Getting a deal done now would allow Donald to at least approach his true value while also setting himself up for the long term.

Prioritizing a payday comes with its own drawbacks, though. J.J. Watt became one of the first players drafted under the new CBA to sign an extension when he inked a six-year, $100 million deal on the eve of the 2014 season. The deal gave Watt about $52 million in practical guarantees, with an average annual salary of $16.7 million.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1ZUuvts1s

Three years ago, both those figures set a new bar for defensive players league-wide. Today, both seem like a bargain for Watt — as long as he can stay healthy. His average salary puts him just ahead of guys like Melvin Ingram, Chandler Jones, and Short — undeniably excellent players but nowhere close to the rare air where Watt resides. With the cap expanding at such a rapid rate ($12 million this past year and likely a similar increase next season), extensions built around fixed salaries can quickly fall behind the market.

The other downside to reupping early is that negotiating with a single team inherently depresses a player’s bargaining power. With superstar-caliber players, the franchise tag becomes a weapon that teams are more than willing to wield. Under his current deal, the Rams would have Donald under team control for two more seasons at an average cap hit of about $5 million.

Bring the franchise tag into play, though, and that quickly becomes three years. With the rising cap, the franchise number for defensive tackles will likely be around $16 million in 2019. That would mean three years of Donald for about $26 million.

That’s a huge bargain when the starting point for Donald’s extension on the open market would be more than $17 million annually. In terms of value, the Rams should have no problem slapping Donald with the tag for at least one season, if not two.

Now, that’s a particularly sinister way of looking at the Rams’ intentions. In previous cases like those of Robert Quinn and Tavon Austin — both of whom signed extensions following their third seasons — the franchise has been willing to extend players long before they’d hit the open market.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQSFqnLDh0

There’s no indication that the organization would look to squeeze every drop of Donald’s value without rewarding him with a long-term deal. But the franchise tag gives the Rams a ton of leverage at this stage of the negotiation.

On the open market, Donald would easily warrant a deal that rivals the best players at his position and some of the most impactful defenders in football. The problem is that for a host of reasons, he’ll probably never come close to a bidding war for his services. At this point, there’s not much more Donald can do to prove his worth to the Rams and their defense.

Even if stepping into Wade Phillips’s attacking scheme turns Donald into an actual horror movie villain for opposing quarterbacks, any uptick in his market value would only be incremental. He’s already among the most valuable non-quarterbacks in the entire league, but based on the system in place, it’s likely that no matter how or when the two sides reach a deal, Donald may not get the deal he deserves.
 

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Agreed 100%. This is something I don't get. Donald is not the first Rams player to hold out-- hell, he might be the best to do so-- yet a lot of people are straight trashing him as if he spit in their face, or as if this is some unprecedented event. How long did SJ39 hold out? Who remembers the Pace situation-- rookie year, and then seemingly year after year after the 02 Superbowl?

You can't say things like "I understand it's a business..." and then take things so damn personal when the business side shows it's ugly face.

Way back I had a TradeSJ name.
It was because The Rams needed to rebuild & draft a QB. Marc Bulger was holding them hostage as well. I wanted them to trade for Dallas 2 first round pick(McFadden,Jones) .

Now as I look back Matt Ryan was the guy to draft. Atlanta was in need of a QB.
The Rams could have traded back with them & still got a Joe Flacco.
Wanted Desean Jackson instead of Donnie Avery for sure.

I think Les Snead has brought a great element to The Rams. Just always think trading back is the way to go. Especially with the scouts The Rams have in place.Even with Jared Goff, I think it would have been best not to trade up.
The Rams didn't need to rebuild anymore.The fact they did though puts the franchise in a better place with McVay as HEad Coach.
 

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https://www.theringer.com/2017/6/22...d-contract-defensive-line-market-a24c61d31e69

Aaron Donald Can’t Be Paid Enough
And his next deal will set the market for all defensive linemen
BY ROBERT MAYS /June 22, 2017

1_q56gOlf43B90iTicJFABWw.0.jpeg

AP Images/Getty Images/Ringer illustration

In April, the Rams went through the formality of picking up the fifth-year option on Aaron Donald’s rookie deal. Considering the 26-year-old defensive tackle has emerged as one of the best players in all of football, snagging him for another season at $6.9 million was never in question.

Los Angeles now has its best player under contract through the 2018 season and can focus its front-office energies elsewhere. At least it would seem that way, but all spring long, general manager Les Snead talked about how a long-term deal for Donald is a near-term priority.

Looking that far into the future may seem misguided, but there’s a reason that conversations about possible extensions for superstars from the 2014 draft such as Donald, Odell Beckham Jr., and Khalil Mack are happening now.

This fall, Donald will take home a base salary of $1.8 million and carry a cap hit of $3.2 million. In cash earnings, that puts him 43rd among defensive tackles and 618th in the entire NFL. There may not be 617 players in league history better than Aaron Donald.

The rookie salary scale has ensured that guys in the Donald-Beckham-Mack class are among the best bargains in the entire league, so it’s understandable that Donald would look at someone like Carolina’s Kawann Short — who, after a recent extension, will make $26 million in cash this year alone — and call bullcrap.

Young stars drastically outperforming their rookie deals wasn’t a hot topic last year for a simple reason: There just weren’t many of them. Last summer, we would have been talking about players from the 2013 rookie class, but that was a historically putrid crop that’s already been sent on reclamation tours all over the league.

ADonald-top-inside_640.jpg


The players from that group who did sign extensions after Year 3 were almost all linemen (Kyle Long, Travis Frederick, and Lane Johnson). All are elite talents, but there wasn’t nearly the star power that’s in play this year.

Still, since the 2011 CBA put the rookie salary scale in place, plenty of home run picks have signed long-term extensions after only three years of their five-year deals. Luke Kuechly signed his $62 million extension in September 2015, and Donald’s teammate Robert Quinn inked a six-year, $66 million deal following a 19-sack season in 2013.

So, there is plenty of recent precedent for players of Donald’s caliber signing monster deals with a couple of seasons left of team control. What those deals present, though, are myriad factors absent from negotiations for free agents or players nearing the end of their first contracts.

Extensions handed out this early into a rookie deal come with their own complications that Donald and the handful of other stars from the 2014 draft will face over the next few months.

The first item to iron out with Donald’s deal is just how much he’s worth — and the answer is knottier than it initially appears. Defensive tackles have been paid in recent years, as both Ndamukong Suh and Fletcher Cox have fetched deals north of $100 million with around $60 million in guarantees.

In terms of market value, Donald’s deal would reset the bar in both those areas. For the 2015 season, Football Outsiders Almanac credited Donald with 39 quarterback knockdowns, which combines hits and sacks. The next defensive tackles on the list were Fletcher Cox and Geno Atkins, who tied with 21.

Donald is unquestionably the most dominant interior player in football, and pointing to Cox’s $63.3 million guaranteed would be an easy place for his agent to start.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfPZdCS5oOQ

His pitch wouldn’t end there, though. Extensions are typically formatted off comparable deals at a player’s position, but in Donald’s case, the money paid to Cox and Suh may not be indicative of what he deserves. Though he’s technically an inside pass rusher, Donald often impacts the game at a level reserved for the league’s dominant edge guys.

Pro Football Focus credited Donald with 82 pressures last season, a mark that tied him for third-most in the entire league. In no universe should a player that spends every snap between the tackles have a pass-rushing impact that compares to Von Miller’s and Khalil Mack’s, but such is the majesty of Aaron Donald. His imprint on the game isn’t that of an interior player, so it would follow that his contract shouldn’t be either.

When Mack eventually gets his deal, it will almost certainly surpass Miller’s contract total and make him the highest paid non-quarterback in the league (which, after Derek Carr’s payday, will give the Raiders two very expensive, but absolutely vital franchise cornerstones).

Considering the market at his position, anyone who has seen Mack play — and use the bones of opposing offensive tackles as toothpicks — would find that reasonable.

When it’s time for Donald’s offer, it would be more appropriate to throw around names like Miller and Mack than Cox and Suh. In recent years, contracts for interior and edge players have crept closer together than ever before. Among defenders, three of the five highest guaranteed-money figures belong to defensive tackles.

But what Miller’s recent extension shows is that among the game’s best, a gap still exists between traditional pass rushers and those who wreak their havoc on the inside. If any player deserves to take the trajectories of superstar interior and edge salaries from converging to overlapping, it would be Donald.

Donald’s on-field value makes him worthy of a deal that at least scratches the ceiling of the marketplace, but both sides have legitimate reasons to not make a deal right now.

There are plenty of reasons for Donald to want a deal. Not only would an extension bring a hefty raise, but it would grant him some much-needed security. Injury concerns are constant in the NFL, especially for a player who spends all his time in the muck like Donald does. Getting a deal done now would allow Donald to at least approach his true value while also setting himself up for the long term.

Prioritizing a payday comes with its own drawbacks, though. J.J. Watt became one of the first players drafted under the new CBA to sign an extension when he inked a six-year, $100 million deal on the eve of the 2014 season. The deal gave Watt about $52 million in practical guarantees, with an average annual salary of $16.7 million.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1ZUuvts1s

Three years ago, both those figures set a new bar for defensive players league-wide. Today, both seem like a bargain for Watt — as long as he can stay healthy. His average salary puts him just ahead of guys like Melvin Ingram, Chandler Jones, and Short — undeniably excellent players but nowhere close to the rare air where Watt resides. With the cap expanding at such a rapid rate ($12 million this past year and likely a similar increase next season), extensions built around fixed salaries can quickly fall behind the market.

The other downside to reupping early is that negotiating with a single team inherently depresses a player’s bargaining power. With superstar-caliber players, the franchise tag becomes a weapon that teams are more than willing to wield. Under his current deal, the Rams would have Donald under team control for two more seasons at an average cap hit of about $5 million.

Bring the franchise tag into play, though, and that quickly becomes three years. With the rising cap, the franchise number for defensive tackles will likely be around $16 million in 2019. That would mean three years of Donald for about $26 million.

That’s a huge bargain when the starting point for Donald’s extension on the open market would be more than $17 million annually. In terms of value, the Rams should have no problem slapping Donald with the tag for at least one season, if not two.

Now, that’s a particularly sinister way of looking at the Rams’ intentions. In previous cases like those of Robert Quinn and Tavon Austin — both of whom signed extensions following their third seasons — the franchise has been willing to extend players long before they’d hit the open market.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taQSFqnLDh0

There’s no indication that the organization would look to squeeze every drop of Donald’s value without rewarding him with a long-term deal. But the franchise tag gives the Rams a ton of leverage at this stage of the negotiation.

On the open market, Donald would easily warrant a deal that rivals the best players at his position and some of the most impactful defenders in football. The problem is that for a host of reasons, he’ll probably never come close to a bidding war for his services. At this point, there’s not much more Donald can do to prove his worth to the Rams and their defense.

Even if stepping into Wade Phillips’s attacking scheme turns Donald into an actual horror movie villain for opposing quarterbacks, any uptick in his market value would only be incremental. He’s already among the most valuable non-quarterbacks in the entire league, but based on the system in place, it’s likely that no matter how or when the two sides reach a deal, Donald may not get the deal he deserves.


And there probably isn't a ram fan who disagrees with a word of this as far as Donald's value to the team

But the report (imo ) makes out like the Rams haven't made an offer or low balled AD

Schefter said a "substantial" ? Offer had been made .. AD didn't wanna sign it there's the crux
 

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You wanna give him a 60 mill 3 three year contract ?? How much of that you gonna guarantee .....he wants it so he should get it ??

He doesn't want a three year contract he probably wants 7 year 100 mill plus .. 70-80
Mill guaranteed and an option to void the rest of the contract after three years
A) because he may want one more big payday
B ) the Rams may not hit the super bowl (in his mind )

There's no way he gets a three year opt out (if that's what he is asking ) .. no way will the Rams want to be the team that sets that precedent for the NFL and I don't think the other 31 teams will want that set either

I hope Donald gets paid and he is a ram for life
But I also have no worries letting him
Sit on his ass for the next four years and lose MILLIONS

I can agree with some of what you said. However I dont agree with this idea we should ride it out with Donald if he chooses not to play. That's just too egotistical in my honest opinion. What's more important winning games or teaching Aron Donald a lesson? For me its the Rams winning games. If they know a deal won't be worked, trade him. Get what you can and move on. That's just how the business works.
 

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I can agree with some of what you said. However I dont agree with this idea we should ride it out with Donald if he chooses not to play. That's just too egotistical in my honest opinion. What's more important winning games or teaching Aron Donald a lesson? For me its the Rams winning games. If they know a deal won't be worked, trade him. Get what you can and move on. That's just how the business works.

what's important is to let everyone know that you can't fuck with the team.

now i don't think ad will miss games but if it comes to that the rams have to stand firm. initially i couldn't believe this wasn't settled in the off season but after learning who his agent is i now understand it was never gonna be an easy extension. the rams have to let the players on their team know that if you're gonna play games with your contract you're not gonna get the payday you want.

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It could be that they don't like his dickbag agent and are hoping he'l eventually tell him to hit the road and get someone else.

I think you may be right, and the Poston's got dumped by a few players because of this. There was a story about KWinslow when he was drafted by the Browns that the Redskins wanted him and when they found out he had the Postons as his agents decided not to draft him.

He’s already among the most valuable non-quarterbacks in the entire league,

For sure, but if they can't get a deal done what IS his actual value?

What's more important winning games or teaching Aron Donald a lesson? For me its the Rams winning games. If they know a deal won't be worked, trade him. Get what you can and move on. That's just how the business works.

I think that's smart and I don't think Snead would disagree either.
 

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I'm still holding out hope that he signs before the season. But I'd like to re-sign Tree and Sammy as well, possibly Mo and Joyner if they do well and don't cost too much.
 

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He's the best non-QB player in the NFL. Pay him what is fair and what he deserves or trade him. And you're not going to get some ungodly bucket load of picks for him since the team you trade him to will paying him what the Rams refused to pay him. If the Rams fuck with him by playing hardball with him like some are proposing, it will only hurt the Rams in the long run. What potentially elite draft picks will want to be drafted by the Rams, when they've demonstrated they will not deal fairly with the most elite players in the game? Good luck with that. Do what's right and fair by AD and the Rams will benefit in the long run. IMO he will end up being one of the top 5 players in the history of the NFL. Why would you want to let him go?
 

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He's the best non-QB player in the NFL. Pay him what is fair and what he deserves or trade him. And you're not going to get some ungodly bucket load of picks for him since the team you trade him to will paying him what the Rams refused to pay him. If the Rams freak with him by playing hardball with him like some are proposing, it will only hurt the Rams in the long run. What potentially elite draft picks will want to be drafted by the Rams, when they've demonstrated they will not deal fairly with the most elite players in the game? Good luck with that. Do what's right and fair by AD and the Rams will benefit in the long run. IMO he will end up being one of the top 5 players in the history of the NFL. Why would you want to let him go?

Look I've said it a million times I want AD a ram for life ... but if he doesn't want to sign the contract the Rams have offered what can we do

The Rams have said they won't negotiate untill he is in camp, the dude is holding the team to ransom "make me the highest paid defender in the league but also I want the choice to opt out after three years in case someone else exceeds my contract offer" screw that
 

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This entire situation feels like it is beginning to divide not only the fan base but also the Rams FO and players entirely.
 

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This entire situation feels like it is beginning to divide not only the fan base but also the Rams FO and players entirely.

Lol how so?? Please elaborate. The only people worried are us fans. The media has nothing else newsworthy to report on before the season other than his holdout and other big name disgruntled players so the reactions and media releases on this are going to be exaggerated. McVay himself and other players have stated everything is fine and it's just part of the business. Nothing to worry about as far as lockerroom or FO.

Am I annoyed with the situation?? Sure, but let's not panic. It'll all figure itself out.
 

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@NERamsFan, likely I went too far I have no knowledge to a damn thing. It's all assuming on my part. I've followed all of this like most of you.

I took a plunge to finally reply. No matter what I express won't change a damn thing I just wanted to chime in.

This shit has to keep Snead restless every night, right?

For once can't we just have a solid Rams team ready to rock n roll?

I'm freely Snowblind combined with Flor de Cana, my sincere apologies.
 

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@NERamsFan, likely I went too far I have no knowledge to a damn thing. It's all assuming on my part. I've followed all of this like most of you.

I took a plunge to finally reply. No matter what I express won't change a damn thing I just wanted to chime in.

This crap has to keep Snead restless every night, right?

For once can't we just have a solid Rams team ready to rock n roll?


I'm not sure when this will get done, but when it does, it'll be a great day for all of us. It sucks, especially because all this does for me personally is have a bit of a gripe with AD, but it's a business and sometimes things come up, whether warranted or not. In any case, I'm confident AD will be ready to roll come September 10th, my freaken birthday!! Lol I'm sure he'll deliver me 3 sacks and help us to victory.

I'll tell you this much, for a first year head coach, McVay sure is experiencing all sorts of off-field scenarios that'll only help season him in the long run and on our way to MULTIPLE Super Bowls!!
 

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I think with the recent injuries we've kind of forgotten how elite Quinn can be rushing the passer.

At 27, and another year removed from his most serious downtime, Quinn could "seemingly come out of nowhere" and surprise like that.
Yes but ... Quinn has not proven he can stay on the field on a regular basis the past few yrs. But I will say this, "In Wade I Trust". he has worked with less than AD before (talent wise) and still produced top 10 defenses. And I have never seen a team that was able to ride on the back of their DT to the SB. Yeah it helps your team, but one guy ..especial a DT, is not worth screwing up your future roster decisions.

Rams have the leverage. And they SHOULD hold their ground. From all indications they have made a SOLID offer and his camp rejected it. And the 3rd yr deal is BAD for the Rams, so I am not putting the onus on the FO. AD just needs to be a little more realistic and somewhat of a team player. IMHO, the longer this goes...and if the Rams have to keep their leverage (holding his rights), then AD is only hurting himself. Yes he deserves the money but, no he doesn't deserve to bend his team over the barrel for greed.
 

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If the 3 year opt out clause is true as being reported. I say the Rams should give it to him. That puts Donald in horns for 3 more years and if the team needs to move on from him then due to other player contracts, so be it. But atleast you get a few more seasons with Donald to compete with while the cap can some what allow it.

Goff is on a rookie contract so now would be the time to pay for a player like Donald. Even if it's only a few seasons.
No, because he wants a front loaded deal WITH a 3rd yr option. That would effectively cash strap the Rams during that time.
 

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I still believe a lot of AD's hold out is just to get out of TC. First regular season game comes around and he'll sign.
 

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I still believe a lot of AD's hold out is just to get out of TC. First regular season game comes around and he'll sign.
I don't know, he has always been a football fiend, which is part of why I love the guy. If it IS because of that, then I don't know what to think about him...