moklerman
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It has nothing to do with Clausen. Cutler would be getting benched right now regardless of the backup.
Jay Cutler benched for.. Jimmy Clausen
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On most teams, if Clausen was the back up they'd never bench their QB no matter how bad he's struggling. Austin Davis on his worst day beats Clausen. So the fact that Cutler is being benched in favor of Clausen really shows you how poorly Cutler is playing.
moklerman
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Cutler isn't without his issues but I wouldn't go that far. I don't think he's stupid, just a prima donna. Who knows? Maybe a big slice of humble pie will make him amend his ways. Even Warner had to hit rock bottom before he made some changes in how he did things.Cutler. A million dollar arm attached to a fifty cent head. NO THANKS!
I'd start the real Johnny Football before him. That is when he wasn't punting for us.
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I agree. That's why I say it's about Cutler and has nothing to do with Clausen. But I also think it has more to do with non-football stuff than his actual play on the field. This is about personalities and statements.
If Cutler was just playing poorly, they'd let him work his way through it. Trestman is taking the Shannahan route and sending a message about his QB. Not really sure what the Bears are going to do. The rumors are that they're going to can Trestman but how can they stick with Cutler? Seems pretty obvious there are burnt bridges there with more than just the coaching staff. I don't think those guys will play for him.
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I remember just about last week people were clamoring for him here. I wonder if they still feel the same? God can you imagine the PD with Cutler? They'd be begging for Bradford back.
Pro Bowl talent with a dime store head. Here's a real headcase, a guy with the tools to be so much more but completely happy with mediocrity.
Pro Bowl talent with a dime store head. Here's a real headcase, a guy with the tools to be so much more but completely happy with mediocrity.
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I think George and Cutler are more to blame for their troubles than not being used correctly...They both operate (or operated) in the vacuum that exists atop their shoulders...Both are blessed with upper echelon arms, but neither ever made anything out of that...Cutler showed just enough (at least in the eyes of the Bears hierarchy) to become an insanely wealthy guy...Of course, like not believing that Vick should have asked for more punishment, I also don't believe Cutler should have turned down any of the money in the ridiculous contract the Bears' idiots threw at him...
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Martz found out that Cutler is uncoachable and Trestman is finding out the same thing. Just like with Vick, they think that they can get by on their physical talent alone. Vick admitted that he just threw away the materials that the coaches wanted him to study.
No wonder he never improved as a passer.
No wonder he never improved as a passer.
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LOL.. Yeah, so did I when I was 19 -20...Pisses me off that it takes so much more than a good arm...Oh, what could have been, he opined...
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I think some of you guys ought to prepare yourself for Cutler being a Ram. I'm not saying it's set in stone but with Bradford having the injury issues he does and Fisher being the guy he is, I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams made a move for Cutler if they could get him cheap(in terms of draft pick compensation).
Keep in mind that Fisher wanted to draft Cutler instead of Vince Young when he came out.
Cutler is an average QB...but that's better than what we have now. We could win with him.
I'm not saying that I want him but I am saying that I think it's a real possibility that if the Bears put him on the block, the Rams will come calling because I think Fisher still likes the guy.
Not sure how I feel like that. Cutler is a bit of a coach killer and I hate how nonchalant he is. He's not like the calm, quiet QBs...he just comes off as detached and apathetic. But we can win with him. The contract is the only possible issue.
Keep in mind that Fisher wanted to draft Cutler instead of Vince Young when he came out.
Cutler is an average QB...but that's better than what we have now. We could win with him.
I'm not saying that I want him but I am saying that I think it's a real possibility that if the Bears put him on the block, the Rams will come calling because I think Fisher still likes the guy.
Not sure how I feel like that. Cutler is a bit of a coach killer and I hate how nonchalant he is. He's not like the calm, quiet QBs...he just comes off as detached and apathetic. But we can win with him. The contract is the only possible issue.
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NOOOOOO for the love of God. Do you not understand Cutler?
Bears fans have had him for a long time and I still don't know any of them who are sold on cutler. He's a joke around the league for a reason. Shaun hill might not be good but at least he doesn't throw turnovers like crazy. I couldnt stand to watch cutler as a ram. He forces balls into multiple coverage time after time without learning his lesson. Even trestman was supposed to be the QB guru and he couldn't fix cutler.
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I hope not. Those who want coaching changes should be on board though. I agree with Faulk...He's a coach killer.
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How can we afford both Bradford and Cutler though? I just don't see how the money can make sense. You'd have to pick and between the choices I'm pretty sure which way Fish will gamble.
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Both Jrry and CodeMonkey are likely right.
I think Fisher may view Cutler as an option more viable than WE may... and I think Fisher's asking to be fired if he brings him on... cuz Faulk's right...
I think Fisher may view Cutler as an option more viable than WE may... and I think Fisher's asking to be fired if he brings him on... cuz Faulk's right...
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We can't. It's one or the other imo.
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He may also realize that Cutler is the safest ticket he has to the playoffs. With Sam's injuries and rookies needing time to develop, seems to me that it's a safe move for him. Cutler is inconsistent but he is a starting caliber QB. Best QB Fisher will have had since McNair and more than capable of helping this team get to the playoffs if the defense is a top 10 unit.
I don't love Cutler but it's not a bad move if you want to win now and don't trust Sam.
Especially considering he wouldn't be asked to carry the team. And you never know, maybe Fisher finds a way to get through to the guy.(I doubt it)