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ESPN is wrong. The LOS was the 20 and he punted it the second time from the 22.
Nope if you watched the replay it was the 21 and his entire body was not beyond it
ESPN is wrong. The LOS was the 20 and he punted it the second time from the 22.
They can start by eliminating a 2nd punt altogether regardless of the LOS. It's 4th fucking down. Failing to advance to the 1st down marker after the (one and only one) punt attempt or (one and only one) pass attempt or run attempt is a turnover on downs...period.
Any other 4th down fuckery needs to be a turnover on downs in addition to a 15 yard penalty.
Very weird. Based on the explanation in the game, you would still have every incentive to punt it again even if it crossed the line of scrimmage. You're much better off with a 10 yard penalty and re-kick than turning the ball over on downs.They missed the call. Because the refs weren't paying attention to the spot of the 2nd kick, they gave it to Seattle that the kick was behind the LOS and unlike a pass, you CAN double kick it... but the ball cannot go past the LOS. Because of the block, the ball didn't... until the kicker carried it past the LOS to do the double kick.
So yeah, they messed up, but man... whoda thunk THAT would have happened???
If it had been one of those crazy windy days like in Soldier Field and the punter kicked it and after going forward X yards, the wind blew it back, then the kicker would NOT be allowed to kick it again.
At least, that's the explanation we got.
Expect THAT to be a rule change come next year...
Yeah, I agree with this.They can start by eliminating a 2nd punt altogether regardless of the LOS. It's 4th fucking down. Failing to advance to the 1st down marker after the (one and only one) punt attempt or (one and only one) pass attempt or run attempt is a turnover on downs...period.
Any other 4th down fuckery needs to be a turnover on downs in addition to a 15 yard penalty.
Exactly. Sort of opens up a new 4th down playbook of fuckery doesn't it? Punt it to your own guy 20 yards downfield, he runs sideways and throws a backward pass to another guy and he punts it again.Exactly, how do you defend against a 2nd punt? Every player on the field thought (knew) it was a blown play. To let them kick it twice is just stupid, and allows for lots of screwy things to happen potentially.
So…. According to Joe Fuck, the rule changed this year. In my 51 years of watching the NFL I’ve NEVER seen a double punt. What are the frikken odds it would happen first year of a rule change? Damn….. maybe I need to run out and get a lottery ticketNot sure the refs fucked up.
Rulebook apparently allows a second punt from behind the LOS if the first was blocked.
LOS was the 21. Second punt occurred almost exactly on the 21 yard line. Was extremely close as to whether 2nd punt was behind LOS or not.
LOS looked right around the 21-yard line, maybe just short of it:
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And here's a pic about a tenth of a second before punter makes contact:
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Rule currently states that both the ball AND the punter's ENTIRE body must be beyond the LOS for it to be considered illegal.
Punter's right shoulder sure doesn't look beyond the 21 to me.
I think the refs applied the rule correctly on this one. The rule itself is kinda weird though.
EDIT NOTE: Even though the refs IMHO "applied the rule correctly", I also think it's a stupid rule that should be changed. A team should have one and only one chance to punt, none of this "double punt" horseshit.
44 after the blocked punt looking for the ball LOL!How about big ups for Jamir Jones! Great block!
Yeah, I agree with this.
Even if the refs "applied the current rule right," I still think it's a stupid rule.
Like that stupid fucking Brady double pass from last year-- if the ball gets swatted back in your face, you shouldn't have a chance to throw it a second time.
Should be the same for a punt-- if the punt gets blocked, ya shouldn't have the chance to scoop it up and try to punt it a second time.
A stupid rule and I hope they change it. This is football, not rugby.
Exactly. Sort of opens up a new 4th down playbook of fuckery doesn't it? Punt it to your own guy 20 yards downfield, he runs sideways and throws a backward pass to another guy and he punts it again.
4th down doesn't look so bad anymore with the game on the line does it? Lol