WR impressions from OTAs

[El Chapo Jr]

I was responding to the your, "why couldn't Tutu carry the offense". Nobody said he could. Well, one guy claims he could amass 1,000 yards, so everybody but him. Just like El Chapo's comment "if Tutu is that good, why didn't he take snaps away from Kupp?", it's ridiculous. Everybody (but 1 guy) has said, Tutu is a #3 WR.

Damn you sure like to use my comment lol.....as said earlier, that was for anyone thinking Atwell would automatically be a 1,000 WR which I agree is ridiculous. If he truly was that already, he would have taken way more snaps from Kupp and anyone else last year. He's most definitely a #3 now with a chance to prove he's much more. We'll see how it works out

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Sorry, didn't he post a 4.39 40yd dash (edit: at the combine)? and a 4.32 at his pro-day?
Some scouts at his pro day reportedly clocked him at 4.2.... highly questionable, but it's out there.

I only saw the 4.59. At 4.32 he’d never last to round 7

 

[Merlin]

I was responding to the your, "why couldn't Tutu carry the offense". Nobody said he could. Well, one guy claims he could amass 1,000 yards, so everybody but him. Just like El Chapo's comment "if Tutu is that good, why didn't he take snaps away from Kupp?", it's ridiculous. Everybody (but 1 guy) has said, Tutu is a #3 WR.

This shit goes back. Way back. Conversationally it's like Goff... Not just about this thread.

 

[Loyal]

In that situation you sit Kupp if you need to. Reduce his snaps. But the truth is even when Kupp was out it wasn't like Atwell was any sort of go-to for the scheme. He has never owned that role. Not even when the so called "sacred cow" was not available.

But in the end the Rams moved on from Kupp. So that means there is nothing standing in Tutu's way this year and we'll see if he's gonna be a dog in this scheme or whether he leaks snaps to more non-optimum athletes like Whittington and Mumpfield. And I'll be real fucking surprised, also quite happy, if Tutu actually puts out some consistent production.

Humphrey Lover!

 

[fearsomefour]

Need to get him the football, he is open and deep too. Stop underthrowing him, let it fly Matthew.

That sort of curl sideline route Tutu runs is basically uncover able. Stafford throws that pass well with great timing. Tutu usually runs that in the 10-18 or so yard range.
Id really like to see Tutu used on slants as well.
A nice long slant and Tutu would be hard to cover on that. It would take time to develop with depth but could be a big play. Not too likely Tutu is going to get a ton of passes each week, but, when and type can make a big difference to the offense.

 

[WestCoastRam]

That sort of curl sideline route Tutu runs is basically uncover able. Stafford throws that pass well with great timing. Tutu usually runs that in the 10-18 or so yard range.
Id really like to see Tutu used on slants as well.
A nice long slant and Tutu would be hard to cover on that. It would take time to develop with depth but could be a big play. Not too likely Tutu is going to get a ton of passes each week, but, when and type can make a big difference to the offense.

Tutu on a deep out is a thing

 

[kurtfaulk]

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I just dropped in to say Whittington is a gun. If he needs to fill in a couple of games because of injury I won't be the least concerned.

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[PARAM]

What's going to be interesting is how is the ball going to be spread around in 2025? IMO, Puka gets the majority of targets over Davante. Familiarity. Reliability. Results. But I'd think Adams will get a lot of balls. Can't figure out why we don't get a lot more yardage on screens.

Down the stretch last year, starting with the Saints game, which we entered with an unimpressive 5-6 record, and ending with the Arizona game, after which we had clinched the division, here's how the targets and results compiled during that "every game is a must win" period.

Stafford 84 of 132 (63.6%) 962 yards (7.29 y/a) 5 TD 1 Int 94.9 QB Rating 2 sacks

Puka 53 targets; 42 rec; 500 yards; 2 TD
Kupp 23 targets; 12 rec; 162 yards; 1 TD
Atwell 14 targets; 7 rec; 102 yards; 0 TD
DRob 8 targets; 2 rec; 49 yards; 1 TD
Whittington 1 target; 1 rec; 6 yards
Johnson 1 target; 0-0

Parkinson 9 targets; 4 rec; 45 yards; 0 TD
Long 6 targets; 2 rec; 17 yards; 0 TD
**Higbee 5 targets; 3 rec; 20 yards; 1 TD ( didn't return until the Jets game)
Allen 1 target; 0-0

Kyren 9 targets; 9 rec; 46 yards; 0 TD
Corum 2 targets; 2 rec; 15 yards; 0 TD

Rushing:

Kyren 109 att; 477 yards; (4.4) 5 TD
Corum 27 att; 91 yards (3.4) 0 TD
Puka 8 att; 34 yards (4.2) 1 TD
Atwell 1 att; 0-0

 

[HitStick]

Massive dude is a basic slot reciver with no speed there’s reasons he went in the 6th round and yea they say this last year about tutu but Mcvay also said tutu should have gotten to play more and basically only reason he didn’t play cause kupp was there

Puka went in rd 5 and turned out fine.

Whittington, when given opportunities, caught 78% of passes. He has plenty of speed. He looks faster than Kupp ever was. Until he pulled his hamstring, he was repeatedly timed in the high 4.4 to low 4.5. His hamstring injury before the combine, preventing him from competing in anything other than bench is why he was a 6th round pick. I’m not saying he’s a world beater, but I think his ceiling is higher than some suggest.

 

[CoachAllred]

I guessing Atwell sees' more deep ball op's then any time in his career.
I also think we will see more 12 personnel than in recent seasons,
Super excited to see Atwell get that chance.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Puka went in rd 5 and turned out fine.

Do you realize how much of an outlier this is?

 

[WestCoastRam]

Whittington, when given opportunities, caught 78% of passes. He has plenty of speed. He looks faster than Kupp ever was. Until he pulled his hamstring, he was repeatedly timed in the high 4.4 to low 4.5. His hamstring injury before the combine, preventing him from competing in anything other than bench is why he was a 6th round pick. I’m not saying he’s a world beater, but I think his ceiling is higher than some suggest.

Count me as a Whit fan (though not when we picked him) but he's limited athletically and while his straight line speed (see kickoffs) is superior to Kupp, his speed on routes is not (due to lack of hip sink and change of direction skills). That being said, I think he can improve somewhat on last year. He's Deebo-lite. A guy who can line up in the slot, in the backfield, run some RB plays for you (a YAC baby-monster).

A useful player. Possibly a guy who takes a top 3 spot permanently (though prob has to show more at Z and not just slot to do that).

 

[Memento]

Count me as a Whit fan (though not when we picked him) but he's limited athletically and while his straight line speed (see kickoffs) is superior to Kupp, his speed on routes is not (due to lack of hip sink and change of direction skills). That being said, I think he can improve somewhat on last year. He's Deebo-lite. A guy who can line up in the slot, in the backfield, run some RB plays for you (a YAC baby-monster).

A useful player. Possibly a guy who takes a top 3 spot permanently (though prob has to show more at Z and not just slot to do that).

Huge Whittington fan (probably the biggest on the board), and I think that's a fair assessment of his limitations. I want to see how he does in the slot with Nacua and Adams outside. He did have an injury when he ran his forty, but he was never really the most athletic receiver, and his route running, while good enough to sell, is never going to be at Kupp's or Nacua's level.

His sheer physicality (he just bounces off of contact, as we've seen, being a former running back who switched to receiver), vise hands, high football IQ, and sheer unselfishness as a player (willing to block, willing to sell routes in a running game or when the ball's not going to him, willing to forgo stats for the win, all the little things) means something, though. I think he could easily be our slot receiver of the future.

 

[RamBradford85]

I'd watch the tape... but of course I gave him a height and weight build up here.

Still, I think you'd be better off watching tape on players than looking at 40 times. Just go to his thread and take a look at some of the highlighted plays. 40 speed ain't his game and ain't a problem either.

He’s decent but recivers that run slower 40 times don’t get drafted in the first… that’s all I was aaying

 

[RamFan503]

Sorry, didn't he post a 4.39 40yd dash (edit: at the combine)? and a 4.32 at his pro-day?
Some scouts at his pro day reportedly clocked him at 4.2.... highly questionable, but it's out there.

Mumpfield ran a 4.59 at the combine and didn’t run the 40 at his pro day. His strength is the 20 shuttle and the 3 cone where he was one of the top 10 coming out of college. I think I saw where he was the 2nd fastest in either the shuttle or 3 cone. He was actually happy with his 4.59 so I don’t buy that he ever ran in the 4.3s - certainly not 4.2.

He’s a route technician with very good hands. He’s not known as a speed guy.

 

[RamFan503]

I’ll stick with my (I believe) 700/100 prediction for TuTu as a valuable #3. I’d be astonished, flabbergasted, ney shocked, if he got 1,000 yards. It could happen, but I’d be bewildered.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Huge Whittington fan (probably the biggest on the board), and I think that's a fair assessment of his limitations. I want to see how he does in the slot with Nacua and Adams outside. He did have an injury when he ran his forty, but he was never really the most athletic receiver, and his route running, while good enough to sell, is never going to be at Kupp's or Nacua's level.

His sheer physicality (he just bounces off of contact, as we've seen, being a former running back who switched to receiver), vise hands, high football IQ, and sheer unselfishness as a player (willing to block, willing to sell routes in a running game or when the ball's not going to him, willing to forgo stats for the win, all the little things) means something, though. I think he could easily be our slot receiver of the future.

Given how much Puka lines up in slot along with Z, I think a guy who can play Z and slot interchangeably might have a leg up at receiver 3 role. Right now I'd give it to Atwell but Whitt could take on more if he can show some more WR position flexibility.

 

[WestCoastRam]

I’ll stick with my (I believe) 700/100 prediction for TuTu as a valuable #3. I’d be astonished, flabbergasted, ney shocked, if he got 1,000 yards. It could happen, but I’d be bewildered.

This feels very reasonable.