Which QB should the Rams draft next year and where?

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Fields = small hands

It’s not an absolute. There are always outliers. But the data is against him in a big picture sense.
Yeah I don't like the small hands. He's not high on my list at WR either.

In fact I'm a bit annoyed that Lane hasn't shown out, who is on my list, but I suppose it's good in a way for him being a fallback option if we load other positions early.
 
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Hearing from many people he had a monster practice week.
Yeah I missed today's practices but he's been all over the field. Looks just like his film. Worry of course with those guys is do they just get lost in the traffic in the NFL but he gives me Fletch vibes.

It's funny there's a guy or two like this for me every year or so. This year there's a couple I've seen already in this dude and York (Texas A&M Shrine week standout).
 
Yeah I missed today's practices but he's been all over the field. Looks just like his film. Worry of course with those guys is do they just get lost in the traffic in the NFL but he gives me Fletch vibes.

It's funny there's a guy or two like this for me every year or so. This year there's a couple I've seen already in this dude and York (Texas A&M Shrine week standout).
Listening to the McShay show right now on youtube.
 
I like that Kyle Louis is getting some press btw, he's another of those small and quick ILBs who fly around and can make plays in space. For me what matters most in today's league for the offball boys is speed and an ability to run down QBs when they escape. Close them down quickly before they get rolling, or force them sideways to buy time for teammates. Also speed and instinct types can get back quicker on play action and maybe still have a chance to disrupt routes.

There are a couple ILBs from Ohio St that will go pretty high in this draft. One of them would be fine by me too. But as it pertains to ILB I want speed. Sideline to sideline. I value stopping power, I value turnovers, and all that other stuff, but for me it's behind the ability to cover ground and snuff out running QBs. The dude is small but he just makes plays. Also he's another mid to late round value.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfTdmbEUy-s

Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech is another of these types. A little undersized, but fast, instinctive, and a turnover machine (7 FFs + 4 INTs this year).
 
Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech is another of these types. A little undersized, but fast, instinctive, and a turnover machine (7 FFs + 4 INTs this year).

Huge Jacob Rodriguez fan. Wanted to put him somewhere in my mock, but I couldn't help but go with Trotter because he's available and my favorite Mizzou player in this class now that Damon Wilson II is no longer there (and because I hate Zion Young's character).
 
The data strongly suggests that there is zero corelation
Interesting. I read an article that said otherwise. It was a few years old, but lots of data.

Let me clarify though, it concluded that bigger hand size didn’t correlate to a better WR. But it was clear that a line was there at 9 inches. There were very few top WRs under 9 inches. So that’s the barometer so to speak. But again, there are always outliers.
 
I'd draft a QB in the 4th or later. Somebody with warts is still going to be around and if there's anybody who can knock those warts off it's McVay. Allar? Haynes King?
 
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I'd draft a QB in the 4th or later. Somebody with warts is still going to be around and if there's anybody who can knock those warts off it's McVay. Allar? Haynes King?
Yeah, I haven't given up on Allar. If he is there in the 6th or late 5th, I would be tempted if he checks out on the chalk board for McVay.
 
Interesting. I read an article that said otherwise. It was a few years old, but lots of data.

Let me clarify though, it concluded that bigger hand size didn’t correlate to a better WR. But it was clear that a line was there at 9 inches. There were very few top WRs under 9 inches. So that’s the barometer so to speak. But again, there are always outliers.
The data is laughable, it only shows success rate, there is no data showing failure rate.
Its like looking at a data table with only 1 side
 
Does anyone else wish they would just post the fucking height instead of using a code that is like one or two characters less? Great. You explained what it means. How about explaining why it's necessary. And if it is an input thing, you could easily have it spit out the info in a normal format once you've entered the numbers. It just seems like something they do to try to look all techy and shit.
 
Does anyone else wish they would just post the fucking height instead of using a code that is like one or two characters less? Great. You explained what it means. How about explaining why it's necessary. And if it is an input thing, you could easily have it spit out the info in a normal format once you've entered the numbers. It just seems like something they do to try to look all techy and shit.
And they can blow it out their ass with the "Reference Guide to help you" patronizing
 
Finished going through everything I could find on Klubnik. Also I have to observe that the most annoying thing about looking at players is the way that some of them have a shit ton of tape and others have very little. Klubnik is the former given the way Clemson is well represented by cutups and college film types. So I think it helps give a real good feel for who he is as a QB.

Which is on the small side first off. And something I don't like. Also since I started with negatives he gambles too much, little too much artistry trying to fit the ball in there when under duress. And I would add that he looks surprised by the blitz a bit too much for my taste.

On the positive side he moves exceptionally well and has a good feel for the rush. He can make the first rusher miss too, even in the pocket. This puts him ahead of guys like Nussmeier, vs whom he is competing for midround slotting (these smaller dudes to include Simpson are, to my eye, all round 3ish values despite the media love affair with Simpson). Also he can rip it and win from the pocket on deep outs and seams. Quite deadly in particular on seams I think. He gets through his reads well enough. And I like his arm. Throws a catchable ball that doesn't hang too much. Also I like his accuracy when he sets his feet.

I expect he is someone the Rams will look at very closely because he is an exceptional fit for this offense. Nowhere in the tape that I looked at did I see him play at the level Simpson played at in the first half of this college season. However I try to look at the entire picture with a QB, and in doing that what I see is a line that gets overrun frequently. Also I see moderate at best weapons. Can't think of one offensive player on that Clemson offense where I noted him and thought hell yes I'd like to have that kid. And on top of that in some of the big games it feels like their defense was not there, which compounds all that.

So the way I see him is you're left with a smallish WCO QB who has a bit of scrap to him, but who is always scrapping to move the chains. Key question: is he a player I'd like to see behind Stafford on the depth chart? I'd say yeah, I'm ok with him and in fact I think he makes more sense because I don't have to take him early, which allows me to use those high picks for impact weapons for either side of the ball. I'll close with a couple cutup vids of his games too.

This is the CFP game where they ran into a more talented Texas squad. There was no winning this one, and it was ugly as hell at halftime, but the fight he put up in the second half, particularly from late third quarter on in dropping a lot of dimes in the face of a relentless rush... It impressed me.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktqHwFoLAwY


This is their LSU matchup from 2025. You can see the fundamental issues with the line and the weapons and their inability to dictate at all in the matchup with an SEC defense.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms_lG-sRRow
 
A 6-5" 240 QB, who was considered a top 50 prospect right before they lost their playoff game last year, will not go undrafted this year.
He was exposed in that playoff loss and followed up with a lousy season. The injury was almost a blessing in disguise
Was outplayed by his backup who didnt even have a HC
We'll see, it only takes 1 team
As of right now it's only looking like 1 QB in the 1st, possibly a 2nd QB if Simpson gets picked
Pretty big list of guys in the day 3 catagory right now, with Allar at the bottom of it
I look at a guy like Quinn Ewers, had a much better final year than Allar had, and he went in the 7th round
 
Way my view on this QB group is shaping up right now...

Mendoza goes at the top to the Raiders. Then you have a bunch of flawed options that can be sorted roughly into two groups. And all of them are probably round 3+ options.

First group is the "Association of Small QB2s Who May Be Outliers." This group has three at the top, to my eye at least, who are roughly equivalent, those being Simpson, Klubnik, and Gronowski. Then you have some dropoff and guys with more concerns or less skills, the Nussmeiers, Altmayers, etc who are more unlikely to develop into outliers. But this group as a whole can run a WCO offense for you for a short stretch if you give them a ground game.

Second group is the "Association of QBs Who Look The Part But Probably Aren't." These are your Becks, Allars, Paytons, Robertsons, Greens, etc. Probably all backups at best as well.

I think McVay will prefer the small group because they are moreso fits for an offense like his where the chains must be moved by the QB distributing the ball underneath due to the ground game not working. But when you're talking about a guy to sit the bench and redshirt I suppose it doesn't matter, may end up being which personality do they like best as a backup.