Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?

[Da-Rock]

I can see McVay making a trade to the Bengals for Burrows.

LA -> Cinn. 1st round + Bennett + 5th round.

Cinn -> LA. Burrows + 6th round

lol!

Fan trades always give me a big smile.

We traded a boatload to the Lions to get Stafford who was a lot older and had less stats including bad playoff appearance record and no Super Bowl.

If the Bengals would take that deal every other Team in the league would offer them more to take Burrows.

 

[Merlin]

I disagree with the idea that there’s no clear cut 1. Mendoza will be that guy. QBs go at the top. Especially without some rare non QB prospect like we have with this group this year.

If Moore comes out, there is a chance someone falls for him and prefers him over Mendoza. More likely he goes somewhere in top 3-5 (if he comes out). But if it happened, then, it’ll be 1 & 2 (Mendoza 2). That’s the NFL these days.

Agreed.

I like Mendoza more than I liked Ward last year. But then I try to control my "upside muscle" when I look at QBs because it seems to me that ends up weighing too much with these guys. Also I was quite high on Dart but I don't think Dart was as strong a prospect as Mendoza is.

I like him more than I liked Williams in 2024 because Williams is a bit on the short side. Daniels and Maye who went after Williams were pretty close to Mendoza I think, because both can win from the pocket and have all the tools. Bears just fell in love with Williams.

I like him more than I liked Young in 2023, because Young is too short for my taste as a 1 overall pick. I see Young as a reach so Mendoza is a much better prospect. Stroud who went 2 overall is much more in Mendoza's class as a prospect, has all the tools, played in big games in a big program, etc. Mendoza's considerably bigger though.

2022 draft was a hot pile of shit at QB.

2021 draft was the last QB taken at 1 overall who I see as a clearly higher rated prospect than Mendoza, that being Trevor Lawrence who was undoubtedly one of the highest graded QBs in years.

So while I am no scout to my eye this dude is a legit 1 overall QB. Zero doubt about it in my mind. But as it pertains to 1 overall QBs there's a difference in the rarely graded types like Lawrence and the rest of these guys. And Mendoza is not in that rare group which means it will be possible to trade up for him.

 

[OldSchool]

Every year before the college season it's the same "This QB class is really good"

After the season it's the same thing "This QB class was a let down but next year is going to be so much better!"

Then fans convince themselves that their team should wait a year and if they do then the next year they're let down again and their team stays in one form of QB purgatory. The two kinds are you have a QB just enough to not be terrible but not good enough to lead the team to the promised land. The second kind is a team signs a vet who also isn't quite good enough in hopes that he can be a steward of the team until they get access to a good QB in the draft even though every year the draft is a let down.

Honestly I think Mendoza is a decent enough QB just like Ward was last year. Neither IMO are going to be great but they're each the best options in their year. They could grow and be a good QB or they could be that QB that's just good enough that you don't suck as a team. But the options are worse than them more often than not.

 

[HitStick]

We aren't drafting a RB.

Snead seems to love to draft backs late and has had success with it.

But possibly none more successful than the last one he drafted in Round 1

 

[den-the-coach]

Some secrets should be taken to the grave.

Being Italian, many are.

 

[rdlkgliders]

Agreed.

I like Mendoza more than I liked Ward last year. But then I try to control my "upside muscle" when I look at QBs because it seems to me that ends up weighing too much with these guys. Also I was quite high on Dart but I don't think Dart was as strong a prospect as Mendoza is.

I like him more than I liked Williams in 2024 because Williams is a bit on the short side. Daniels and Maye who went after Williams were pretty close to Mendoza I think, because both can win from the pocket and have all the tools. Bears just fell in love with Williams.

I like him more than I liked Young in 2023, because Young is too short for my taste as a 1 overall pick. I see Young as a reach so Mendoza is a much better prospect. Stroud who went 2 overall is much more in Mendoza's class as a prospect, has all the tools, played in big games in a big program, etc. Mendoza's considerably bigger though.

2022 draft was a hot pile of shit at QB.

2021 draft was the last QB taken at 1 overall who I see as a clearly higher rated prospect than Mendoza, that being Trevor Lawrence who was undoubtedly one of the highest graded QBs in years.

So while I am no scout to my eye this dude is a legit 1 overall QB. Zero doubt about it in my mind. But as it pertains to 1 overall QBs there's a difference in the rarely graded types like Lawrence and the rest of these guys. And Mendoza is not in that rare group which means it will be possible to trade up for him.

Every year before the college season it's the same "This QB class is really good"

After the season it's the same thing "This QB class was a let down but next year is going to be so much better!"

Then fans convince themselves that their team should wait a year and if they do then the next year they're let down again and their team stays in one form of QB purgatory. The two kinds are you have a QB just enough to not be terrible but not good enough to lead the team to the promised land. The second kind is a team signs a vet who also isn't quite good enough in hopes that he can be a steward of the team until they get access to a good QB in the draft even though every year the draft is a let down.

Honestly I think Mendoza is a decent enough QB just like Ward was last year. Neither IMO are going to be great but they're each the best options in their year. They could grow and be a good QB or they could be that QB that's just good enough that you don't suck as a team. But the options are worse than them more often than not.

As usual you both have good takes on this. O.S at least people are optimistic that next year will be better lol. I too can get caught up in the optimism of future QB classes and this class certainly is an example of that. It fell short a bit but 3 or 4 will go round 1 and from there who knows how they will shake out.

@Merlin I like Mendoza more than any QB since Lawrence ( I still believe in Laswrence ) Mendoza has some similarites to maye and Dart, Maye has really developed so to say Mendoza ha more upside wouldn't be fair but if you asked me which one would you take when they left School it would be Mendoza.

 

[OldSchool]

As usual you both have good takes on this. O.S at least people are optimistic that next year will be better lol. I too can get caught up in the optimism of future QB classes and this class certainly is an example of that. It fell short a bit but 3 or 4 will go round 1 and from there who knows how they will shake out.

People were very very optimistic last year about this class too like you and like you said though that's the whole point.

 

[PhillyRam]

As usual you both have good takes on this. O.S at least people are optimistic that next year will be better lol. I too can get caught up in the optimism of future QB classes and this class certainly is an example of that. It fell short a bit but 3 or 4 will go round 1 and from there who knows how they will shake out.

@Merlin I like Mendoza more than any QB since Lawrence ( I still believe in Laswrence ) Mendoza has some similarites to maye and Dart, Maye has really developed so to say Mendoza ha more upside wouldn't be fair but if you asked me which one would you take when they left School it would be Mendoza.

Yeah, I think Mendoza could be special. He seems to have that "it" factor, clutch gene, etc...

 

[Memphis Ram]

Yeah, I think Mendoza could be special. He seems to have that "it" factor, clutch gene, etc...

I wish I could see what you all see, but anything is possible.

Either way, it's extremely doubtful that the Rams or any team is going to trade multiple picks to move up to get him after their QB wins an MVP award. Not unless Stafford retires anyway.

 

[PhillyRam]

I wish I could see what you all see, but anything is possible.

Either way, it's extremely doubtful that the Rams or any team is going to trade multiple picks to move up to get him after their QB wins an MVP award. Not unless Stafford retires anyway.

Yeah, I agree with that. Barring something unforseen or they win it and he walks away, they probably try to load the roster for a two year run. Maybe take a swing at a QB in rd 3.

If Stafford does walk away, then I could see them going all in on getting Mendoza IF they like him.

 

[rdlkgliders]

I wish I could see what you all see, but anything is possible.

Either way, it's extremely doubtful that the Rams or any team is going to trade multiple picks to move up to get him after their QB wins an MVP award. Not unless Stafford retires anyway.

I am certainly not proposing that we make a move for him, more just identifying him as the best QB I have seen this year.

 

[PhillyRam]

I wish I could see what you all see, but anything is possible.

Either way, it's extremely doubtful that the Rams or any team is going to trade multiple picks to move up to get him after their QB wins an MVP award. Not unless Stafford retires anyway.

This guy sells the idea of a Goff like trade up... pointing out that you got a gift from Atlanta, so you have to use it... 14:00 mark

The other guy argues the counter point of maximizing their window with Stafford.


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/v6efSjoRCQM?si=LXOAU3mkUp3lZOwS

 

[OldSchool]

This guy sells the idea of a Goff like trade up... pointing out that you got a gift from Atlanta, so you have to use it... 14:00 mark

The other guy argues the counter point of maximizing their window with Stafford.


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/v6efSjoRCQM?si=LXOAU3mkUp3lZOwS

Is he worth 3 1st round picks? Likely what it will take to move from 9 to 1. From the imperfect trade chart currently our 2 1st round picks are 2000 points and the 1st pick is 3000.

 

[Memphis Ram]

This guy sells the idea of a Goff like trade up... pointing out that you got a gift from Atlanta, so you have to use it... 14:00 mark

The other guy argues the counter point of maximizing their window with Stafford.


View: https://www.youtube.com/live/v6efSjoRCQM?si=LXOAU3mkUp3lZOwS

Use the gift for someone like Andrew Luck? All day long, though they'd never have a chance at him. But Mendoza?

And even if Stafford retires, I'd take Garoppolo over Keenum, Foles, and Mannion group the Rams had before the Goff trade.

 

[DzRams]

Use the gift for someone like Andrew Luck? All day long, though they'd never have a chance at him. But Mendoza?

And even if Stafford retires, I'd take Garoppolo over Keenum, Foles, and Mannion group the Rams had before the Goff trade.

Luck was a generational talent. It could be argued that there no generational talents in this draft at any position so it's a false equivalence.

 

[OldSchool]

Luck was a generational talent. It could be argued that there no generational talents in this draft at any position so it's a false equivalence.

Caleb Downs would pus that argument but as far as QB's go you're right IMO.

 

[DzRams]

Caleb Downs would pus that argument but as far as QB's go you're right IMO.

Yeah, forgot about him. But to include him would be to assume that McSnead would consider drafting a safety that early. I'm skeptical of that based on their history.

I agree that there no generational QBs in this draft, but I was trying to put a finer point on it - that is to say, this draft seems light on generational talent overall.

 

[OldSchool]

Yeah, forgot about him. But to include him would be to assume that McSnead would consider drafting a safety that early. I'm skeptical of that based on their history.

I agree that there no generational QBs in this draft, but I was trying to put a finer point on it - that is to say, this draft seems light on generational talent overall.

I would think with all the free agents pending there and Lakes injury it's at least a consideration especially with it being a "free" pick and the one possible blue chip defender in the draft there.

I agree with the rest there are some really good players but few that would be considered great especially with Smith from Ohio St not draft eligible which is a crime itself. A team not needing a QB might stay at 1 to take him.

 

[12intheBox]

Feels like a WR to me - one people will think we could have had later. If the pick is 9-12 range, I’m thinking it’s Lemon.

I’d like to see a tackle and I wouldn’t hate Sadiq at all - but I think a WR is the most likely pick.

 

[DzRams]

I would think with all the free agents pending there and Lakes injury it's at least a consideration especially with it being a "free" pick and the one possible blue chip defender in the draft there.

I agree with the rest there are some really good players but few that would be considered great especially with Smith from Ohio St not draft eligible which is a crime itself. A team not needing a QB might stay at 1 to take him.

You're right on the current need. We'll see how things look after free agency. Snead typically hates going into a draft with acute needs so I think the secondary will have a lot of activity prior to April.

But, yeah, if things look like they do now, then I can see them deviating from the norm especially since he's such a talent.