Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?
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Never said they were, also never said they couldn't move on from him. Just saying it's never happened and IMO it's absolutely not likely to happen because the GM is pretty much telling his boss by doing it he should be fired. Also saying the Titans would be better off building up the roster because even if you change out QB's your team isn't very good. Oh and most importantly Ward isn't having the kind of year that would give any indication that they should move on from him.
Add to that the fans want to keep him by everything that I've seen.
And when fans discuss it there's usually a reason for it mostly because of play. Which doesn't seem to be happening here. And when fans discuss it the team is thinking about it and discussing it to for obvious reasons.
I'm going to post this: how many of you would trade our late first or late second for Cam Ward if the Titans were set on taking Mendoza?
Personally, I would do such a trade.
Personally, I would do such a trade.
A 2nd overall pick in the supplemental draft not the regular draft so not really close IMO even though it cost them a 1st overall pick the following year. Also a who QB was moved on from after Aikman who was a #1 overall pick recovered from an injury.
Obviously when I say the defining difference between the upper tier QBs and the rest are their ability to function without a run game it is assumed that no QB is perfect and can be assured to get the job done every single time without a run game. It is also assumed that the lesser tier QBs can occasionally get it done without a run game. And the quality of the defense of course factors in as well, where there is a point where a QB can only do so much.
But there is no reason to get all in the noise of those things in this conversation. The fact remains there are significant differences in QBs in their ability to function without run games. And the dependency on run game potency is a shared trait among all the lesser QBs.
Simpson may end up being outstanding in the NFL and I was extremely impressed by him a couple weeks ago. But for me personally he is right now looking like a kid who was playing way over his head early on, and who has come back down to Earth. So in evaluation was he a humble kid who was willing to sit the bench behind other QBs on that Bama team, or were his coaches concerned in projecting him vs tougher competition. In that game yesterday he made some good throws that were dropped, but he also missed a lot because his eyes dropped. So in projecting him to the NFL he is starting to look like he may drop out of that early going at the very least. And he's starting to look like <insert Shanahan QB here> who is slight of frame, requires the run game to be able to show what he can do, etc.
I was about to post this. I don't think the Titans trading Ward is a high enough possibility to be worth discussing as Oldschool has stated, but if it happens...
I think the Rams should trade their last 1st for him.
IMO, we are just back to basically the same disagreement as I believe that the dependency on the run game potency is a shared trait among the vast majority of QBs. No big deal.
And I know that no one really knows what going to happen with these kids. But I still have some confusion as how one believes Mendoza probably joins the few when we've only seen him this year with what turned out the be the 11th best rushing attack in college football (Meanwhile Alabama was 116th best).
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Giants moved into the #1 pick today. So we can thankfully, for now at least, end that what-if scenario.
And get into the Rams trading for Dart scenario.
Yeah, maybe.Giants moved into the #1 pick today. So we can thankfully, for now at least, end that what-if scenario.
And get into the Rams trading for Dart scenario.
We don't know though. Will the Giants for sure be drafting a QB?
I don't think anything is for sure with the draft. But we have a lot of time to beat this horse to death.
I would be OK if The Rams got him in the 2nd or 3rd and let him learn for 2-3 years under Stafford.
That way we can get our All Pro QB another WR and a Tackle right now.
My son made an interesting prediction. He thinks Snead could trade up with their 2nd first rd pick, trying to get two cornerstone players in the same draft.
Let's say they take a top defender like Caleb Downs in the top 10. Then maybe they then trade up into the top 20 or higher and grab a weapon for Stafford?
Maybe you trade back a few spots, but remain in the top 10, then trade back up to 17 - 18 from the late 20's pick (hopefully 32).
So maybe you grab two offensive studs in Love & Lemon or another WR that falls a little. Thinking RT is McClendon's to lose, and he keeps playing well. So not thinking OT is a high priority. Maybe a mid round developmental pick.
Anyway, I remember Snead saying his goal in 2013, the last time they had two first rd picks, was to draft 2 Hall of Fame players. He cited how the Bears got Butkus & Sayers in the same draft and that's a GMs dream.
It would also match a desire to maximize the roster talent right now in order to win in the last year or two with Stafford.
Let's say they take a top defender like Caleb Downs in the top 10. Then maybe they then trade up into the top 20 or higher and grab a weapon for Stafford?
Maybe you trade back a few spots, but remain in the top 10, then trade back up to 17 - 18 from the late 20's pick (hopefully 32).
So maybe you grab two offensive studs in Love & Lemon or another WR that falls a little. Thinking RT is McClendon's to lose, and he keeps playing well. So not thinking OT is a high priority. Maybe a mid round developmental pick.
Anyway, I remember Snead saying his goal in 2013, the last time they had two first rd picks, was to draft 2 Hall of Fame players. He cited how the Bears got Butkus & Sayers in the same draft and that's a GMs dream.
It would also match a desire to maximize the roster talent right now in order to win in the last year or two with Stafford.
I have to say.
Young didn’t look like a guy that has what it takes.
Even as a 1st year player.
He’s definitely improved, but still has a long way to go.
I can definitely see Snead doing the bolded trade down trade up move above. I recall the 2013 draft where Snead traded up for Austin and then down for Ogletree. I recall him emphasizing that in their trade down, they recouped some of the draft capital used to trade up for Austin.
Slight correction. I do believe that it was the 2014 draft - the last time they had two 1st round picks - when he talked about drafting two Hall of Fame players. He went 1 for 2 with AD.