Not sure you are understanding what you're saying here. When Owners give out big singing bonuses, It's more money out of pocket up front, which means out of the owner's pocket. Burrow is not in any way being affected by a cheap owner.
Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?
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Burrows injured again. I don't know if I want him anymore.
I am talking about a few years from now if they have to decide to give him a new deal. That's when they may have to fork over a 40M signing bonus in year 1 of a new deal.
I'd absolutely love to get Drake Maye, but I doubt the Cheatriots go for it.
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Question is who? As it was pointed out to me in another post, all the QBs that would work are on huge deals and would kill cap for the teams. Burrow, Mayfield,Lawrence. We could always stick with Jimmy for a bit as well. Who knows if Stafford is even done? If anything we need O'line BAD
Sellers is my pick so far! Im not sure about Manning yet.
I still think Snead and McVay are lurking on Burrow and Lawrence more than anyone else. Joe is injury prone, but that organization has no idea how to protect him. A cheap owner, that'll likely have a high draft pick now can easily be finessed into giving up on their franchise QB.
And cheap owners are reluctant to give guaranteed money because they have to hold that money until it’s paid out. Most contracts these days are gauged by how much money is guaranteed.
I’ll admit to not paying attention to the Bungles contract structures. But if ownership is trying to go “cheap” on guarantees for positions other teams are not, it can give the perception that they’re not all about winning.
How long does an elite player stay with a team if he feels he has no chance at a championship? I suppose it depends on the player. Maybe Burrows is not going to settle for no championship window and force a trade - especially if he thinks he can play for McVay.
I’m not expecting it but I’m also not quite as sure as you seem to be that it could never happen.
I agree ... especially about Burrow.
There was a stat put-out yesterday about O-Line Pass-Block Win Rate; and every year since 2020 (Burrow's rookie season) the Bengals have been at or near the bottom.
Also not sure about the injury-prone label, given how much he gets hit.
The most serious injury was to his knee, and that was in 2020. Since then, it's been a calf, wrist and toe.
Generally, I think it's a waste-of-time to dream about elite quarterbacks becoming available but there are exceptions. Barring a fast recovery and him leading the Bengals into the playoffs, this will be a third-straight frustrating and disappointing season for Burrow. One more in 2026, and he could very well want-out.
Certainly doesn't mean the Bengals oblige any request, or that the Rams could make the best offer. However, I would assume Cincinnati would want him out of the AFC; and the Rams have proven themselves to be an aggressive organization.
Clearly there would be Salary Cap ramifications (for both teams) but I can see it happening (in 2027).
By-the-way, I can also see myself with Sidney Sweeney so maybe I don't have the most realistic fantasies.
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Drafting any QB, for that matter drafting any player, is a crapshoot.
But there is still a huge difference between the 1st and 2nd round. The success rate of QBs from round 1 to round 2 is ginormous.
Additionally, there's a huge difference between picks 1-15 and 16-32. And there's a huge difference between 1-5 and 6-10.
Bottom line: if the Rams need a QB you don't wait until the 2nd round.
When the contracts are signed, extended, restructured etc, the player receives their cash in bonus monies, therefore the money is spent. The dead monies associated is money the owner already paid out. So when moving a player like Burrow, the team takes a dead cap hit in order to move him. So I dont see where a "cheap" owner is moving a player who he's already paid out
Alas, I just look at the history of things and the Stafford trade is like finding Kurt Warner or drafting a QB in the 6th round who cheats his way to 7 SB ring. So far from the norm
I thought the owner had to hold the guaranteed money in essentially a trust. Then the player would receive those guaranteed moneys over a structured period whether he’s on the team or not. My understanding was that the player didn’t receive all guaranteed funds in a lump payoff. In essence, it’s almost the same thing for the owner as he has to have that money on hand or available specifically to pay that contract. That is the reason I have heard that owners with more limited funds don’t like big guarantees.
I was starting to type that I'd go for:
1st round - OT
1st round (trade up) - QB
But I'm not sure who will be left after pick 10... there are MANY teams who'll want in on a 1st round QB in '26.
We just need to go up & get the best QB we can at the highest pick we can. I don't see any other way, unless somehow we can pry a true NFL starting QB like Mayfield or Lawrence away from their teams.
