He did elevate that team to a quarter final. Or was he at fault for their defense too
Which QB should the Rams draft in the 1st Round next year?
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If we draft their RB Miller then I will be disappointed! Simpson not so much
IDK, every time I watched Simpson he looked ordinary and that's being optimistic. Indiana game might not be fair because they destroyed most QB's. When I watch him I don't think NFL starter, I think NFL backup, but that is JMHO.He did elevate that team to a quarter final. Or was he at fault for their defense too
Yeah. That's basically what I see in his game. But I'd even go so far as to say that I think Bennett is a better option at back-up - especially at this point in time.
Just out of curiosity, are there current NFL starters that you saw the same way?
Not trying to be funny, but I'm wondering if we are looking for the next Stafford, Mahomes, Allen, or Rodgers in comparison. You know, rare types that aren't available every year.
Would a Baker Mayfield or Brock Purdy type be good enough to past muster? Especially with Sean McVay as coach?
That's fair, when I watched Mayfield I had him as boarderline #1 as to Brock Purdy, I thought he was a weak arm, light weight, flying purple people eater. Seriously, did not think that highly of Purdy and although many had him rated as a sleeper, I felt he was more like a Brett Rypien for example.
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Well, I for one was a fan of Purdy coming out of school, and of course Dart was a player crush of mine for 2 years.
That said, I also thought Clayton Tune was going to be a stud so there's that....
That said, I also thought Clayton Tune was going to be a stud so there's that....
I liked Dart too, just was not 100% sure on him as to Clayton Tune, I think I liked his name more then his game.
I thought Mayfield was a horrible #1 overall selection and never gave Purdy a single thought.
While I would love for the Rams to nab the next rare prototype superstar, I'm leaning more towards realistic available options that look like potential strong fits for what I've seen with McVay thus far.
I guess in my mind, if McVay is so good, the Rams shouldn't have to send a buttload of picks elsewhere to nab an elite veteran QB or prospect.
I will trust McVay and the FO and agree I would rather go CB, OT, WR before QB in the draft. Not sure if there is sleeper QB with some upside, but I don't like going that way. Maybe just wait for 2027 draft as many more will come out and at that point, you can identify your guy and make a move to go get him.
I feel any QB who gets to spend a year under the tutelage of McVay/Stafford will gain an education and experience that the college guys cant possibly replicate
When McVay moved off of Goff he was quoted as saying he didn't want to live underneath, paraphrasing. I think McVay is a rare example of a WCO mind who can use the scheme to move the ball with short passes but prefers to stretch it vertically.
So two things that I am certain are required for him when he looks at a QB are a "strong enough" arm, and perhaps more importantly the ballsack to keep eyes on the deep routes without being easily intimidated into dumpoffs. Of course also intelligence is important, I don't think he can deal with a stupid MFer and he flat out won't draft one of those types who are more athlete than brains. But since that Goff divorce I always look for the QBs who keep their eyes downfield. Dart for example did that, his tape showed pockets breaking down while he kept his eyes downfield even when he was sliding or repositioning in the pocket, and he had enough arm to get it there though not the cannon you want in that top group.
As it pertains to high picks in the draft they generally need to have a live arm. There are years where teams just take what is there and you end up with Mayfield, Young, etc. Though in both those examples' cases they are looking like starting QBs. But in terms of what means high pick generally it's the combination of all the tools plus the sample size plus good performance in Senior Bowl and interacting with teams in interviews. Thus McVay needing guys who can stretch it means he's going to need a guy who goes round 1-2 most likely, as the QBs with the strongest arms and upside, even if they're a bit raw, tend to go earlier than later. This league romanticizes upside.
It's an interesting question though to ask what McVay thinks of height. I can't recall him discussing that specifically with QBs and they took Bennett. So maybe he's not as concerned about it. I am sure that all things being equal he'd want the bigger QB. Just like with mobility, certainly he would prefer a QB who can move the chains when it's there with his legs, or scramble drill to buy time to throw deep, but I don't think he's going to prioritize those things over the more important elements of having that competitive drive and enough arm to open up the deep parts of the field, i.e. win from the pocket.
So two things that I am certain are required for him when he looks at a QB are a "strong enough" arm, and perhaps more importantly the ballsack to keep eyes on the deep routes without being easily intimidated into dumpoffs. Of course also intelligence is important, I don't think he can deal with a stupid MFer and he flat out won't draft one of those types who are more athlete than brains. But since that Goff divorce I always look for the QBs who keep their eyes downfield. Dart for example did that, his tape showed pockets breaking down while he kept his eyes downfield even when he was sliding or repositioning in the pocket, and he had enough arm to get it there though not the cannon you want in that top group.
As it pertains to high picks in the draft they generally need to have a live arm. There are years where teams just take what is there and you end up with Mayfield, Young, etc. Though in both those examples' cases they are looking like starting QBs. But in terms of what means high pick generally it's the combination of all the tools plus the sample size plus good performance in Senior Bowl and interacting with teams in interviews. Thus McVay needing guys who can stretch it means he's going to need a guy who goes round 1-2 most likely, as the QBs with the strongest arms and upside, even if they're a bit raw, tend to go earlier than later. This league romanticizes upside.
It's an interesting question though to ask what McVay thinks of height. I can't recall him discussing that specifically with QBs and they took Bennett. So maybe he's not as concerned about it. I am sure that all things being equal he'd want the bigger QB. Just like with mobility, certainly he would prefer a QB who can move the chains when it's there with his legs, or scramble drill to buy time to throw deep, but I don't think he's going to prioritize those things over the more important elements of having that competitive drive and enough arm to open up the deep parts of the field, i.e. win from the pocket.
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I think the Rams offensive system can turn a lot of QBs like a Brock Purdy into very good players.
Exactly. The chances that our next QB is anywhere near as good as a veteran Matt Stafford, that is next to impossible.
Simpson has been compared to Purdy, and he got to a SB. Hurts to me is a slightly above average QB skill wise, who had great work habits. He got to two SBs, won one, and did so by being a guy who made some plays, but was carried by a complete team.
Thats the kind of roster we will need post Stafford. Matt Stafford 2.0 is not walking through that door anytime soon. Any freak QB talent will likley not be attainable unless the Rams tank a season.
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I don't see McVay as a magician that can make chicken salad out of chicken shit. He still needs talented players.
It's a tough ask to require these teams to maintain those types of rosters.
Purdy went to SBs while he was on a rookie contract. That means they had a ton of money for the rest of the roster. We'll see if they can make SB appearances or even win one while he cost $53 mil. per year.
Same with Hurts, but they did win last year while he was on an expensive contract. The reason for that is because 1) the Eagles may be the best drafting team in the league, and 2) they're borrowing from future cap space more than any other team right now. At some point, the chickens will come home to roost.
I guess I'm saying that I feel it would be good if the Rams did send a buttload of picks elsewhere to nab an ELITE veteran QB or prospect.
I don't think they have a strong chance to contend for SBs every year without an elite guy.
IMO, if Shanahan can (Garoppolo, Purdy) then McVay should be able to do so.
Otherwise, he's not the great offensive mind / difference maker everyone makes out.