So what would you like to see from the Rams Quarterback Matthew Stafford in order to consider this trade a success?
Consistent QB play with minimal mistakes that allows the coaches to continue to evolve and enhance the O without having to worry about protecting the QB, then having to worry about a TO when he goes to execute the perfect play drawn up for him. Coach shouldn't have to do the same bootleg to protect him, eliminate half the field, and have a single receiver to target...only for him to throw the pick anyway. Ugh.
That's the difference from a playoff team to a SB contender and MS should be able to do that. I fully expect that MS will throw some picks in his own right, but my reaction should be surprise, rather than expectation of said turnovers.
Goff seems to get all of the credit when it comes to 2018, despite his inability to read adjustments from the defenses after McVay’s Mike cute out.
I’d wager that it was more about McVays offense and teams struggling to catch up to it defensively, coupled with a lot of time behind an Oline protecting him well. Take away both advantages and he’s just a JAG, which he’s proven.
I was very happy when the Rams picked him, but it didn’t work out. He’s not what we hoped for.
He absolutely should get credit. He regressed for a multitude of reasons after the Chiefs game that year and became stagnant. Where did he develop more in the games and seasons after? Not many.
How about those of us hanging on to the "we had zero winning seasons in the 12 years before Goff and he led us to four winning seasons in five years as our QB"? I've had more than enough of people shitting on the guy. He never did a thing to disrespect this franchise as our QB. He played through injuries. He stood tall even when taking beatings. He behaved himself off the field. And he helped us win football games. The Rams made the decision to trade him. That's their right.
Regardless of the break-up, I like Goff, I appreciate what he did as our QB, and I'm tired of people spewing bullshit about him. It reminds me of how many in this fanbase treated Kurt. You can celebrate Stafford without talking bad about Goff or saying things that are patently false. I've been trying to hold my tongue after the way things blew up here following the trade. But I don't think it's too much to ask for people to not bash Goff in every Stafford thread. This thread topic asks what Stafford needs to do to make the trade worth it, not why Jared Goff is a shitty liability who prevented this team from achieving more.
Finally, I'll reiterate that Goff has been a young QB his entire time here. Inconsistent play and statistical regression are completely normal for pocket passers his age. Go look at Stafford's career. He sucked as a rookie. Made a huge leap in years two and three (but was injured for most of year two). Then, he regressed and played mediocre football the next three years. He didn't become the QB he is today with any consistency until he was 27 years old (which is normal for a pocket passer). Goff is still 26 years old.
I won't complain because the Rams didn't want to wait and see on Goff. They think their window is limited. That's fine. That's their call. But this is the reality of having a young pocket passer as your QB. I've said that for years. It is what it is. I hope we win a Super Bowl. I hope this trade works out for us. And I hope some people in this fanbase give the Goff slander a rest. The dude hasn't earned it. And a good chunk of us don't appreciate it. Now, we can get back to talking about Stafford.
Normally I just scroll right by your posts b/c I know better to than to get into a long-winded argument when one disagrees with you. So this is my one and only response to you.
First - get over it when someone criticizes Jared Goff. It aint some vendetta against him.
Second - I don't care about the 12 yrs prior; has absolutely zero to do with the last couple years and next year.
Third - 2019 and 2020 he slowly became a liability; if you sat there during the games with full confidence knowing he wouldn't throw a pick, or cough up the ball when he took a sack, especially towards the end of the year (i.e., the most important months to seal your playoff destiny....then you sure had a helluva lot more confidence than me. He had SEVEN INTs alone in the last 6 games. That is NOT good. All they had to do was the beat the damn Jets and they were in.
Instead, they had to scrape and claw to win with a backup QB in Week 17. They were THIS close to missing out on the playoffs altogether. IDK about you, but I have MUCH higher expectations for the 5th year professional QB. Any QB, and I expect MS to exceed those.
Finally - This is not shitting on a QB or "slander" or whatever else you want to call it. I'm not happy with regression. I'm not happy seeing the team lose to bottom feeders like the Jets or a team with Nick Mullens at QB on a team full of backups.
Again, get over it. I find it really weird people are so sensitive when it comes to JG. I can almost hear the violin playing when you tell me I should appreciate him for what he's done. He's had moments and even seasons, absolutely. Those days were gone starting in 2019 with no signs of improvement through December 2020. I can only give him so many passes, so screw it. He's a pro QB that's regressed and the pro team that had him decided they wanted more. Plain and simple.
