What Saints Fans Are Saying

[dolphinlover123]

The premise of this article is that " big people beat up little people." I would counter that with "speed kills." The article also claims that Saints players are not only bigger than Rams players but also faster. In my experience a shorter, lighter man can usually outrun a bigger, heavier man. But that's just me.

Plus when matched up against a bigger, stronger opponent, there are certain strategies which can be used to come out victorious. I'm guessing McVay and Phillips have already implemented those strategies into their game plan.
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Bigger, Faster, Stronger: Saints’ have advantage vs Rams thanks to changes Payton made after return in 13’.
The Los Angeles Rams have a team full of “exceptions” and that bodes well for New Orleans
By ElliasJWilliams

It’s been said that the Rams are like a younger version of the Saints, specifically they borrow from the 06-09 iterations of the team.

From the 09’ team the dynamic between Wade Phillips and Sean McVay is very easily comparable to that of Asshole Face and Gregg Williams in that all are aggressive coaches.

Well minus the drama

Offensively they are lead by a young gun slinger in Jared Goff who has a knack for getting the ball to the open receivers that McVay schemes up within his system, and is adept at pushing the ball downfield on the called shot plays.

Heck, one Todd Gurley equals the combination of a healthy 06’ Deuce McCallister and Reggie Bush.

Defensively they are lead by a talented defensive line that is headlined by star defensive tackle Aaron Donald who wrecks games in a way that former Saints 1st round pick Sedrick Ellis was meant to.

I almost feel like Blades tagline fits here “All of their strengths, but none of their weaknesses”.

Keyword there is ALMOST

Inherently they actually suffer from a few of the same issues New Orleans suffered through during that time and the biggest issue is their lack of size, and simply put - big people beat up little people.

In the midst of his bounty gate suspension Sean would have a conversation with mentor Bill Parcells and return with a bigger, faster, stronger mantra as it pertained to drafting and free agent acquisitions.

Every now and again New Orleans will make an exception(Brandin Cooks and Sheldon Rankins), but it’s rare because, as Parcells often said, if you let a few in, pretty soon you’ll have a team full of them. In order for an “exception” to win them over he must have an overwhelming trait available that compensates for what would be considered short comings (no pun intended).

In respects to the aforementioned, it would be speed for Cooks, and intelligence/character for Rankins and as it pertains to the former he is now the feature wide receiver on a Los Angeles Rams team who’s cup runneth over with exceptions.

He joins Robert Woods (both under 200 lbs) as undersized speed threats on the offensive side of the ball. Conversely, New Orleans doesn’t have a corner on the roster under 6’0 195 lbs with the exception of Crawley.

That same problem also manifest on the defensive side of the ball where both Rams’ inside line backers Mark Barron (a former safety) and Corey Littleton barely tip the scales at 230 lbs. Aaron Donald, while amazing, is only 290 lbs (small for a defensive tackle) and their free safety Lemarcus Joyner is 5’8 191.

I’ll say it again, big people beat up little people.

Payton’s teams of old were considered finesse for a reason and while a lot of it had to do with style of play there was a tiny singe of it that had to do with how the team was built. They just weren’t physically imposing to go along with not really playing a physical brand of football.

It was those teams that would go against NFC North or AFC North squads like the Bears and Ravens and get squashed because stylistically they weren’t great matches.

Guess what brand of ball the Rams play?

Am I saying it’s a significant advantage? No...because there are guys like Cooks (who burned Rams for 2 TD’s in 2016), Barry Sanders, Darren Sproles, Sam Mills, and Tyrann Mathieu that make you look at and value smaller players a differently

Still, David triumphing over Goliath is such a miraculous tale simply because the feat doesn’t happen very much.

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.c...s-saints-vs-los-angeles-rams-bold-predictions

New Orleans Saints vs Los Angeles Rams: Bold Predictions
Here are our bold predictions - what are yours?
By Chris Dunnells

It’s a pretty common occurrence for fans and analysts to make bold predictions about a game or season. If the prediction doesn’t come true, then that’s OK - you said it was bold! If it DOES come true, though... now you look like a genius!

So in that spirit, some of the Canal Street Chronicles writers were asked to share with me a bold prediction or two for the Week 9 of the regular season for the New Orleans Saints: a battle of offensive juggernauts, a fight against the offensive juggernaut that is the Los Angeles Rams. This is their chance to look brilliant!

Here are a few of the bold predictions provided by some of the contributors at Canal Street Chronicles:

• Below Average - Rams are held to less than 30 points. (Chad)
• Back-to-Back - PJ Williams has his second straight game with an interception. (Chris)
• By Air - Alvin Kamara has over 100 receiving yards. (Don)
• Not my MVP - Todd Gurley is held under 100 rushing yards. (Chad)
• Apple of our Eye - Eli Apple records his first interception in New Orleans. (Bob)
• Taysom Time - Taysom Hill is the only Saints QB to throw for a TD in the win. (Tee)
• Big D - Saints defense scores a touchdown. (Chad)
• Rookie Dominance - Tre’Quan Smith has over 100 receiving yards. (Don)
• Sack City - Saints D sacks Jared Goff 4 times. (Bob)

Here are my three bold predictions for the game:

• Over 80 total points are scored this week by the two teams.
• There isn’t a single turnover by either team.
• Teddy Bridgewater completes a pass.

That saints’ bigger players > rams’ smaller players article is probably the one of the dumbest things I’ve read.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Well, in fairness, GB had the ball at the end of the fourth with over 2 minutes left, 1 timeout, down by only 2 points, and coughed it up on the KO return. Had that not happened, I would give AR at least a 50/50 chance of pulling out the win, probably better. Rams only "lucky" win of the season?

https://boards.atlantafalcons.com/t...-a-winning-record-and-more-fascinating-stats/

Just rewatched last years game, the Rams were in control of that game from the start. I dont see NO being able to stop Gurley and the passing game, maybe one or the other but not both. Maybe some pitches to Gurley, he reminds me of ED when he takes the pitch and outruns the D to the corner and gets to the secondary. I'd like to see Cooks get some deep shots and torch his former team that traded him because they didnt want to pay him. Peters needs to stay focused and not watch Brees so much. Gurley will have a big day as usual, torching that NO D that wont be the top ranked run D after tomorrow.

Some Saints fans claim that Cooks was more interested in himself than his job. Strange because I don't see it.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Some Saints fans claim that Cooks was more interested in himself than his job. Strange because I don't see it.

he wasn't targeted in a game or two. or three. he voiced his displeasure at not being targeted. this is where those claims originated from and we can see it's complete bullshit.

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[jrry32]

The premise of this article is that " big people beat up little people." I would counter that with "speed kills." The article also claims that Saints players are not only bigger than Rams players but also faster. In my experience a shorter, lighter man can usually outrun a bigger, heavier man. But that's just me.

Plus when matched up against a bigger, stronger opponent, there are certain strategies which can be used to come out victorious. I'm guessing McVay and Phillips have already implemented those strategies into their game plan.
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Bigger, Faster, Stronger: Saints’ have advantage vs Rams thanks to changes Payton made after return in 13’.
The Los Angeles Rams have a team full of “exceptions” and that bodes well for New Orleans
By ElliasJWilliams

It’s been said that the Rams are like a younger version of the Saints, specifically they borrow from the 06-09 iterations of the team.

From the 09’ team the dynamic between Wade Phillips and Sean McVay is very easily comparable to that of Asshole Face and Gregg Williams in that all are aggressive coaches.

Well minus the drama

Offensively they are lead by a young gun slinger in Jared Goff who has a knack for getting the ball to the open receivers that McVay schemes up within his system, and is adept at pushing the ball downfield on the called shot plays.

Heck, one Todd Gurley equals the combination of a healthy 06’ Deuce McCallister and Reggie Bush.

Defensively they are lead by a talented defensive line that is headlined by star defensive tackle Aaron Donald who wrecks games in a way that former Saints 1st round pick Sedrick Ellis was meant to.

I almost feel like Blades tagline fits here “All of their strengths, but none of their weaknesses”.

Keyword there is ALMOST

Inherently they actually suffer from a few of the same issues New Orleans suffered through during that time and the biggest issue is their lack of size, and simply put - big people beat up little people.

In the midst of his bounty gate suspension Sean would have a conversation with mentor Bill Parcells and return with a bigger, faster, stronger mantra as it pertained to drafting and free agent acquisitions.

Every now and again New Orleans will make an exception(Brandin Cooks and Sheldon Rankins), but it’s rare because, as Parcells often said, if you let a few in, pretty soon you’ll have a team full of them. In order for an “exception” to win them over he must have an overwhelming trait available that compensates for what would be considered short comings (no pun intended).

In respects to the aforementioned, it would be speed for Cooks, and intelligence/character for Rankins and as it pertains to the former he is now the feature wide receiver on a Los Angeles Rams team who’s cup runneth over with exceptions.

He joins Robert Woods (both under 200 lbs) as undersized speed threats on the offensive side of the ball. Conversely, New Orleans doesn’t have a corner on the roster under 6’0 195 lbs with the exception of Crawley.

That same problem also manifest on the defensive side of the ball where both Rams’ inside line backers Mark Barron (a former safety) and Corey Littleton barely tip the scales at 230 lbs. Aaron Donald, while amazing, is only 290 lbs (small for a defensive tackle) and their free safety Lemarcus Joyner is 5’8 191.

I’ll say it again, big people beat up little people.

Payton’s teams of old were considered finesse for a reason and while a lot of it had to do with style of play there was a tiny singe of it that had to do with how the team was built. They just weren’t physically imposing to go along with not really playing a physical brand of football.

It was those teams that would go against NFC North or AFC North squads like the Bears and Ravens and get squashed because stylistically they weren’t great matches.

Guess what brand of ball the Rams play?

Am I saying it’s a significant advantage? No...because there are guys like Cooks (who burned Rams for 2 TD’s in 2016), Barry Sanders, Darren Sproles, Sam Mills, and Tyrann Mathieu that make you look at and value smaller players a differently

Still, David triumphing over Goliath is such a miraculous tale simply because the feat doesn’t happen very much.

This is legitimately one of the dumbest articles I have ever read. I hope nobody pays the author to write about football because he knows fuck all about the game. First of all, the idea that big people beat up little people is a farce. Give me a fucking DL of Aaron Donald, Geno Atkins, and Jurrell Casey with Von Miller and Khalil Mack at OLB, and my little people will make an absolute mockery of any of your OLs full of big people. Aaron Donald routinely manhandles "big people."

Second of all, our team isn't a bunch of little people, you twit. Michael Brockers and Ndamukong Suh are both "big people" who are among the strongest players at their position (as is Donald). Cory Littleton isn't barely 230 pounds. Screw his listed weight. The man came out of college at 6'3" 238. I feel quite confident that he plays in the 240+ pound range, and that dude has no issue taking on blockers. Our OL is massive. Saffold, Whitworth, and Hav are all huge. Sullivan is above average for his position. Blythe is the only light player for his position.

Third of all, our WRs might not be large, but we have arguably the best trio in the game. Who cares what their weight is? Bruce, Holt, and Proehl/Az weren't big either. That didn't stop them from running circles around the NFL. Good luck to your big CBs in shutting down our WRs. The worst matchup for big CBs generally is a smaller, quicker WR. Marshon Lattimore is a hell of a CB and athlete. He will make it hard on Cooks, but Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods can eat against the Saints #2 and #3 CBs.

What a dumb premise. I shouldn't even respond to such an idiotic opinion.

 

[UKram]

In all the hoopla of goff vs Brees .. offense vs Defense .. big vs little Sean vs Sean

Ain’t no one talking about special teams and I don’t care what anyone says out special teams are the best in the game ... we usually get one big play a game out of them .. a block a fake punt .. a down led punt at the one

Don’t sleep on coach bones and his boys

 

[shovelpass]

Brees= little people

Also, I don't see the Rams as a "finesse" team. We have the ability to dominate on both sides of the line. Does a finesse team lead the league in rushing by a wide margin?

 

[jap]

he wasn't targeted in a game or two. or three. he voiced his displeasure at not being targeted. this is where those claims originated from and we can see it's complete bullcrap.

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Brandin also complained that Drew at times placed him in dangerous situations on deep tosses where Brees had too much air under the rock, providing DBs with opportunities to tee off on Cooks' small frame. This is less of a problem with Jared and his stronger arm as he can gun the rock out there with greater power and finesse touch to thwart most DB attempts to whale our Warp 5 roadrunner. Unfortunately, one of the 'Hawks' DBs took advantage of one of these lesser opportunities to drill Brandin a few games back, resulting in a concussion for our Little Big Man. Hopefully, Brandin will get chances to scorch the 'Hawks's secondary next weekend.

 

[Ram65]

Bigger, Faster, Stronger: Saints’ have advantage vs Rams thanks to changes Payton made after return in 13’.
The Los Angeles Rams have a team full of “exceptions” and that bodes well for New Orleans
By ElliasJWilliams

It’s been said that the Rams are like a younger version of the Saints, specifically they borrow from the 06-09 iterations of the team.

From the 09’ team the dynamic between Wade Phillips and Sean McVay is very easily comparable to that of Asshole Face and Gregg Williams in that all are aggressive coaches.

Well minus the drama

Offensively they are lead by a young gun slinger in Jared Goff who has a knack for getting the ball to the open receivers that McVay schemes up within his system, and is adept at pushing the ball downfield on the called shot plays.

Heck, one Todd Gurley equals the combination of a healthy 06’ Deuce McCallister and Reggie Bush.

Defensively they are lead by a talented defensive line that is headlined by star defensive tackle Aaron Donald who wrecks games in a way that former Saints 1st round pick Sedrick Ellis was meant to.

I almost feel like Blades tagline fits here “All of their strengths, but none of their weaknesses”.

Keyword there is ALMOST

Inherently they actually suffer from a few of the same issues New Orleans suffered through during that time and the biggest issue is their lack of size, and simply put - big people beat up little people.

In the midst of his bounty gate suspension Sean would have a conversation with mentor Bill Parcells and return with a bigger, faster, stronger mantra as it pertained to drafting and free agent acquisitions.

Every now and again New Orleans will make an exception(Brandin Cooks and Sheldon Rankins), but it’s rare because, as Parcells often said, if you let a few in, pretty soon you’ll have a team full of them. In order for an “exception” to win them over he must have an overwhelming trait available that compensates for what would be considered short comings (no pun intended).

In respects to the aforementioned, it would be speed for Cooks, and intelligence/character for Rankins and as it pertains to the former he is now the feature wide receiver on a Los Angeles Rams team who’s cup runneth over with exceptions.

He joins Robert Woods (both under 200 lbs) as undersized speed threats on the offensive side of the ball. Conversely, New Orleans doesn’t have a corner on the roster under 6’0 195 lbs with the exception of Crawley.

That same problem also manifest on the defensive side of the ball where both Rams’ inside line backers Mark Barron (a former safety) and Corey Littleton barely tip the scales at 230 lbs. Aaron Donald, while amazing, is only 290 lbs (small for a defensive tackle) and their free safety Lemarcus Joyner is 5’8 191.

I’ll say it again, big people beat up little people.

Payton’s teams of old were considered finesse for a reason and while a lot of it had to do with style of play there was a tiny singe of it that had to do with how the team was built. They just weren’t physically imposing to go along with not really playing a physical brand of football.

It was those teams that would go against NFC North or AFC North squads like the Bears and Ravens and get squashed because stylistically they weren’t great matches.

Guess what brand of ball the Rams play?

Am I saying it’s a significant advantage? No...because there are guys like Cooks (who burned Rams for 2 TD’s in 2016), Barry Sanders, Darren Sproles, Sam Mills, and Tyrann Mathieu that make you look at and value smaller players a differently

Still, David triumphing over Goliath is such a miraculous tale simply because the feat doesn’t happen very much.

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.c...s-saints-vs-los-angeles-rams-bold-predictions

Where are all the examples? I was looking for the changes that the Saints made in drafting. The Rams can be pushed around with Barron and Littleton inside. They also make plays. Last week the Packers got away with holding on the Cooks. I expect all the Rams to be ready for physical play.

 

[LesBaker]

The thing I've noticed about this Rams team is how even keel they are.

Almost every team we have played this season come out all fired up on adrenaline. As the game wears on, their adrenaline wanes and the Rams just steadily go about their business and gut punch them and notch another W.

The GSOE team was the same way.

Strap on their gear and go to work.

Gotta love it

Gotta Go To Work was their rally cry remember?


View: https://www.amazon.com/Gotta-Go-Work-Unforgettable-Championship/dp/1572433639

I’ve noticed that as well. We just wear teams down. And with a target on our back, it’s even more impressive.

Gurley talked about the 4th quarter in one of the videos posted here where he was interviewed. He basically said that nobody was better conditioned than the Rams and that's part of the reason why they have won some close games.

 

[Farr Be It]

Offensively they are lead by a young gun slinger in Jared Goff who has a knack for getting the ball to the open receivers that McVay schemes up within his system, and is adept at pushing the ball downfield on the called shot plays.

I have never seen a guy positioned as “a puppet-doing-the-work of the ACTUAL talent, Sean McVay,” as much as I have with Jared Goff.

Jared makes some of the most amazing, well placed, well-timed passes I have ever seen, every week. Dimes. Elite. He is not just “throwing to open receivers.” He is throwing them open. Did you see that TD to Reynolds? Amazing.

Sean McVay is awesome. But he should count his blessings he has this talented a leader to execute his offense. Sooo many lesser quarterbacks that start in this league that would not be 8-0.

 

[…..]

The premise of this article is that " big people beat up little people." I would counter that with "speed kills." The article also claims that Saints players are not only bigger than Rams players but also faster. In my experience a shorter, lighter man can usually outrun a bigger, heavier man. But that's just me.

Plus when matched up against a bigger, stronger opponent, there are certain strategies which can be used to come out victorious. I'm guessing McVay and Phillips have already implemented those strategies into their game plan.
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I cant believe a reputable publication like the Canal Street Chronicals would allow such a biased article to go to print!

 

[LesBaker]

I have never seen a guy positioned as “a puppet-doing-the-work of the ACTUAL talent, Sean McVay,” as much as I have with Jared Goff.

Jared makes some of the most amazing, well placed, well-timed passes I have ever seen, every week. Dimes. Elite. He is not just “throwing to open receivers.” He is throwing them open. Did you see that TD to Reynolds? Amazing.

Sean McVay is awesome. But he should count his blessings he has this talented a leader to execute his offense. Sooo many lesser quarterbacks that start in this league that would not be 8-0.

This almost deserves it's own thread. It's that BIG of a deal to a lot of us.

I'm SO fucking sick and tired of that narrative. Goff and McVay are NOT the only QB/HC or OC tandem that communicate to the 15 second mark. It's been done since the beginning and only an idiot wouldn't talk to the QB as much as possible. The defense substitutes A LOT while the offense is in the huddle and I'm guessing every time on every play the QB is getting alerted about the change.

And to your point about the throws..........early on there were some critics of Warner saying that the reason he was lighting it up was Martz's offense. My memory is far from perfect but I think I remember Tom Jackson's reply to someone that said that.

"Someone still has to throw the ball". Perfect response to that.

Now for some reason the stuff about Warner wasn't as widespread, and you would think it would be, but the storyline was how he came out of nowhere. And of course the internet was different then too. Goff is the #1 overall pick with loads of scrutiny and a shit ton of the guys who are on sports radio and TV dismissed him after his rookie year. So this framework has become their cushion, a crutch even. I can't think of any of them that have retracted and Louis Riddick actually called them out on it.

Riddick is a very, very smart guy and knows the game up and down. You'll love this video.



Now watch this one with McVay saying "Well you feel a lot better about it when you have guys like him executing these plays. The players make them come to life" when he is asked about how he feels when sending in a play. Watch him describe the go ahead TD versus Dallas last year.......... @Rynie are you there? That was a PERFECT pass. McVay was on the sidelines. Goff threw the ball.



There is a difference between accurate QB's and QB's that are precise. Goff is developing into a precise passer. We haven't seen the best of him yet and all of the idiots who said he was a bust will enjoy the crow.

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

I agree that our division is weak. Seahawks, 49ers, and Cardinals all blow real hard lol

Seahawks look like they have turned things around though after getting off to a bad start.they went toe to toe with us earlier,they will be no pushover next time we face them either.expect another hard faught close game.

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

Had problems with noise? Are they on crack? Seattle is much louder than New Orleans. Even they couldn't slow down our offense.

we have a winner here.LOO.

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

I want this one more than I probably should.

this is the one i was concerned about.If they lose this one,Im okay with it.we'll face them again in the playoffs and win the IMPORTANT round.

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

" I have a feeling the Rams won’t be recognizable in 2 years from what we see today and the Seahawks will continue to lead the division. That’s my guess...."


This guy is the greatest

oh my he should start a comedy club,that is some funny shit.LOL

 

[RamzFanz]

https://boards.atlantafalcons.com/t...-a-winning-record-and-more-fascinating-stats/

I would have never guessed that. Good point.

 

[KCLARAM FAN]

I would have never guessed that. Good point.

wow that is very interesting,i dont think any of us would have guessed that.