http://www.thehogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=40509
Redskins vs. Rams Pregame
I know this is early but maybe we need to look forward for a change.
So let's look back ever so briefly. This is the team we gave a bunch of picks.
They are starting to gel. We are sucking hind tit. The dynamic would be really strange if Griff were starting.
I feel we dissed Colt and the locker room by not starting him after we beat Dallas. He settled down against IND after a rough start and did some good things.
I'm hoping our guys are looking forward to kickoff and come out with a little fire. RAM just played the perfect game while we would've been beaten deep by seniors in wheel chairs. This is a bad spot for the visitors and a good spot for us. After all, how does RAM get up for crappy WAS who isn't even playing RGIII???
I might go since tickets are $3.00.
What do we have to do and can/will we do it?
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We need help from the Bionic Man or a Miracle, otherwise the chances are slim and none.
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I am bracing myself for all the infographics FOX is going to indulge in talking about the RGIII trade. Yay.
For reference, here are the final results of that deal:
Skins got #2 pick - RGIII
Rams got:
2012:
#14 Michael Brockers, DT [starter, good]
#39 Janoris Jenkins, CB [starter, not good]
#50 Isaiah Pead, RB [suspended / cut]
#150 Rokevious Watkins, G [waived]
2013
#30 Alec Ogletree, LB [starter, good]
#92 Stedman Bailey, WR [backup]
#198* Zac Stacy, RB [backup]
* (Zac Stacy pick came from a trade that included a pick not derived from Skins picks.)
2014
#2 Greg Robinson, OT [starter]
Or, if you just look at the picks themselves and not all of the trades that came out of them:
‘12 #6 - Morris Claiborne, CB [bust]
‘12 #39 - Janoris Jenkins, CB [starter, not good]
‘13 #22 - Desmond Trufant, CB [starter, very good]
‘14 #2 - Greg Robinson, LT [starter]
From my perspective, the only thing that makes that trade look bad in retrospect is the fact that RGIII appears not to have worked out. If he was a decent-to-good long-term starter already, I'd have said that we pretty clearly won out on the deal. A very good quarterback is worth more than a package including a Pro Bowl starter, a solid starter, a replaceable player, and a bust. He's also worth more than a few good DLs/LBs with a forgettable lineup of "Who's that?"s.
So, say what you want about the Redskins, but at any rate it's clear that the Rams didn't really capitalize on the value they got out of the trade. But be ready to hear about it as soon as Brockers, Ogletree, or Jenkins makes a play. They'll have the flashback footage and infographic all lined up waiting for it.
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The Rams did not do as well from the trade as many expected ...
AND
For all those that claim 'we gave up too much' ... do you really think that the guys that decided to make that trade (Snyder & Allen) would have made good choices with those draft picks - as the Harvard Business School report pointed out in March, 2012 - 'the only way this trade makes any sense is for Robert Griffin III to become as good a QB as Tom Brady'
and anyone that thinks the guys that made that trade would have used the draft picks to help this franchise is certifiable
This franchise has not done well under Allen & Snyder - hopefully, they are not a part of the 2015 draft ....
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The Rams have a good HC and will always be in the mix - it must be very disappointing to not have done better with the picks though
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http://www.hogshaven.com/2014/12/3/7327771/washington-st-louis-ask-turf-show-times
Washington - St. Louis: Ask Turf Show Times
By
Douglas M
@thenovelroad on Dec 3 2014
OK, both of these teams are on the outside looking in when it comes to the post season for 2014. Enough said... But it doesn't mean there's not loads of meaning to this game when the
Ramsvisit the
Redskins this week.
First, there's the last few times these teams have met. Is it just me who sees there's a bit of a rivalry brewing? I mean, the last couple times these two teams met, it got pretty heated on the field. True,
Cortland Finneganis long gone from the Rams, and he seemed to push Redskins players' buttons more than most... Then there's the subject of "The Trade", and I'll tell right now I've heard enough about it. It could easily gone against the Rams, who are still without a franchise QB.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grH4Dh82b8E
I'm an Editor and writer for Turf Show Times, the St. Louis Rams site here at SBNation. I thought I'd drop in to talk, not just about this game, but what the future holds for each team. Let's talk players to watch this week, but also take the long view toward the draft in 2015.
Players to watch for the Rams has to include
Robert Quinn, but also rookie defensive tackle Aaron Donald. This young guy is going to be special. Who do the Redskins have across from him, and how do you think he'll do? Speaking of Quinn, he's been on fire the last four weeks. What kind of offensive packages do the Redskins have to negate him?
Pierre Garcon has had a quiet 2014, but I put it down to all the quarterback questions swirling around. If he's set man-on-man against
Janoris Jenkins, he could have a big day. Jenkins have a gambler streak in him that bites him in the butt more often than not... What players should the Rams be keeping tabs on this Sunday?
I know this stings a little, but let's get this one out there because I'm truly curious to hear where you think RGIII will be in 2015? Personally, I just don't understand what's happened to this remarkably talented young quarterback?
I'll be here off and on all week to answer any questions you may have about the Rams, and I'll be asking a few more about the Redskins as the game gets closer... Should anyone from Turf Show Times drop in, and forget they're guests on your site, please don't hesitate to let me know...
Here's to a great game, and may the injury demons steer well clear of both teams! -
Douglas M
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Can we have Gregg Williams back, please?
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Doug - your QB
it was reported on a Detroit sports radio show that the Rams had called the Redskins twice in the weeks following Bradfords injury to inquire about Cousins. In the 5 games he played, he threw for more yds than RG and Colt combined in the other 7 games. Was there much chatter about KC before the trade deadline. Going into 2015 will the Rams go back to Bradford once again?
Will they trade up in the draft to go after a top prospect? When the skins made the trade for RG they we a Long way away from being 1 player away and that is now fully exposed but the Rams could be close to a qb away from being really dangerous.
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The general consensus is Bradford will need to take a pay cut to stay in St. Louis, and I agree...
His value on the open market will be effected by Eli Manning – IMO – who I think is out in NY after this season. Many aren’t paying attention to the possible QBs hitting the market for 2015. I think there’s going to be some shocking turns. My dark horse to be shopped: Cam Newton. Crazy? Maybe, but Carolina is in for a serious shake up in the off season. Teams with money to spend could be in a great FA QB position. It’s why I was wondering about Washington’s cap space… 
