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Kolton Miller, 6'9" 309 lbs, is the rookie L offensive tackle who will be squaring off against the Rams D-line on Monday night. The writer in the article below doesn't think too highly of him. If Gruden is wise he will place a TE and/or an RB on his side to help him out. This should be an interesting matchup. To read the comments click the link and scroll down.
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https://www.silverandblackpride.com...lers-lackluster-raiders-preseason-performance
Kolton Miller’s lackluster Raiders preseason performance
By Arash Akbar
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Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
Kolton Miller’s selection by the Raiders with the 14th overall pick was controversial as scouting evaluations had him projected all over the board prior to the draft. With a handful of highly regarded defensive players still on the board, the Raiders decision to take Miller was likely influenced by his elite athleticism and their dearth of talent at offensive tackle.
While I wasn’t ecstatic about his selection, the fact remained that Miller was now a Raider and I was willing to give him a chance see he could excel in the preseason against NFL starting caliber competition. Unfortunately, Miller has not impressed thus far in his limited preseason appearances.
In order to better understand Miller’s play, I graded Miller on a snap by snap basis for his performance against the Green Bay Packers.
In grading an offensive lineman, I consider not losing as far more important than winning. An offensive lineman’s ability to take correct angles, minimize disruption, and limit pressures should all contribute to a low loss percentage, or the percentage of the time an offensive lineman loses as compared to his total snaps.
In my grading system, offensive lineman with a sub 10% loss rate are elite and below 20% is starter level. Still, it is important to keep in mind that my usual system of grading offensive lineman is ineffective due to the extraordinarily small nature of my sample size.
Nevertheless, Miller’s production against the Packers starting defensive line was absolutely terrible by any metric. In the seven snaps of the first Raiders’ drive, Miller surrendered 1 QB hit and 2 pressures which is worse than a regular pass block loss.
Let’s examine each of these negative plays individually to better understand what happened.
On the very first play, the play action with Marshawn Lynch was able to freeze Nick Perry (one of the most underrated NFL players by my evaluation) for a split second. Theoretically, this would allow Miller plenty of time to set his feet in perfect position and jam Perry to stymie his pass rush.
Unfortunately, Miller was far too hesitant with his hand usage and Perry almost contemptuously swats Miller’s hand away as he cuts inside and smashes into Carr as he threw the deep ball to Cooper. If Carr had been allowed to step into that throw, the Raiders may have had a touchdown on their first play.
My negative grade on this snap is a bit more subjective, but I’ll stand by it. Miller gets beat by Gilbert who gives a one arm stab to create separation before he swatted away Miller’s arm as he bent around the edge. If it wasn’t for Carr displaying good footwork and awareness by stepping up in the pocket combined with the defensive end slipping, Miller would have been beaten completely.
There is not much to be analyzed here. On this snap, Miller gets left in the dust as Clay Mathewsfakes to the right and then spins back left. If Donald Penn had not been walked back into Carr, Mathews would have had the sack.
It wasn’t all negative with Miller. As the game progressed, Miller improved as demonstrated by this snap where he mirrors the Packers DE perfectly and drives him to the floor. There was some of the aggressiveness and hand usage that was missing from his game previously.
Summary
Miller was absolutely terrible during the first drive but he improved and played well throughout the rest of his time in the game. While that improvement should also be partly attributed to the diminishing talent facing him, it’s possible a large part of it was due to the change of mindset.
Cable/Gruden likely ripped into him on the sideline about his lack of aggressiveness and hand usage and he responded.
While Miller’s athleticism reaches the physical thresholds for an All-Pro talent, he still requires a ton of improvements to his technique and overall core strength before he reaches anywhere near that level of play.
https://www.silverandblackpride.com...o-replaces-khalil-mack-and-other-observations
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https://www.silverandblackpride.com...lers-lackluster-raiders-preseason-performance
Kolton Miller’s lackluster Raiders preseason performance
By Arash Akbar
Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
Kolton Miller’s selection by the Raiders with the 14th overall pick was controversial as scouting evaluations had him projected all over the board prior to the draft. With a handful of highly regarded defensive players still on the board, the Raiders decision to take Miller was likely influenced by his elite athleticism and their dearth of talent at offensive tackle.
While I wasn’t ecstatic about his selection, the fact remained that Miller was now a Raider and I was willing to give him a chance see he could excel in the preseason against NFL starting caliber competition. Unfortunately, Miller has not impressed thus far in his limited preseason appearances.
In order to better understand Miller’s play, I graded Miller on a snap by snap basis for his performance against the Green Bay Packers.
In grading an offensive lineman, I consider not losing as far more important than winning. An offensive lineman’s ability to take correct angles, minimize disruption, and limit pressures should all contribute to a low loss percentage, or the percentage of the time an offensive lineman loses as compared to his total snaps.
In my grading system, offensive lineman with a sub 10% loss rate are elite and below 20% is starter level. Still, it is important to keep in mind that my usual system of grading offensive lineman is ineffective due to the extraordinarily small nature of my sample size.
Nevertheless, Miller’s production against the Packers starting defensive line was absolutely terrible by any metric. In the seven snaps of the first Raiders’ drive, Miller surrendered 1 QB hit and 2 pressures which is worse than a regular pass block loss.
Let’s examine each of these negative plays individually to better understand what happened.
On the very first play, the play action with Marshawn Lynch was able to freeze Nick Perry (one of the most underrated NFL players by my evaluation) for a split second. Theoretically, this would allow Miller plenty of time to set his feet in perfect position and jam Perry to stymie his pass rush.
Unfortunately, Miller was far too hesitant with his hand usage and Perry almost contemptuously swats Miller’s hand away as he cuts inside and smashes into Carr as he threw the deep ball to Cooper. If Carr had been allowed to step into that throw, the Raiders may have had a touchdown on their first play.
My negative grade on this snap is a bit more subjective, but I’ll stand by it. Miller gets beat by Gilbert who gives a one arm stab to create separation before he swatted away Miller’s arm as he bent around the edge. If it wasn’t for Carr displaying good footwork and awareness by stepping up in the pocket combined with the defensive end slipping, Miller would have been beaten completely.
There is not much to be analyzed here. On this snap, Miller gets left in the dust as Clay Mathewsfakes to the right and then spins back left. If Donald Penn had not been walked back into Carr, Mathews would have had the sack.
It wasn’t all negative with Miller. As the game progressed, Miller improved as demonstrated by this snap where he mirrors the Packers DE perfectly and drives him to the floor. There was some of the aggressiveness and hand usage that was missing from his game previously.
Summary
Miller was absolutely terrible during the first drive but he improved and played well throughout the rest of his time in the game. While that improvement should also be partly attributed to the diminishing talent facing him, it’s possible a large part of it was due to the change of mindset.
Cable/Gruden likely ripped into him on the sideline about his lack of aggressiveness and hand usage and he responded.
While Miller’s athleticism reaches the physical thresholds for an All-Pro talent, he still requires a ton of improvements to his technique and overall core strength before he reaches anywhere near that level of play.
https://www.silverandblackpride.com...o-replaces-khalil-mack-and-other-observations
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We hungry.....FRESH FISH!Kolton Miller, 6'9" 309 lbs, is the rookie L offensive tackle who will be squaring off against the Rams D-line on Monday night. The writer in the article below doesn't think too highly of him. If Gruden is wise he will place a TE and/or an RB on his side to help him out. This should be an interesting matchup. To read the comments click the link and scroll down.
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https://www.silverandblackpride.com...lers-lackluster-raiders-preseason-performance
Kolton Miller’s lackluster Raiders preseason performance
By Arash Akbar
Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
Kolton Miller’s selection by the Raiders with the 14th overall pick was controversial as scouting evaluations had him projected all over the board prior to the draft. With a handful of highly regarded defensive players still on the board, the Raiders decision to take Miller was likely influenced by his elite athleticism and their dearth of talent at offensive tackle.
While I wasn’t ecstatic about his selection, the fact remained that Miller was now a Raider and I was willing to give him a chance see he could excel in the preseason against NFL starting caliber competition. Unfortunately, Miller has not impressed thus far in his limited preseason appearances.
In order to better understand Miller’s play, I graded Miller on a snap by snap basis for his performance against the Green Bay Packers.
In grading an offensive lineman, I consider not losing as far more important than winning. An offensive lineman’s ability to take correct angles, minimize disruption, and limit pressures should all contribute to a low loss percentage, or the percentage of the time an offensive lineman loses as compared to his total snaps.
In my grading system, offensive lineman with a sub 10% loss rate are elite and below 20% is starter level. Still, it is important to keep in mind that my usual system of grading offensive lineman is ineffective due to the extraordinarily small nature of my sample size.
Nevertheless, Miller’s production against the Packers starting defensive line was absolutely terrible by any metric. In the seven snaps of the first Raiders’ drive, Miller surrendered 1 QB hit and 2 pressures which is worse than a regular pass block loss.
Let’s examine each of these negative plays individually to better understand what happened.
On the very first play, the play action with Marshawn Lynch was able to freeze Nick Perry (one of the most underrated NFL players by my evaluation) for a split second. Theoretically, this would allow Miller plenty of time to set his feet in perfect position and jam Perry to stymie his pass rush.
Unfortunately, Miller was far too hesitant with his hand usage and Perry almost contemptuously swats Miller’s hand away as he cuts inside and smashes into Carr as he threw the deep ball to Cooper. If Carr had been allowed to step into that throw, the Raiders may have had a touchdown on their first play.
My negative grade on this snap is a bit more subjective, but I’ll stand by it. Miller gets beat by Gilbert who gives a one arm stab to create separation before he swatted away Miller’s arm as he bent around the edge. If it wasn’t for Carr displaying good footwork and awareness by stepping up in the pocket combined with the defensive end slipping, Miller would have been beaten completely.
There is not much to be analyzed here. On this snap, Miller gets left in the dust as Clay Mathewsfakes to the right and then spins back left. If Donald Penn had not been walked back into Carr, Mathews would have had the sack.
It wasn’t all negative with Miller. As the game progressed, Miller improved as demonstrated by this snap where he mirrors the Packers DE perfectly and drives him to the floor. There was some of the aggressiveness and hand usage that was missing from his game previously.
Summary
Miller was absolutely terrible during the first drive but he improved and played well throughout the rest of his time in the game. While that improvement should also be partly attributed to the diminishing talent facing him, it’s possible a large part of it was due to the change of mindset.
Cable/Gruden likely ripped into him on the sideline about his lack of aggressiveness and hand usage and he responded.
While Miller’s athleticism reaches the physical thresholds for an All-Pro talent, he still requires a ton of improvements to his technique and overall core strength before he reaches anywhere near that level of play.
https://www.silverandblackpride.com...o-replaces-khalil-mack-and-other-observations
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Hey rai-duh fans...
Since it looks like Oakland is going to try and sue the rai-duhs and the NFL... you're going to have less time than you thought to watch Vegas' team play in your backyard.
Your team and it's bowl-cut wearing owner are going to leave town early if your city goes through with their threat. LOL
Guess you guys will only get to dress up in your super scary costumes for Halloween now.
Since it looks like Oakland is going to try and sue the rai-duhs and the NFL... you're going to have less time than you thought to watch Vegas' team play in your backyard.
Your team and it's bowl-cut wearing owner are going to leave town early if your city goes through with their threat. LOL
Guess you guys will only get to dress up in your super scary costumes for Halloween now.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbGhuoXbJFs
Raiders 30-Rams 26
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Rams gon get that ass beat
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Raiders:27 Rams:24
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Raiders are going to have one of the best offenses this year. We got the rams offensive coordinator from last year who had the best offense, lynch as our rb, cooper and nelson as receivers, and a healthy dc. No stopping our offense.
On defense, I agree we would be better with mack, but we got new cbs and safetys. We also got one of the best defensive coaches paul gunther and got rid of our trash defensive coordinator from last year.
Its going to be one of the best games of the season. I see both the rams and raiders making it to the playoffs this year. Goodluck rams, its going to be a good one!
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You didn't get the Rams OC the Titans did yall got the Rams QB coach Greg Olson who was awful as a play caller.
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Na we'll win if Carr goes off & doesn't turnover the ball. Coop always torches Peters, Nelson will win against Talib. Our interior o-line is one of the best in the NFL & shut down Suh last year. Our defense has a real DC now & they have looked way better than last preseason. More sacks, pressures, & tighter coverage. We good.
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31-27, Raiders.
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Peter's about to get burnt by cooper again lol
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I see raiders winning this one by a field goal.
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Raiders will win I guarantee it
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think they have a chance because of the very good O-Line holding the pass rushers long enough back for Carr. Both Sides can score more than 20 points and maybe the silver and black gets a late lucky punch to beat the Rams like in the last season against the chiefs. Go Raidernation
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Raiders winning this game, all the bandwagon raider fans giving up on the team cause of mack's trade can go kick rocks. The season isn't even close to lost. Offense still going to be good and with players like Ardent Key, Mo Hurst, PJ Hall, Bruce Irvin, Tahir Whitehead we'll be good. we still going 11-5 at least this year and all you haters will be back
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As a raider fan.. I'm not worried about suh. Raiders handled him last year with ease.. But Donald we will see. Raiders have one of the best guards n center in the league with lynch.. Should b fun..
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Rams defense ain't ready for that raiders powerful offense
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34-9 Raiders. Amari cooper 100+ yards 2 touchdowns and beast mode goes beast mode.
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27-20 Raiders
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People assume raiders are going to lose because of Mack?! Last time I checked 1 person dose not make or break a team. #RaiderNation
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The Raiders gonna shock the world during this game the rams are overrated cooper gonna run up and down on the rams he too fast
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Raiders 21 Rams 17 Carr game winning drive
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Goff going to be rusty probably.
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Raiders 28 rams 21
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Oakland Raiders win 27-13
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Raiders 35 Rams 28 maybe 30
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Marcus Peters sucks now
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all these mfs talking about the raiders watch raiders light them up and watch the lambs go downhill with all those egos on the team
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Raiders 24 Rams 21
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Rams 24 Raiders 31
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If Raiders can be effective on offense then we can win.
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Raiders will be fired up for this game. Several players from rams in there first game since the playoff loss. I could see raiders sneaking a win here
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As a Raiders fan, I'm gonna say probably 24-17 Rams. But I don't think it will be a proper showing of what the raiders can do. I had Rams winning the Super Bowl before pre season and I stand by that now. I expect Oakland to go 9-7 this season, 12-4 if we get lucky in a few games. 5-11 if everything goes wrong.
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Raiders 27 Rams 26
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Close but I'm going with the raiders
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This could get ugly
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Hilarious. A few days ago,right after the trade, the world was ending and the Rams would clearly win..Now, the Rams are punks, Suh and Peters blow...My God, you can't make this up! lol
I wonder if Suh was triple teamed in the game they point to? Do they really think with Donald, Suh, and Brockers that they will contain anybody? lol
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Gotta love a fan base approaching game 1. I have a feeling what they are saying is not what they are thinking. Just trying to pump themselves up. Lol @ the overrated comments. How would you know someone is overrated when they haven't played yet? A lot of wishful thinking there.
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I'd love for them to doubleteam Suh. Of course, that means Donald will likely be doubleteamed too. Figure Brockers will dominate at least one blocker, though a TE might be needed too. And then the linebackers or safeties will have a straight line to the QB.
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I always enjoy reading info on how the other team's fans think it will play out......but DAMN....these guys are truly delusional. Their new DC might make a difference, but probably not in game #1 after losing the best defensive player they've had in several years. They keep talking about Amare Cooper "burning" Peters, but how did he do against the Wade Phillips defense? (I looked... decent but not great 14 rec. 142 yds 1 TD in 4 games against Wade Phillips Defense.....and 1 shutout..... 8 targets/0 catches)....) And lastly, it's easy to slow someone down when you assign 3 or 4 lineman to them. But what about Donald and Brockers if they concentrate on Suh...… I have to say...looks like more questions than answers for the Raiders.
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These Raida fans are talking up a storm. I wish we could see them typing in their posts. I bet their hands are trembling as the forecast a Raiders win. They know they're dead come Monday night!
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All right now, who served the kool aid over at the Raiders message board? Does anyone remember how Jeff Fisher's inept offense put up 52 points against the silver and black?
When did the raiders offense become so prolific that the Rams have no chance to stop them?
This stuff is pure comedy.
The raiders fans are just :blah::blah::blah:
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As the 1999 and 2017 Rams have taught us....Every season is a new beginning. Also what true fan doesn’t hold legitamit hope at the beginning on each season. For those reasons I will give Raiders fans a break. But back in the real world - C’mon Man!!
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Provided you understand it is a set of fictional rules invented in the last couple of hundred years, some of which are as debatable as the catch rule. Didn't exist in Shakespeare's time, no wonder he couldn't express himself properly.
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Keep in mind that the above video is on You Tube and that only the Raiders fans comments were posted, as is the theme of this thread. There are plenty of Rams fans on there as well. And also remember these are You Tube commentators.
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Cooper has had some good games and bad games against Peters. Don't have the context but here is a link. First games of the season were some big numbers while he was shut down in the second game.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/2976499
http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/2976499
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So the coaching we have now won't allow us to not be prepared for the 1st game of the season. It could be close, at least for a while, but I think the rams win going away.