Week 2 O-line Grades

[simonblaze]

Everytime i read "I dunno, Noteboom played pretty well" it makes me feel like headbutting my keyboard...

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

I thought this was a pipe dream for this year, but it's got me so amped. Love it love it love it

 

[Allen2McVay]

Everytime i read "I dunno, Noteboom played pretty well" it makes me feel like headbutting my keyboard...

Unfortunately, I agree.

Really want to see something but rarely do. He just does not stay on his blocks, and sometimes does not even get there.

Watch most games on re-play, and often focus on line play; and just don’t see much from Noteboom.

When Edwards replaced the injured Noteboom in the third quarter against Philadelphia, it was night-and-day. The second-year Wisconsin player consistently reached the defender and stayed on him.

Just what I saw. However, I am getting old.

 

[LARAMSinFeb.]

I highly recommend it for everyone. Just keep your clicker in your hand and fast forward to every offensive snap. Rewind it 5 times and watch every linemans block. Skip past the defensive plays, commercials and everything else. It takes less then 20-30 minutes and you can clearly see what every lineman is doing. Oldschool mentioned people like to shit on Boom. Honestly maybe some do but I don't. I see alot of potential there. But he cannot lock onto his man whatsoever. He has more push this year and those quick feet so all the talent in the world. But until he can lock on and not lose his man he's a liablity. Jamon Brown had the same issue. Strong as a bull and real quick but if you can't hold onto your man you can't play at this level.

It's possible Noteboom could excel at LT and I would not give up on him at all. He just doesn't have the hand strength or technique yet. Some have said balance. Maybe that is part of it, I really don't know. But on tape it's real clear his man disengages almost immediately on most plays.

There were a couple times last Sun. Edwards' man got around him to his left when Whit was wide, as well. But I think Edwards is going to make a big difference in our whole game this Sun. Maybe we can avoid those "lulls" as McVay calls them.

 

[simonblaze]

Unfortunately, I agree.

Really want to see something but rarely do. He just does not stay on his blocks, and sometimes does not even get there.

Watch most games on re-play, and often focus on line play; and just don’t see much from Noteboom.

When Edwards replaced the injured Noteboom in the third quarter against Philadelphia, it was night-and-day. The second-year Wisconsin player consistently reached the defender and stayed on him.

Just what I saw. However, I am getting old.

Spot on my Ram Brother...

 

[MachS]

I think as the run game stays consistently good that the OL will get more chances to hold up on longer developing passing plays.

If the run game holds up, then yes this offense will continue rolling. But taking a deep shot on 2nd and 3 or 3rd and 2 and the o-line "appearing" to hold up on a 7 step drop is a facade. These are situations where the defense has to defend and look for BOTH the run and the pass. This is why McVay gets so much credit and why the running game is so important.

The question is, when its 3rd and 8+ and we HAVE to pass, and the defense is expecting pass and pinning their ears back rushing the passer, can the OL protect then? So far this season we are 0-7 in those situations and Goff threw a pick, almost threw another, got sacked, and has been constantly pressured. Goff so far in his career has not proven he can consistently read coverages and convert in these situations with the pocket closing around him, thats the issue. He's much more inaccurate, and prone to picks/fumbles in these situations. THATS where the OL has to prove itself, and that's where Goff needs to improve. When was the last time he was flushed from the pocket avoiding the rush and made a big time 3rd down conversion or threw a TD like he did in the MIN game in 2018?

Our OL and Goff need to prove if the running game isnt rolling like it has been, that we can still score points and throw the ball down the field in known passing situations. I suspect we'll see more of these situations tmrw.

 

[CoachAllred]

Week 2 -Eagles
I reviewed the game tape play by play reviewing the O-line. Below are my grades. There were some really excellent plays out there. I hope multiple people rewatch the game and focus on the blocking we are getting. I was critical of the coaching staff in the offseason not bringing in fresh blood, but so far their decision is paying off. Havenstein has been excellent, Corbett has turned the corner and turned into a nasty effective player. Blythe hasn't been perfect but overall he has been really good. Edwards was excellent today when he came in, to my credit I have been a huge fan of his after watching his tape all last year. Whitworth has been Pro Bowl form.

Havenstein Grade A - Totally dominant in the run game and responsible for several big runs. Pretty solid in this game in pass pro as well.

Corbett Grade B+ - Plays with a nasty streak and really moves bodies. Sometimes has perfect second level blocks after first level blocks. Playing at Saffold level in my book right now. Still a little work to do in pass pro. No major breakdowns.

Blythe - B Blythe has been showing more push in the run game and really solid overall. Gave up a sack in this game by failing to pick up the inside stunt by Graham. But that was a difficult block. Graham was lighting quick and Blythe was just a tad slow.

Edwards A - Edwards improvement over Noteboom is so noticeable. He got excellent push and actually showed surprising burst to get out to the second level today. His biggest improvement over Noteboom is his ability to lock onto his block. This guy is so underated and might have a pro bowl or two down the road from what I can tell.

Whitworth A - Still doing his thing. Not much to say. Even in pass pro he is showing perfect form.

Everett was a little inconsistent. Him and Higbee tend to be inconsistent.
Woods was real good again. Kupp improved over last week.

The TE/WR blocking can often make or break a play, often time the scheme has them blocking bigger players in assignments that seem such a disadvantage, but the tradeoff is they are great decoys for those delay screens that Mcvay runs to them when the defense is thinking they are blocking.

Awesome post TexasRam.
I have been hoping that Corbett would prove my thoughts on him were correct.
He was drafted by the Browns to play tackle in a power blocking scheme.
There was no way he was a NFL tackle and he was not fit with their power blocking scheme.
Corbett is now in the correct position and scheme. And this is one reason the Browns
are in the basement year after year . This pick made absolutely no sense.

 

[BonifayRam]

There is no question that Joseph Noteboom had much to offer Kromer @ LG over David Edwards/ Austin Corbett/ Shelton Coleman/ Tremayne Anchrum in McVays outside zone running offense.

JN is very smart & coachable. He does have much quicker feet & better pulling speed than any of the Rams OL'ers. It just seemed to me that JN could not get it all working togehter in his 1 1/2 gms this season. This 2nd injury was the last thing JN needed to happen after all he had gone through last season with being unable to complete no more than 5 starts.

David Edward's skills & talents just do not fit McVay's scheme as well but Edwards is much generally better in all the need areas in blocking for Goff than JN. Edwards still needs to work hard on skills to fit what Kromer needs to make McVay offense sucessfull. I do beleive that Edwards can do it with Andrew Whitworth by his side in tandem. Edwards is used to haveing Austin Blythe next to him after all his starts with him @ RG.

Shelton Coleman has been the main backup center @ this point & does haved some talents to start @ LG if needed for a very short period of time. At this time I am not certain just how Tremayne Anchrum will fit in this OL blocking scheme