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look at edmunds' reaction. even he knows he fumbled the ball. only got excited after the ref told him the ruling was he was down. i couldn't find it but the view from head on clearly shows the ball was out before he was down but the fucks in the booth gave the call the green light. the fucking cheating fucks.

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Who the hell calls a fake punt from their own 30 when the defense was playing well ? Then they put Hecker in the shotgun and let the Steelers get in position. I was thinking there's no way they snap the ball . Wrong
 
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This o line is garbage , we all know that .

But this team is coming off a bye , and our genius coach and 100 million dollar qb couldnt figure this out ? Why is he not rolling out Goff more or moving the pocket ?
Goff is always in the middle of the pocket and it constantly closes around him.

Why was gurley so limited by the coaches ? He ran good and he should of had alot more Carrie's. That said , wtf happend to his hands? He drops everything now

Defense was awesome, they have a good young crew and should be good for a while .

I really can't believe mcvay hasent found a solution for this o line issue.

Well ..there's always next year. This team just doesnt seem to have it, hope I'm wrong.

Go rams !
 
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I think we are somewhat delusional if we expect to squeeze into the playoffs this year. It would be awesome if we were to pull that off. IMO it’s just not our year. If we can’t get by a Steeler team that has no Roethlisberger, Conner, Brown and Bell playing how can we expect to beat the hags and 9ers? This Steelers game was our SB this year (my opinion only).
 
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When you have really good skill position players (Cooks, Kupp, Woods, Everett, Gurley), and presumably a smart offensive mind calling plays (McVay), there's only 1 reason the offense stinks. And that's QB. Because even if the offensive line is only giving the QB a few seconds to throw, the skill guys are good enough to get open in 3 seconds. And when you have a QB that can make the quick decisions, the right read, put the ball on the money, and isn't flustered when the o line breaks down, then you should be able to score lot of points.

But the Rams are scoring very little on offense despite very good skill guys. So it's either the QB that isn't capable of making quick decisions, or it's the play caller that only calls these 7 step drop long developing plays because the QB can't do the quick hitters.

At this point, I have far more faith in McVay than Goff. McVay isn't dumb. He's calling the plays he thinks his QB has the best chance to execute. And if he's not calling the quick stuff, it's because he doesn't think Goff can do it. And if Goff can't be an effective QB without 5 seconds to throw, and great skill guys aorund him, well the Rams are done because that is most likely never going to happen. That is what I call "optimum condition QB'ing". And it's irrelevant when its come to playoff football. The Rams need a QB that elevates the team, not a QB where the rest of the team makes him look good. I'm not calling for Bortles because I saw in Jacksonville he's not a good fit for a passing offense that McVay wants. But this year I hope the Rams draft a QB they can develop into that. They may be locked into Goff with his contract, but it's going to be impossible to have great skill guys, great offensive line, and a QB making top 3 money. There's not enough cap $$s to pay everyone.
 
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seriously, how can someone look at that and think he got his foot down before his knee hit out of bounds? fucking cheating fucks in the booth.

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It occurred to me that by having faceless folks in some booth in NY decide these games it makes it much easier to get away with these stupid calls. It’s like they call up to the great and wonderful Oz (in NY) and that call has to be respected. Still, we shouldn’t have to rely on these calls to win.
 
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This o line is garbage , we all know that .

But this team is coming off a bye , and our genius coach and 100 million dollar qb couldnt figure this out ? Why is he not rolling out Goff more or moving the pocket ?
Goff is always in the middle of the pocket and it constantly closes around him.

Why was gurley so limited by the coaches ? He ran good and he should of had alot more Carrie's. That said , wtf happend to his hands? He drops everything now

Defense was awesome, they have a good young crew and should be good for a while .

I really can't believe mcvay hasent found a solution for this o line issue.

Well ..there's always next year. This team just doesnt seem to have it, hope I'm wrong.

Go rams !
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You summed it up pretty well .
I know it's not the case , but from what I witnessed yesterday Gurley tells them when he wants to be in the game . I have no idea how he knows when to go in , when he's by himself 20 yards from McVay.
The only point I would differ on is hoping for next year with all these huge contracts and lots of key players needing paid . I understand having to pay Goff , but why not wait ? Higbees signing is still baffling when Everett is 5 times better . I hope there's a plan that Snead and McVay have for mortgaging the future to win now . That win now part ain't happening
 
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Capitaino said:
When you have really good skill position players (Cooks, Kupp, Woods, Everett, Gurley), and presumably a smart offensive mind calling plays (McVay), there's only 1 reason the offense stinks. And that's QB. Because even if the offensive line is only giving the QB a few seconds to throw, the skill guys are good enough to get open in 3 seconds. And when you have a QB that can make the quick decisions, the right read, put the ball on the money, and isn't flustered when the o line breaks down, then you should be able to score lot of points.

But the Rams are scoring very little on offense despite very good skill guys. So it's either the QB that isn't capable of making quick decisions, or it's the play caller that only calls these 7 step drop long developing plays because the QB can't do the quick hitters.

At this point, I have far more faith in McVay than Goff. McVay isn't dumb. He's calling the plays he thinks his QB has the best chance to execute. And if he's not calling the quick stuff, it's because he doesn't think Goff can do it. And if Goff can't be an effective QB without 5 seconds to throw, and great skill guys aorund him, well the Rams are done because that is most likely never going to happen. That is what I call "optimum condition QB'ing". And it's irrelevant when its come to playoff football. The Rams need a QB that elevates the team, not a QB where the rest of the team makes him look good. I'm not calling for Bortles because I saw in Jacksonville he's not a good fit for a passing offense that McVay wants. But this year I hope the Rams draft a QB they can develop into that. They may be locked into Goff with his contract, but it's going to be impossible to have great skill guys, great offensive line, and a QB making top 3 money. There's not enough cap $$s to pay everyone.
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It’s obvious Goff needs a great O line to thrive. Otherwise he’s pretty ineffective.
 
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Capitaino said:
When you have really good skill position players (Cooks, Kupp, Woods, Everett, Gurley), and presumably a smart offensive mind calling plays (McVay), there's only 1 reason the offense stinks. And that's QB. Because even if the offensive line is only giving the QB a few seconds to throw, the skill guys are good enough to get open in 3 seconds. And when you have a QB that can make the quick decisions, the right read, put the ball on the money, and isn't flustered when the o line breaks down, then you should be able to score lot of points.

But the Rams are scoring very little on offense despite very good skill guys. So it's either the QB that isn't capable of making quick decisions, or it's the play caller that only calls these 7 step drop long developing plays because the QB can't do the quick hitters.

At this point, I have far more faith in McVay than Goff. McVay isn't dumb. He's calling the plays he thinks his QB has the best chance to execute. And if he's not calling the quick stuff, it's because he doesn't think Goff can do it. And if Goff can't be an effective QB without 5 seconds to throw, and great skill guys aorund him, well the Rams are done because that is most likely never going to happen. That is what I call "optimum condition QB'ing". And it's irrelevant when its come to playoff football. The Rams need a QB that elevates the team, not a QB where the rest of the team makes him look good. I'm not calling for Bortles because I saw in Jacksonville he's not a good fit for a passing offense that McVay wants. But this year I hope the Rams draft a QB they can develop into that. They may be locked into Goff with his contract, but it's going to be impossible to have great skill guys, great offensive line, and a QB making top 3 money. There's not enough cap $$s to pay everyone.
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You have more faith in the guy who abandoned the running game in a one score game, when it was working over a QB who had shit protection and was repeatedly put in bad positions by shitty playcalls???? And you already want to draft another one to replace him????

smfh ....
 
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One more vent before I go out into Steeler country and deal with everyone asking
" What happened to your Rams yesterday " . Never mind , just kick me in the nuts and get it over with .
Off I go :palm:
 
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thirteen28 said:
You have more faith in the guy who abandoned the running game in a one score game, when it was working over a QB who had shit protection and was repeatedly put in bad positions by shitty playcalls???? And you already want to draft another one to replace him????

smfh ....
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It shouldn't matter the protection when you have the skill guys the Rams have. Any QB should be able to make that work with the guys the Rams have. Yes, I trust McVay. He's the guy that took the Rams from the worst offense under Fisher, to the best in his first season. But, that was with a great o line and a QB that can only function with great protection. Rams no longer have that. They never will given the cap again.

If your QB can't scramble, and he can't read a defense in 3 seconds, you're screwed. No offensive coordinator can make that work. If you call the long developing play, the line doesn't hold up long enough. If you count on your qb making the right quick read in 3 seconds, and he can't do it, your passing attack is done for.

This is a Goff issue. It's not McVay. McVay's calling the plays he thinks Goff can execute best.
 
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It shouldn't matter the protection when you have the skill guys the Rams have. Any QB should be able to make that work with the guys the Rams have. Yes, I trust McVay. He's the guy that took the Rams from the worst offense under Fisher, to the best in his first season. But, that was with a great o line and a QB that can only function with great protection. Rams no longer have that. They never will given the cap again.

If your QB can't scramble, and he can't read a defense in 3 seconds, you're screwed. No offensive coordinator can make that work. If you call the long developing play, the line doesn't hold up long enough. If you count on your qb making the right quick read in 3 seconds, and he can't do it, your passing attack is done for.

This is a Goff issue. It's not McVay. McVay's calling the plays he thinks Goff can execute best.
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Well, I’m glad I’m your infinite wisdom that we’ve figured out having an OL that is abysmally bad at pass protection is not a problem.

Phew, I was worried , but thanks to you I’m not worried at all now!
 
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yeah and that’s just about every QB in the league. Very few thrive behind a bad OL.
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Not true at all. Great QBs make bad offensive lines look better than they are because they can make quick decisions. Tom Brady's done it for years.

Or great qbs can scramble out of trouble and make plays. Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers have done that for years behind bad offensive lines.


Likewise, mediocre QBs can make lines look worse by not feeling the rush, or having very slow decision making (holding the ball, etc etc).

The reason the QBs are paid franchise $$$$ in this league is because they are that important. And when you got a top 3 paid guy, playing like the 20th best guy in the league, your franchise is sunk. I see the same excuses being made for Goff among Ram fans that I saw with Bradford. Bad QB'ing is bad qb'ing.
 
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Capitaino said:
Not true at all. Great QBs make bad offensive lines look better than they are because they can make quick decisions. Tom Brady's done it for years.

Or great qbs can scramble out of trouble and make plays. Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers have done that for years behind bad offensive lines.


Likewise, mediocre QBs can make lines look worse by not feeling the rush, or having very slow decision making (holding the ball, etc etc).

The reason the QBs are paid franchise $$$$ in this league is because they are that important. And when you got a top 3 paid guy, playing like the 20th best guy in the league, your franchise is sunk. I see the same excuses being made for Goff among Ram fans that I saw with Bradford. Bad QB'ing is bad qb'ing.
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Once again, thanks for clarifying that quality OL play is not important and that the position group can basically be neglected. I did not know that.
 
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yeah and that’s just about every QB in the league. Very few thrive behind a bad OL.
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Some QBs seem to do better under duress, especially for the money Goff is making. But yes, you are correct for the most part.

Goff looked good against the Saint PO game last year. We need more of that. I think he also isn’t great in games where the weather is cold and/or wet. The point here is that if our QB isn’t up to the moment, the team will follow. We NEED him to be good to be champs and not chumps.
 
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One more vent before I go out into Steeler country and deal with everyone asking
" What happened to your Rams yesterday " . Never mind , just kick me in the nuts and get it over with .
Off I go :palm:
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Just blame the refs like the rest of us!
 
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