VENT Vent Thread - Rams/Packers

[madrid311]

Again, I share your anger, frustration and disappointment.

I thought the 'mentally tough' comment was general-enough to be OK but this is a Vent Thread, so you may have a point. I am surprised so many posters are so certain that the Rams will not rally and play winning football.

This is an uncomfortable position for me, as I can sometimes be kind of a negative guy.

They are giving you evidence to be negative. To many issues with this team.

 

[thirteen28]

I think McVay gave too much to Stafford. I’d like to see McVay run the same calls he’d do with Goff and see what happens. The offense is predictable now. When’s the last time we actually did a jet sweep (and it worked)? We can’t be working out of the shotgun so much. It’s great if it’s working but it’s not.

The problem is, it was predictable for his last two years with Goff as well, so running the same plays for Stafford still results in predictability. All the problems we are seeing manifest themselves now with Stafford existed last year and the year before, and a good chunk of those problems can only be fixed by McVay. Yes, the QB, whoever it is, has to execute better and take care of the football. But when McVay is predictable and telegraphs our intentions to opposing D's, it makes it a lot harder for any QB to play well. The last two years prior to this, it was easier for him to let Goff take all the heat for the problems rather than face up to his role in becoming predictable and putting his QB in bad spots. IMO he played a huge, if not dominant role in Goff's decline, and instead of making adjustments to help him get over the hump and get back to 2017-2018 form, he allowed Jared to be the scapegoat, all while refusing to deal with his own shortcomings which are still present. And now that he doesn't have Goff to hide behind anymore, those shortcomings are sticking out like a cockroach on a wedding cake.

Unless McVay does a root-and-branch re-evaluation of himself and his whole approach to offense, he is going to end up turning this huge gamble on Stafford into a bust.

 

[AZRams]

 

[Merlin]

I'm not sure McVay sticks around much longer.

When the bill comes due, he'll be burned out and will take an announcer position for a couple years before coming back to coach the 49ers a few years later, when he's wiser and energized and fuck just kill me now

This has been my fear for some time now.

I feel for him. I do. His staff gets plundered every year and his chances of hitting on every staff replacement, well, law of averages seems to dictate he is gonna miss and he just did with Morris.

Injuries fucked him hard too. Losing Akers alone was just massive because the backfield did not have answers behind him. But again to be sitting on Michel... Dude tell your RB coach the plan is to ride the physical back out of this stretch of identity issues. It is the simplest answer to where we are, along with continuing to get Stafford aligned how he wants him to play in this offense.

He has a QB who has not yet mastered the offense and who is pressing. That is the priority now, to get 9 back to efficiency.

The Morris hire was the friend hire most coaches make with their initial staff. Did he think he was Belichick? Maybe so. But he is not ready yet to teach his DC a new scheme on the fly while also installing a new signal caller.

If he had a stronger OL and Akers and Woods and better safety duo maybe he could have pulled it off I don't know. But the NFL has only one certainty and that is your firing. Every coach ends up there. And then he will move on to another team down the road wiser and better and that is gonna be a sad fucking day.

 

[Allen2McVay]

They are giving you evidence to be negative. Too many issues with this team.

Negative ... yes.

My comments have consistently been about the certainty expressed in some posts.

Still curious about your 'new baby' comment.

 

[dieterbrock]

Since we're venting, I'm sick of hearing this "McVay's offense has been figured out" nonsense.
That was the tag line when folks were repeating over and over about McVay in Goff's headset pre-snap.
We know what the 49ers are gonna do. We know what the Pats are gonna do. It's not a matter of knowing, it's a matter of execution.
And the Rams are not executing on the offensive side of the ball. Period

 

[PowayRamFan]

When we made the Stafford trade I told my wife that in 2 years we will either have a SB title or McVay and Snead will be fired. Still believe that and there is no chance at a SB at this point IMO

 

[bluecoconuts]

I'm not sure McVay sticks around much longer.

When the bill comes due, he'll be burned out and will take an announcer position for a couple years before coming back to coach the 49ers a few years later, when he's wiser and energized and fuck just kill me now

 

[Memento]

He made one mistake today. That's it.

It was a bad one, and the QB can't give the other team points. He's done that three times in the last three games.

But the fumble is hard to put on him - Whitworth got beat immediately and Gary hit Stafford's arm in a weird way.

But saying we should have kept Goff is beyond a bad take at this point. He's not a starting caliber QB so from that perspective, evaluation of the trade is done. It had to happen to get rid of the contract.

The more relevant talking point would be to discuss how they gave him that contract in the first place.

It hasn't been Stafford's best games, but our defense isn't what it was last year. If it was we would likely be 9-1 right now. It's not fair to hold the defense to that standard - I point that out because part of your comment about saying the trade was a mistake has to do with how the team is playing overall. We didn't lose a game last year when scoring 28 points or more.

This years Cardinals, Vikings, Ravens and Packers weren't on our schedule last year. Rather than 4-0 against a bad NFC East, were 2-1 against the NFC North with a trip to Minnesota very possibly going to make that 2-2.

The offense is also the problem. I'll say it again: I'd have rather kept the picks to draft a quarterback of the future. Or, hey, I don't know, an offensive lineman last year (seriously, Atwell? When Humphrey and Bolton were both on the board?)? Hell, trading a second and a third for Von Miller- who, aside from one play, was completely ineffective - doesn't make much sense. We needed those picks because we're a team that spends to the cap. We can't rely on fourths, fifths, and sixths forever.

And yes, I'd rather have Goff and the picks; at least we could draft a quarterback of the future and use Goff as a stepping stone this year. I don't much care for Goff, but if Stafford keeps playing like shit, then yes, I am going to question why we gave up two firsts and a third for him.

The defense is admittedly shit this year, true, but the offense, special teams (Gay aside), and coaching were all spectacularly awful, and Stafford played a part in the offense being as bad as it was.

 

[Dodgersrf]

That's a wrap.

 

[Rams77]

How good is your NFL coach on fourth-down calls? We rank all 32

Coaches are going for it more on fourth, and they're getting better at it. Which coaches are best and what was your team's most important fourth down?

www.espn.com

actually McVay is 30 out of 32 coaches going for it on 4th down… ugh

 

[Kupped]

It’s Morris’ fault because Sean is too worried about time of possession.

 

[OntarioRam]

Anyone see McVay's recent presser when he was asked about Stafford's recent turnovers, and what he had to say about that given that he called out Goff last season for similar issues?

He looked really annoyed.

Perhaps understandably so, as everyone is frustrated right now.

But at the same time, part of me wonders if Sean can feel the walls closing in around him. He blamed a lot on Goff. If only he had a better QB. And more speed at WR. Then, we would see the real Sean McVay offense! The playbook would open up. The Rams could use the entire field again. Drives would be sustained. Turnovers would be limited. Teams would struggle against his ability to scheme players open. All the moving parts would be hard to defend.

Instead, the offense is sputtering, and looks stale and predictable. With a curious lack of innovation or adaptability. Honestly, it just looks like a coach that has been figured out, and that is too blind to see the game is won and lost in the trenches - ignoring the offensive line in favour of skills positions. It looks like McVay is running out of scapegoats...

Lots of time left to correct this thing. I am very curious to see if McVay will make the necessary fixes, or, if McVay will continue the same pattern he has shown for years now - that is, overly pass happy, too much 11 personnel (it is being used by McVay on over 90% of offensive snaps, last time I looked a few weeks ago!), finesse offense, poor clock management, poor time out management, etc. My bet is on the latter. But boy, do I hope I am wrong. I am absolutely chomping at the bit to eat a huge piece of humble pie as I watch the Rams lift a Lombardi. Serve it up, Sean!

EDIT - Here is the link to McVay addressing the media.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Grebqpwuc

 

[rdlkgliders]

Watch: Sean McVay stunned by Rams fans' negativity in comments while recording podcast.​

Sean is having a tough week. Unusually bugged by fans responses.

Watch: Sean McVay stunned by Rams fans' negativity in comments while recording podcast

Sean McVay couldn’t believe how negative Rams fans were being in the comments while recording his “Coach McVay Podcast.”

theramswire.usatoday.com

 

[RhodyRams]

do we really need another negative thread?

sure we are all bent out of shape because the Rams lost 3 in a row, in embarrassing fashion no less, but as die hard fans , Im pretty sure we all know where this team stands in every statistic out there

 

[RhodyRams]

Watch: Sean McVay stunned by Rams fans' negativity in comments while recording podcast.​

Sean is having a tough week. Unusually bugged by fans responses.

Watch: Sean McVay stunned by Rams fans' negativity in comments while recording podcast

Sean McVay couldn’t believe how negative Rams fans were being in the comments while recording his “Coach McVay Podcast.”

theramswire.usatoday.com

and this was already posted and discussed in another thread

CGI; merged w/vent thread. We need topics framed to create conversation, not venting.