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Think it's helpful to go back to that draft and see what was available. Tutu was a miss as a pick and a miss as a resign this year but it's not like there weren't reasons for both. Just not great reasons.

From my memory, midround WR's (and those with speed) was a sh*tshow in that draft but McVay wanted to upgrade the field stretching part of the offense (hadn't we just traded cooks?) and that's what was avail.

Last offseason the field of WR's was brutal in FA and we were light at WR going into the draft (this was before we knew we could get Adams) so McVay decided to overpay for certainty in a WR he knew who had a skill that was coveted (speed) so that his offense would at least have a floor going into team build in the draft.

Hindsight is 20/20 and we shouldn't have signed him for that much but I at least understand both scenarios; Tutu has always been a player that's been about optionality in team build than actually being fully realized on the field.

I get that in that McVay wanted someone with speed to stretch the field and take the top off a defense, but it's clear that he didn't fully think this through and forced the pick. Basically, he drafted for need.

If McVay was going to continue to emphasize blocking in his WRs, then that should have been factored in before they sent the card up to the podium because I doubt Tutu had put much of anything on tape in that regard.

Maybe at the time of the pick he thought he'd take a guy who could get deep in a hurry, blocking be damned, and in that regard, Tutu wasn't a terrible pick, because he can do that and he has made plays for us. But, for whatever reason, McVay hasn't prioritized that part of Tutu's game, and understandably at times because putting him on the field might telegraph your intentions somewhat.

I think Tutu can be a valuable depth piece somewhere in the league, but it just won't be here because McVay prioritizes qualities that Tutu doesn't have and never will. And that's what make picking him a mistake.
 
Think it's helpful to go back to that draft and see what was available. Tutu was a miss as a pick and a miss as a resign this year but it's not like there weren't reasons for both. Just not great reasons.

From my memory, midround WR's (and those with speed) was a sh*tshow in that draft but McVay wanted to upgrade the field stretching part of the offense (hadn't we just traded cooks?) and that's what was avail.
Answer: Remember a guy named Dwayne Eskridge.
If not, look him up.
 
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Who said anything about crying?

Whining? Absolutely. :laugh4:

But some junior GM's and wannabe capologists have been doing that for 5 years now. :violin: Nothing new to see there.
Whining? Nah its just stating an opinion based on facts out there about the Tutu situation cuz its literally what us fans do on fan forums. Hate to say that McVay's actions speak pretty loudly that Tutu isn't worth activating, but keep trying to throw bait words such as "whining" to avoid the reality of the situation. Sounds like some deflection going on your side :laugh1:
 
I get that in that McVay wanted someone with speed to stretch the field and take the top off a defense, but it's clear that he didn't fully think this through and forced the pick. Basically, he drafted for need.

If McVay was going to continue to emphasize blocking in his WRs, then that should have been factored in before they sent the card up to the podium because I doubt Tutu had put much of anything on tape in that regard.

Maybe at the time of the pick he thought he'd take a guy who could get deep in a hurry, blocking be damned, and in that regard, Tutu wasn't a terrible pick, because he can do that and he has made plays for us. But, for whatever reason, McVay hasn't prioritized that part of Tutu's game, and understandably at times because putting him on the field might telegraph your intentions somewhat.

I think Tutu can be a valuable depth piece somewhere in the league, but it just won't be here because McVay prioritizes qualities that Tutu doesn't have and never will. And that's what make picking him a mistake.
How dare you speak logic about Tutu being a mistake :laugh2:
 
Whining? Nah its just stating an opinion based on facts out there about the Tutu situation cuz its literally what us fans do on fan forums. Hate to say that McVay's actions speak pretty loudly that Tutu isn't worth activating, but keep trying to throw bait words such as "whining" to avoid the reality of the situation. Sounds like some deflection going on your side :laugh1:
No defection here. I've got no dog in that fight. I'm perfectly happy with Xavier Smith, Whittington and Mumpfield complimenting Puka and Adam. So there is very little to bitch about IMHO. Some folks just like to find things to complain about. Makes them feel knowledgable I suppose.
 
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No defection here. I've got no dog in that fight. I'm perfectly happy with Xavier Smith, Whittington and Mumpfield complimenting Puka and Adam. So there is very little to bitch about IMHO. Some folks just like to find things to complain about. Makes them feel knowledgable I suppose.
Well I hope you don't think I'm bitching cuz I'm really not. I'm just discussing what a waste it was to use 10 mil on the guy. I personally wished McVay actually used him more like he said he would so its not like its all on Tutu. It wouldn't honestly surprise me if he went to another team and they actually utilized him better. For whatever reason, McVay doesn't want to. Its a rare head scratching move from him. With that said, I'm not mad at all where the Rams are at. I'm actually extremely grateful and happy where the team is at record wise. I have faith in this team to go all the way.
 
How dare you speak logic about Tutu being a mistake :laugh2:

Again, I want to emphasize that I'm not a Tutu hater, and think he can be useful in the right offense - and could even be useful in the current Rams offense. But he's just not a McVay kind of guy, so it's really baffling as to why he took him.
 
Again, I want to emphasize that I'm not a Tutu hater, and think he can be useful in the right offense - and could even be useful in the current Rams offense. But he's just not a McVay kind of guy, so it's really baffling as to why he took him.
He was drafted in 21' following a year where I recall watching games where defenses just crowded all the underneath stuff and the offense struggled. Highlighted by that Jets game.

To me it appeared to be because we had no speed at WR to challenge defenses and or Goff was not taking chances throwing it down field. I forget if Cooks was gone or just concussed that year?

In any event, I think it was an overreaction to add speed to the WR corp once Cooks was gone. Also, might have been an effort to try to give Stafford a downfield threat. Woods and Kupp just were not threatening defenses deep. So they grabbed the fastest guy left on the board, and he does have ability, he just doesn't fit the tenants of this offense.
 
I get that in that McVay wanted someone with speed to stretch the field and take the top off a defense, but it's clear that he didn't fully think this through and forced the pick. Basically, he drafted for need.

If McVay was going to continue to emphasize blocking in his WRs, then that should have been factored in before they sent the card up to the podium because I doubt Tutu had put much of anything on tape in that regard.

Maybe at the time of the pick he thought he'd take a guy who could get deep in a hurry, blocking be damned, and in that regard, Tutu wasn't a terrible pick, because he can do that and he has made plays for us. But, for whatever reason, McVay hasn't prioritized that part of Tutu's game, and understandably at times because putting him on the field might telegraph your intentions somewhat.

I think Tutu can be a valuable depth piece somewhere in the league, but it just won't be here because McVay prioritizes qualities that Tutu doesn't have and never will. And that's what make picking him a mistake.
I think there was a thought that Tutu would play the X spot that Cooks and Watkins before him played where blocking would be a little less important but Tutu just never could offer more than speed at X and struggled to get off the line so his speed was somewhat negated.
 
In 2021, McVay wanted another DeSean Jackson like he had in Washington, thus Atwell was drafted. He even called him DeSean Jackson Jr. at the time. They then went on to win a Super Bowl without Atwell & the actual DeSean Jackson playing a lot of snaps and he realized that he didn't really need that type of player to have success.

In 2025, McVay realizes that they need to beat press coverage better while at the same time keep defenses honest by stretching the field with speed. Atwell, who knows the offense is re-signed. Adams is brought in while Kupp and Robinson are shown the door.

The season starts and Atwell in 5 games Atwell gets 42%, 43%, 38%, 28%, & 66% snaps share but is rarely targeted as Stafford is funning just about everything to Adams and Nacua.

Atwell hurts his hamstring. Smith & Mumpfield get his snaps while 13 personnel is implemented and the offense blows up. Atwell who offers nothing on special teams is now an afterthought and replaced on the gameday roster by the 4th TE and active roster due to injuries elsewhere (IMO a healthy Quentin Lake and Atwell would have already been activated).

In the end, barring another non-IR injury I suspect Atwell will be activated off IR next week, though he'll probably remain inactive most games. He may be needed against the Lions as they typically keep their 3 LBs on the field allowing the Rams to stress 11 personnel next week. Then again, that may change with the injury to the Lions Brian Branch.

But, if not, Atwell should simply asked to be released.
 
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The player we need to emerge now is Ferguson. Kick that kid in his oversized ass and get him going McVay!
Ferg has missed a couple that he should have had, made a couple of nice 'go up and get it' type of catches, and has been missed by MS9 a couple of times.
It's time for him and Staff to put it all together and be that guy with 5-6 catches, 80-90 receiving yards and a TD on a regular basis.