Trade Up Discussion

[Merlin]

One thing that could use a good RoDing is the possibility of trading up and how it might happen. So...

1. Who do you think warrants a trade-up? Someone always warrants a trade-up.

2. What's the top of our range? I.E. how far up can we get by moving next year's 1st round pick.

Good PFF vid on the subject:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-tQ3rAGqUA

 

[PhillyRam]

I am guessing they could move up with 36, and then hope to move back with 67 to recoup a pick in the top 100ish, assuming they move pick 77 in a trade up.

However, I would prefer as many picks in the top 120 as possible because not seeing a huge drop in quality from pick 40 to 120. There will be a lot of good to solid players in that range.

As for targets?? I assume a top edge like McDonald at the end of rd 1 would be good, so you get that 5th yr, but a lot of solid edge players can be had at 36 or later.

I like Kincade & Mayer, but with so many good TEs, do you trade up for one?

Maybe the best reason to move up is if you get into the 1st, you get that 5th yr option of control.

 

[Merlin]

I have to say since that post I can only come up with one guy I'd move up for, that being Levis. I think he's underappreciated as a starting QB with good upside, I see him as Stafford's replacement if we pick him, and he can sit behind him and learn which is all good. QB would be settled for the future so I'd give up that 2023 first rounder to move up for him if he were to slide. Which I think is ridiculous and won't happen but hey who knows.

Not gonna lie Gibbs would give me pause if he gets very close to 36. Just because at that point you know at any pick he could be going off so why not get a guy who will impact us. Same goes for Robinson, though I'd prioritize Gibbs ahead of him I presume based on McVay's passcatchy preferences.

Then maybe Kincaid. There's rumors he might fall due to neck medical questions, can't remember where I read that and it might be BS. But if he were to get close to us... I do think he's a guy I'd consider moving up to grab.

There's no chance the top wideouts slide because it's now a premium position and a weak group. Opposite of RB.

 

[Riverumbbq]

LOL for not answering my earlier post on this.

As mentioned earlier, I'd like to capture DL Ade Adebawore and OG/OC Steve Avila from this draft, and it may just be necessary to trade up to accomplish this.
Trading #36 and #77 equals 745 points on the trade value chart. The one team I'm often seeing take Adebawore late in the 1'st round is Philadelphia (#30 = 620 trade points), getting ahead of them means the Rams would need to trade up to #29 overall (640 trade points).
If the Rams could make that trade with New Orleans, they (N.O.) would receive #36 & #77, the Rams would get back #115 (4'th round, 64 points) and #146 (5'th round, 32 points).
No telling yet just how high Steve Avila goes in the draft, but I might sit still at our #69 and wait until John Michael Schmitz is taken and once that occurs then determine if another slight trade up becomes necessary to nab Avila.

 

[dang]

LOL for not answering my earlier post on this.

As mentioned earlier, I'd like to capture DL Ade Adebawore and OG/OC Steve Avila from this draft, and it may just be necessary to trade up to accomplish this.
Trading #36 and #77 equals 745 points on the trade value chart. The one team I'm often seeing take Adebawore late in the 1'st round is Philadelphia (#30 = 620 trade points), getting ahead of them means the Rams would need to trade up to #29 overall (640 trade points).
If the Rams could make that trade with New Orleans, they (N.O.) would receive #36 & #77, the Rams would get back #115 (4'th round, 64 points) and #146 (5'th round, 32 points).
No telling yet just how high Steve Avila goes in the draft, but I might sit still at our #69 and wait until John Michael Schmitz is taken and once that occurs then determine if another slight trade up becomes necessary to nab Avila.

I’d be happy if the Rams Got one player from each of these 2 groups:
1) O Torrence/S Avila/JM Schmitz/C Mauch/J Tippman
2) W McDonald/FA-Uzomah/K White/I Foskey/A Adebawore/D Hall.
If they trade down to pick up a 4th AND they get one player from each group that works - but don’t trade down and miss getting one from each group

 

[Merlin]

Made a note to look at Avila, still need to watch him. I am rather taken by Schmitz, his addition would be welcome.

Would not trade up for Adebawore. There are too many other DL that I like for us in rounds 2/3.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Made a note to look at Avila, still need to watch him. I am rather taken by Schmitz, his addition would be welcome.

Would not trade up for Adebawore. There are too many other DL that I like for us in rounds 2/3.

Schmitz only plays Center, not an OG. He may very well be the best Center only, but with Allen & Shelton signed, I'd go with Avila now where he can start at OG in 2023 and then move him to the starting Center job for 2024.

 

[KA210927]

I think there is almost no chance they trade up unless they are absolutely drooling over someone. I think they definitely want more picks and not less.

 

[FrantikRam]

If Bijan Robinson fell to the 20s I'd be tempted. Would take too much though

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Schmitz only plays Center, not an OG. He may very well be the best Center only, but with Allen & Shelton signed, I'd go with Avila now where he can start at OG in 2023 and then move him to the starting Center job for 2024.

At this point Alan shouldn’t be a starter or on the team. Jourdan expects that he gets cut after June 1st. Even if he is not cut and the Rams do start him at center, it’s only a matter of time until he’s injured. So, if they like Schmitz then they should take him. A few extra weeks on the bench to learn won’t hurt anyone.

The only reason I could see them not liking Schmitz is that he is a center only type. But, so was Alan.

 

[So Ram]

If Bijan Robinson fell to the 20s I'd be tempted. Would take too much though

Zach Charbonnet

Terril Lewis being a BUST is what really HURTS The Rams.

Back with Gurley- I wanted Cook from Florida State.Didn’t Cam Akers start over his younger brother?

Instead of Cam Akers The Rams might have been able to move up for Johnathan Taylor.The Fact is both players came out early & a player like Taylor was battle tested. Akers is right NOW only 23.

Here is why I think you’ll see such improvement from a few of these Young Rams.
22
Bobby Brown iii
Kendrick
J.Williams
23
Atwell
E.Jones
Cam Akers
R. Yeast
24
E.Brown —plus plus plus.

I’ve always been big on development & NFL ready.
When moving up it has to be for a certain player & value by position,unless it’s a Great total
Part.

The Rams in hindsight could have drafted Jalen Hurts & then maybe even drafted Cam Akers instead of Van Jefferson . If nothing else AJ Dillion was there..
2017 - Cooks - Kupp - Kittle

This season there is not a need. In 2021 Creed or move up for Dickerson. You could pick all The Bust from 2021. Then again

Brown Bro’s & E.Jones were nice draft picks & Atwell has to shine.
Just don’t understand the DESIRE for WR.The Rams also had DJ1 before the draft. Mentoring only works so well. This Allen Robinson thing is HORRIBLE!!

Maybe The Rams resign A’Shawn Robinson back.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

What type of player would Snead and McVay trade up for?

If Gibbs or Robinson were there, I think they would. If they loved one of the QBs, I think they would.

I don’t think they would for other positions unless they felt one guy was special and they absolutely felt like they couldn’t pass up the chance to get.

I don’t think they trade up unless it’s a QB or RB.

 

[OldSchool]

Only if Nolan Smith dropped or maybe Skoronski though I doubt either drop into the mid/late 20's. Basically no I'm not in favor of trading up.

 

[El Chapo Jr]

Not saying I would but would McVay be tempted to trade up for say Zay Flowers? He seems to like those fast smaller WRs for trade ups. I agree with Gibbs falling though that McVay could also be tempted since we could possibly be losing Cam sooner than later or even dangle him as trade bait next year if he bounces back nicely. I'll throw one out there (doubt it would happen) that would make Ottoman drink his ass off, but Van Ness could be a target if he falls in the 20s too. Be helluva an add next to AD. Gonna be interesting to see what happens.

 

[oldnotdead]

I think they would only move up into the bottom half of the first round for a QB. Any other position wouldn't make sense as there would be a quality player available at 36. The obvious trade partners would be, Detroit at 18 and the Patriots at 14. The Pats need players who can be found in the second and third rounds where they have a need for picks. The caveat would be that the Rams would value the player that much and the only position it would be justified in doing so is for the future QB1.

I think that the way Snead operates, he targets players at least a year in advance. The advantage of taking a QB in the first is the 5th year option. That would allow the Rams to give Stafford two years to get another Lombardi, to give the Rams 2 years to fully develop the QB in McVay's offense and for Sean to tweak it to his strengths and still hold his rights for 3 more years.

At 14 there would be likely to be any number of potential QBs available. As good as Tune is I don't think they see a future #1 tier starter in him. So IMO it would have to be someone else. At 36 McKee is likely to drop to them with Tune being less likely but not impossible. If Tune was their targeted player then they would not have attended his workout publicly as it would draw too much notice.

All of the Ram's needs can be filled with the picks they have. A case in point is that the Rams have IMO obviously targeted players for PK and P because they released Gay and did not replace him with a vet. Dixon was a bad choice last year with 2 blocked kicks being predictable even before he was signed. I think they learned their lesson in regard to their punter circus in the last 2 years. That is why I see them not waiting until the 6th or 7th round. Both positions are underrated for a team's success as they can win or lose games.

They can find starters at edge, CB and ILB with those first 3 picks I have no doubt. If not starters then key rotational players. If ever there was a draft for Snead to stand pat it would be this year. I think he will wait to see who drops to them.

 

[Loyal]

The purpose of this thread is to get everyone to agree with me. TRADE UP FOR JAHMYR! ~ @Merlin

 

[Mojo Ram]

I could easily see a trade up for QB if they love a guy. Otherwise I think the plan is to stockpile on defense.

 

[Flatlyner]

I have to say since that post I can only come up with one guy I'd move up for, that being Levis. I think he's underappreciated as a starting QB with good upside, I see him as Stafford's replacement if we pick him, and he can sit behind him and learn which is all good. QB would be settled for the future so I'd give up that 2023 first rounder to move up for him if he were to slide. Which I think is ridiculous and won't happen but hey who knows.

Not gonna lie Gibbs would give me pause if he gets very close to 36. Just because at that point you know at any pick he could be going off so why not get a guy who will impact us. Same goes for Robinson, though I'd prioritize Gibbs ahead of him I presume based on McVay's passcatchy preferences.

Then maybe Kincaid. There's rumors he might fall due to neck medical questions, can't remember where I read that and it might be BS. But if he were to get close to us... I do think he's a guy I'd consider moving up to grab.

There's no chance the top wideouts slide because it's now a premium position and a weak group. Opposite of RB.

Man, I'd be sick to my stomach if they traded up into the 1st and gave away next years 1st. By all accounts, we are likely picking high in a draft with elite talents (superior to this one by a margin initially). Guess what would add to the likihood of us picking highly next year? Using draft capital to go grab a back up QB. That only improves our team if the worst case scenario happens.

I’d be happy if the Rams Got one player from each of these 2 groups:
1) O Torrence/S Avila/JM Schmitz/C Mauch/J Tippman
2) W McDonald/FA-Uzomah/K White/I Foskey/A Adebawore/D Hall.
If they trade down to pick up a 4th AND they get one player from each group that works - but don’t trade down and miss getting one from each group

I'm with you here. Thats a solid group of guys. I'd throw in a 3rd with the potential CB's:
Banks, Forbes, Smith, Stevenson, Brents, Turner, G. Williams (who Brugler now projects in the 4th, what a goddamn steal he would be there).

 

[Angry Ram]

Do whatever you need to get the player you want.

 

[Flatlyner]

Do whatever you need to get the player you want.

As long as ROD signs off on it