Total tear down to the studs and rebuild feel imminent

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Ram65

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I want to see how all these current mostly young Rams develop. Win or lose it's about watching their progress toward next year. Then to Rams have draft capital and cap space to make another run at a Chip.
 
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If this team is 2-6 after the Dallas game, which is only 2 days before the trade deadline, I think there is more than a 50% chance Stafford restructures his deal and they move him.

Now—that is working under the premise that some other potential playoff team is desperate for QB help. Like if Tua doesn’t stay healthy, or Russ doesn’t work out in Denver, or Jordan Love ends up sucking. If all the playoff teams appear set at QB, than they might hold onto him. But if Miami or someone like that wants to send a handful of day 2 picks for him, I bet Snead does it.
I’ll bet you a million pesos he doesn’t. Besides any restructuring would still leave the Rams with a mountain of dead cap because they backloaded the contract. You actually think Kelly Stafford would allow Matt to give the Rams back money he’s already earned just to play for another team. I have some swamplands on the Florida coast that would be perfect for a beach house.
 

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Yeah giving away money is commonplace in today’s NFL. Nick Bosa wanted 50 million but settled for 34
Stafford’s already made $330M in the NFL. If Les Snead said “hey, you can be our QB for the next 2 years when we are kinda rebuilding and make $80M, or you can play for “x” team that has deep playoff potential and make $55M”….I think Stafford might do it.

Especially if he thinks McVay might bounce.
 

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Stafford’s already made $330M in the NFL. If Les Snead said “hey, you can be our QB for the next 2 years when we are kinda rebuilding and make $80M, or you can play for “x” team that has deep playoff potential and make $55M”….I think Stafford might do it.

Especially if he thinks McVay might bounce.
Stafford can play for free if he wants. That’s doesn’t help the rams who will take a dead cap hit for the money he’s already been paid. It can’t be restructured
 

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8 of our 11 defensive starters are either rookies, drafted 6th round or later, or weren’t drafted at all. Maybe we get lucky and 3 or 4 of those guys pop, and we have something cooking. But if those guys turn out like most 6th round picks and undrafted players, this defense is going to give up points like it’s getting paid to.
Oversimplification I think. This defense has more quality to it than 3 of 11 spots. They're gonna do one thing very badly, that being run defense. But they might outperform expectations vs the pass.

And the pass is what kills you in this league. So we're going to find out if the Rams' tactical building of a defense is good enough to prove a lot of people wrong. I would love nothing more than to eat crow on that.
 

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Yeah fans find it easier to live in the make believe world. Reality is just too difficult.
Agree. It's one thing to not care about the salary cap implications. That's OK. However, it's foolish to just assume there are no negative implications.

The Rams have almost $77M of Dead-$ on their 2023 Salary Cap. The Bengals have $1M
 

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I am still in the boat of trading Donald to Steelers, and start rebuilding. If the Rams aren’t serious on winning then its best to trade Donald to his team and get a lot out of it so we can start the process. Kupp I am hoping will last a few more season but at this point that is asking way too much. Hoping for the best though.
 

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Its hard not to feel the negative vibes. Last year the injury bug hit early and often. Basically took them out of any chance to compete. We haven't even played our first game and one of the few stars we have is out with an injury. I hope it isn't going to be deja vu all over again.
 

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Why the panic? Season hasn't even started and Ram fans panicking? Geez

Regardless of their record this year if they were going to strip down to nuts and bolts and rebuild they would have done it this year. They would have tried to trade Stafford who would have retired. They can't trade AD for one simple fact....a fact that apparently the media doesn't seem to know....AD has a no trade clause in his contract. He will retire before he's traded. So the Rams would have a mountain of deadcap and no players....yep really smart.

Guys like Puka, E. Evans, Avila, Tomlinson, Shelley and Dotson, are genuine weapons. Akers probably will run for 1K yds behind the improved and BIG OL. Jefferson has proved hes an underrated WR, and Atwell looks to have a breakout year. We haven't even talked about Stafford who is now healthy or Durant who more than flashed last year.

Get a grip dude, if even half the draft class shows they can play in the NFL, this team will have the foundation for next year's draft, exactly the way Snead and McVay have planned it. Before the 2021 season how many of these same gloom and doom media types panned the Ram's chances? How many saw a Lombardi in the future? I did and my posts will show it. People mocked me for saying it was a championship roster. Now I'm saying this roster is a lot better than the no nothing media think. Once they start to roll on both sides of the ball, this is a team that can compete with anyone and better than most.

Quit believing in PFF who have already proven they don't know shit. Where do you think the no nothings get their info from? The Bills were media darlings last year just like the Niners are each year. Like the Niners, Buffalo makes it to the playoffs but that's about as far as they get. Their window like the Niners is closing fast as their roster ages.

I think starting next year this OL has the potential of being one of the best the Rams have had in a long time. That alone bodes well for the team going forward.
 

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The 6 game start to the season was brutal with or without Kupp. We have a lot of new faces and it will likely take time.
I may not always be happy with the outcome but I am looking forward to enjoying some Ram football and seeing some of these youngsters step up,
The NFL is back and I am excited to watch
 

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Hope that doesn't happen (being down 0-4) as I am afraid AD might want to move to a contender
We should've traded him in the off-season. Now another year older with literally no talent around him and a questionable secondary, his production will continue to drop.

Honestly I think it was a conscious decision by the front office to save face with the fans so we can sell tickets. A complete tear down and rebuild barely a year after winning the SB would be terrible optics for the franchise.
 

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0-0 at the moment and football’s back. Not gonna write off the season before game 1…

We used to wait till week 8 before we did this in the Spags/Linehan days
The best move of the off-season was saving our 1st rounder!

The question becomes at what point do we tank for Caleb Williams? Because that kid is generational.
 

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I hope we never trade AD no matter what.
Just a thought. Kobe Bryant was a Laker for life. Never wore another teams jersey. He has a God like status in Los Angeles.
Aaron Donald in horns his entire career would actually be amazing for the Rams legacy and the City of Los Angeles.
He is one of the most respected and beloved Rams of all time.

Oh, I'm down with whatever this team does this year. 11 and 6 and make the playoffs or 6 and 11 and long season. As long as the 49's don't win it all, I'm good. GO RAMS!
 

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Yeah, we could use a ROD capologist on this. Sounds to me like MS is essentially not tradeable until 2025:


As for AD, sounds like he too would have a pretty giant dead cap hit (33M?) if he were traded next year?

Snead has repeated often that MS and CK and AD are the "weight bearing walls." Even if the Rams have a terrible season in 2023, I'd anticipate they keep all 3 of their "pillars" for 2024.
 

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The doom and gloom is so annoying. If we end up struggling than we do but it's so weird to me that people just consistently talk so negatively about the team before the season even starts. All teams are 0-0 right now. The truth is we have absolutely no idea how the team is going to perform. None of us are at practice every day to see what the team actually looks like. From all accounts we were at least on par with the raiders and looked better than the broncos in the joint practices.
 

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The doom and gloom is so annoying. If we end up struggling than we do but it's so weird to me that people just consistently talk so negatively about the team before the season even starts. All teams are 0-0 right now. The truth is we have absolutely no idea how the team is going to perform. None of us are at practice every day to see what the team actually looks like. From all accounts we were at least on par with the raiders and looked better than the broncos in the joint practices.

It's bizarre.

Like every single post they enter. I stopped reading long ago. It only takes a sentence to know to steer clear of a doom and gloom post.

Who has the time and energy to read that stuff.

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