Tom Brady suspended 4 games
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RocknRam29
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Yes, it would be nice if the 4 games still stands after his appeal. I would not be surprised if, in the end, Brady's suspension at least gets cut in half with the way Goodell and the NFL dishes out their punishment.
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Oh wow. I didn't know about the other ones. This is unbelievable.
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Which is less nothing really, when his dumbass, literally, wife, makes more than prettyboy does.
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Four Games then comes back in prime time against one of the teams he committed the violation against. Roger Goodell strikes again!
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New England Patriots Quarterback, Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee has released a statement on behalf of Tom to the NFL. Do you think the suspension will stand or get reduced?
STATEMENT:
“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue. #Deflategate
STATEMENT:
“The discipline is ridiculous and has no legitimate basis. In my opinion, this outcome was pre-determined; there was no fairness in the Wells investigation whatsoever. There is no evidence that Tom directed footballs be set at pressures below the allowable limits. In fact, the evidence shows Tom clearly emphasized that footballs be set at pressures within the rules. Tom also cooperated with the investigation and answered every question presented to him. The Wells Report presents significant evidence, however, that the NFL lacks standards or protocols with respect to its handling of footballs prior to games; this is not the fault of Tom or the Patriots. The report also presents significant evidence the NFL participated with the Colts in some type of pre-AFC Championship Game planning regarding the footballs. This fact may raise serious questions about the integrity of the games we view on Sundays. We will appeal, and if the hearing officer is completely independent and neutral, I am very confident the Wells Report will be exposed as an incredibly frail exercise in fact-finding and logic. The NFL has a well-documented history of making poor disciplinary decisions that often are overturned when truly independent and neutral judges or arbitrators preside, and a former federal judge has found the commissioner has abused his discretion in the past, so this outcome does not surprise me. Sadly, today’s decision diminishes the NFL as it tells its fans, players and coaches that the games on the field don’t count as much as the games played on Park Avenue. #Deflategate
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Well it's no wonder why teams are cheating - from pumping crowd noise to basically since belicheck has been in new england
All the punishments are jokes - they're not deterrents; they're justified sacrifices for end goal
draft picks and a million bucks? eh who cares when the tv market split for each team is $200 mil a season
All the punishments are jokes - they're not deterrents; they're justified sacrifices for end goal
draft picks and a million bucks? eh who cares when the tv market split for each team is $200 mil a season
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The thing I hate about this is that the two equipment guys are now suspended without pay for 6 months. They cant really afford this. Multi-gazillionaire Tom Brady though - who instigated the whole thing (they wouldn't have taken air out of the footballs if their QB didn't want them too would they?) gets to rest up for 4 games. Wtf? I really feel sorry for the two guys. I know what they did was wrong but they've been punished out of all proportion to the guy who should have been really punished...
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-equipment-assistant-suspended-indefinitely/
The Deflator, Pats equipment assistant suspended indefinitely
Posted by Darin Gantt on May 11, 2015
It seems safe to assume we have probably seen the last of The Deflator on the Patriots sidelines.
As part of the league’s announcement of the punishment of the team and Tom Brady for #DeflateGate, the Patriots admitted that “employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th.”
Jastremski was an assistant equipment man with the team, and a full-time employee, while McNally was a game-day attendant for the officials locker room, and the self-described “Deflator.”
The league announced that neither can be reinstated without league executive vice president Troy Vincent’s approval, and spells out that: “If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.”
Unless Jastremski is secretly related to Red Sox legend Carl Yastrzemski, it’s hard to imagine him resurfacing with the team, considering the level of contact he had with Bradywhich contributed to the “more probable than not” tampering.
Given McNally’s gameday temp status, and the apparent glee he took in messing with Brady, extorting memorabilia and threatening to go to ESPN in his text messages, it’s a good bet he won’t be hanging around Gillette Stadium any time soon.
The Deflator, Pats equipment assistant suspended indefinitely
Posted by Darin Gantt on May 11, 2015
It seems safe to assume we have probably seen the last of The Deflator on the Patriots sidelines.
As part of the league’s announcement of the punishment of the team and Tom Brady for #DeflateGate, the Patriots admitted that “employees John Jastremski and James McNally have been indefinitely suspended without pay by the club, effective on May 6th.”
Jastremski was an assistant equipment man with the team, and a full-time employee, while McNally was a game-day attendant for the officials locker room, and the self-described “Deflator.”
The league announced that neither can be reinstated without league executive vice president Troy Vincent’s approval, and spells out that: “If they are reinstated by the Patriots, Jastremski is prohibited from having any role in the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs to be used in NFL games during the 2015 season. McNally is barred from serving as a locker room attendant for the game officials, or having any involvement with the preparation, supervision, or handling of footballs or any other equipment on game day.”
Unless Jastremski is secretly related to Red Sox legend Carl Yastrzemski, it’s hard to imagine him resurfacing with the team, considering the level of contact he had with Bradywhich contributed to the “more probable than not” tampering.
Given McNally’s gameday temp status, and the apparent glee he took in messing with Brady, extorting memorabilia and threatening to go to ESPN in his text messages, it’s a good bet he won’t be hanging around Gillette Stadium any time soon.
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Doyel: Brady, Patriots got away with cheating
http://www.indystar.com/story/sport.../?hootPostID=b3b9269a1a30f2fdcb312d713940c99e
http://www.indystar.com/story/sport.../?hootPostID=b3b9269a1a30f2fdcb312d713940c99e
He got away with it. Tom Brady did. So did the Patriots. They got away with it, all of them, because what they did was cheat the Colts in the AFC championship game.
And what they won was the Super Bowl.
Cheaters never win? Tell that to Brady and Bill Belichick and that recidivist rules-breaking organization they call the New England Patriots. They won big. Hell, they won it all.
Brady has been suspended for the first four games of the 2015 season, and the Patriots have been docked $1 million and one draft choice in each of the next two drafts – a first-rounder in 2016, a fourth-rounder in 2017 – and none of it means anything compared to that ill-gotten Lombardi Trophy in Foxborough and those Super Bowl rings being worn by Belichick, Brady and the rest of them.
INDIANAPOLIS STAR
Key points from the NFL's DeflateGate punishment
In the NFL the Super Bowl is the ultimate goal, the only goal. Everything else is a detail. Brady's suspension? A detail.
But that letter Monday from NFL vice president Troy Vincent to the New England organization …
Did you see it? Did you see this sentence, which is enough to make you realize that in Roger Goodell's NFL, cheaters really do win?
"While we cannot be certain when the activity began," Vincent wrote, "the evidence suggests that January 18th was not the first and only occasion when this occurred, particularly in light of the evidence referring to deflation of footballs going back to before the beginning of the 2014 season."
The NFL suspects Brady's been doing this for years.
Common sense told us as much. A cheater is like a cockroach on your kitchen floor. For that one you see, there are 100 or more you don't. That's what common sense told us about the Patriots and the deflated footballs they used to beat the Colts in the AFC title game: This wasn't their first time. To suspect that is one thing. To read as much from the NFL, in its official letter to the Patriots, is something much different, much worse.
"… in light of the evidence referring to deflation of footballs going back to before the beginning of the 2014 season."
INDIANAPOLIS STAR
Doyel: Goodell has to hammer Brady for DeflateGate
How far back? The evidence didn't say. Most of the evidence was based on text messages between the two idiots who got caught, New England locker room attendants I'll call Dumb and Dumber, but the Patriots' dynasty began with the first of four Super Bowls won by Belichick and Brady after the 2001 season. So how far back does this go? We'll never know. But the Patriots' willingness to break rules extends publicly to SpyGate in 2007. Then Deflate-Gate in 2015. You think they didn't cheat in the eight years in between?
How about the six years between 2001 and 2007?
You don't think there are more cockroaches in this kitchen?
The Patriots won this whole thing, believe it. They won the Super Bowl, and they won the penalty phase.
Four games for Tom Brady, who at 38 in August could use a break. A million bucks for a franchise Forbes says is worth $1.4 billion. A first-rounder. A fourth. Those are flesh wounds. They'll draw blood, like so many flesh wounds do, but they won't devastate the Patriots.
And the Patriots should have been devastated. Same for Brady. Not only did they cheat, but they didn't cooperate fully with the investigation. Both locker-room attendants "were not fully candid," according to Vincent's letter to the team, and one of them – I think it was Dumb, though it could've been Dumber – refused to be interviewed a second time.
And Brady, the face of the NFL, refused to turn over relevant emails and text messages. He was hiding something, obviously.
And all he got was four games?
Is that for the cheating, or the obstruction?
INDIANAPOLIS STAR
Reaction to Brady suspension, DeflateGate punishment
Oh, right. It's for both. He cheated the Colts, probably cheated a lot more teams than that, then refused to help the NFL get to the truth … and all he got for it was a lousy four-game suspension.
And a T-shirt that says "2015 Super Bowl Champions."
Brady and the Patriots were punished on Monday? Nah. They were patted on the head and told not to do it again.
As if.
Find Star columnist Gregg Doyel on Twitter at @GreggDoyelStar or atwww.facebook.com/gregg.doyel
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That's it. Hang the piss boy and slap Tommy boy with a wet noodle. BB had no idea...suuuuure. That organization makes me sick.
The one thing that I keep coming back to is how was it possible that the officials did not notice over all that time. I'm going to use the report's nomenclature and say it was "more likely than not" that they must have. Your average joe on the street could immediately tell when handed a 12lb ball. I just can't fathom that a person who handles footballs daily for years didn't notice anything odd. The officials were negligent at best and complicit at worst.
The fact that NE RB's had an advantage over the opposing teams RB should be mentioned too. And what about a play where Edelman passes the ball, for example.
The things we know about and the Ernie Adams stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. If things were just, that filthy, lying, cheating excuse for a team would just be erased.
The one thing that I keep coming back to is how was it possible that the officials did not notice over all that time. I'm going to use the report's nomenclature and say it was "more likely than not" that they must have. Your average joe on the street could immediately tell when handed a 12lb ball. I just can't fathom that a person who handles footballs daily for years didn't notice anything odd. The officials were negligent at best and complicit at worst.
The fact that NE RB's had an advantage over the opposing teams RB should be mentioned too. And what about a play where Edelman passes the ball, for example.
The things we know about and the Ernie Adams stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. If things were just, that filthy, lying, cheating excuse for a team would just be erased.
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Sounds almost fair, 1 million is chump change for a team fine!
Brady's Manager ..
I guess I would be too, 4games no pay will really hit his pocket book too!
But he'll loose any appeal!!
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