Elmgrovegnome
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Heck yeah, you wouldn't?
No way. There have been better backs taken later. James was good but not great. He is not in the same class as Faulk, AP, Bo Jackson, etc.
I believe you are misremembering his NFL impact.
Heck yeah, you wouldn't?
The 1st round running back is just not the way to invest picks anymore. If your team is built and missing a key component (Packers), then maybe. I just personally don't see a reason to take a RB that early. With the proliferation of the spread offense, there are just so many physical specimens out there with very little wear and tear, find a guy who measure favorably and teach him how to tote the rock.
Jerrick McKinnon would be a great example, Isaiah Crowell who the Browns are pretty excited about is another. Do they have the resume of Gurley, not even. But that might be more of a positive.
That's what I'm really hoping for myself. Linebacker is our biggest need, and offensive line is our second biggest. But this team has multiple needs still, and none of them so glaring that they will again be in a good position to take the best player available.Planning on the Rams drafting in the 20's so I hope that a good linebacker is available then!
No way. There have been better backs taken later. James was good but not great. He is not in the same class as Faulk, AP, Bo Jackson, etc.
I believe you are misremembering his NFL impact.
You'd waste a first on Edgerin James part II?
I haven't seen Georgia play. I am going to have to look for Gurley footage but even a great like Herschel Walker can have a limited impact. Stack the board then take BPA at a position of need. If Gurley is so far ahead of any other player available then you take him, if he is rated very close to a QB, LB, FS, OG, then you don't simple. The line is more important than the back. The Rams line of the 80s proved that. ED, Charles White, Greg Bell, all we're 1000 yard rushers and two were retreads brought in when Dickerson was traded.
The 1st round running back is just not the way to invest picks anymore. If your team is built and missing a key component (Packers), then maybe. I just personally don't see a reason to take a RB that early. With the proliferation of the spread offense, there are just so many physical specimens out there with very little wear and tear, find a guy who measure favorably and teach him how to tote the rock.
Jerrick McKinnon would be a great example, Isaiah Crowell who the Browns are pretty excited about is another. Do they have the resume of Gurley, not even. But that might be more of a positive.
Joe Montana was taken in the 3rd round. Kurt Warner was a UDFA. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. Does that mean taking a great but not elite QB in the first round is a poor decision? Better QBs have been taken later.
I didn't realize that a first could be "wasted" on a All Pro caliber player. Yes, I would. I'd also a waste a first on Steve Hutchinson Part II and Ed Reed Part II.
In light of the Georgia RB being suspended I thought I would see where everyone stood on the subject. For me, you have to devise a system that allows these kids to get money.
They aren't allowed to work to get it, and if their parents do not have the financial means it means these guys who bring in millions of dollars are eating cafeteria food or noodles for dinner.
I think it has to be a based pay system. Every player from starting QB to back up Punter, it your on scholarship, you get paid the same. I'm not sure than non scholarship players aren't allowed to work, someone maybe clear that up.
I think the other issue is, if they go to a pay for play system, do the SEC teams get the same allowance as the Sunbelt? Do you make it incentive based? Based on the number of games you win/ you get into tiers? That would allow for added competition for recruits.
I'm not sure what the correct answer is, but I can tell ya, I'm not mad at a kid for taking $400 for signing autographs when I guarentee he has signed tons of crap for the university and they made bank.
So you wouldn't take a RB who ran for the 11th most rushing yards and 19th most rushing TDs of all time in the first round? Seriously?No way. There have been better backs taken later. James was good but not great. He is not in the same class as Faulk, AP, Bo Jackson, etc.
I believe you are misremembering his NFL impact.
So you wouldn't take a RB who ran for the 11th most rushing yards and 19th most rushing TDs of all time in the first round? Seriously?
So I guess Steven Jackson almost certainly wasn't worth a first round pick then?
Receiver is becoming a strong part of the team and Quick is braking out. Why would we waste a pick on receiver? I would take Gurley thoughI say take Gurley or Draft Cooper. If Austin Davis pans out and we can bring back Bradford at a reduced rate then we technically don't have to draft a QB till the following year.
The trouble with this is that I ate cafeteria food and noodles while I was in college and I didn't get a free education. I couldn't work because the time demands on my major were prohibitive. Maybe I could have worked if I chose not to sleep however I was in the studio till 2 or 3 most nights anyways.
Scholarship athletes are paid. They get a free education that is worth 100,000+ . My nephew just graduated and he has a $150,000 debt. I don't understand why the athletes need to be babied and treated better than the rest of the students. They can wait to earn their money just like any other college student and be thankful for what is given to them. Besides that they do get a spending stipend.
I think you misunderstand what I meant. In the present day where good backs are rarely taken in the first round I wouldn't take James in round 1. Was he good? Sure he was good but is he a great? Is he a name that comes to mind when anyone discusses great RBs? No. So if in the current era where good backs are commonly taken later in the draft, if I was going to choose a running back in round 1, then I would need to think he was an Adrian Peterson, Marshall Faulk, E.D. caliber back. What is Gurley? Is he Marshawn Lynch? or is he Edgerinn James? Can he carry a team or is just a really good player on a good team like James was with an elite QB and WRs?
I would redraft Hutchinson and Ed Reed in round 1 first overall, ditto for Faulk, Dickerson, Polamalu. But when you see so many good runningbacks playing well in the NFL today why 'waste' a first round pick on any runningback that is not hall of fame caliber? When you compared Gurley to James he suddenly didn't seem as good as the rest of the thread indicates. Now if you think Gurley is a better version of James? That is different.