ljramsfan said:
Great post man.DR RAM said:I'd just like to add, and this is a good convo going on, that a route tree would look like a stick figured tree if you drew it on a piece of paper. Some offenses have each route numbered, like a #9 is a corner route in this example:
Even numbered routes usually are INS, and odd numbered routes are OUTS.
Here's another example of something closer to what we run:
Now, usually when they say the guy is a bad route runner, what they mean is that he is inconsistent in WHEN he gets from point A to point B, because the QB has to go through a progression after the primary read, or call is taken away. A route should be run the same exact way every time. Same steps, cut off the same foot, etc, so that the QB knows where you will be in the route if he has to throw it your way.
So the QB will look to the next guy in the tree, and now he is starting to run out of time. A lot of these routes are timing routes and the QB throws to a spot where the receiver will be, so if the receiver is not there, because of a bad route, then the QB will miss him, and most people put the blame on the QB, but that's not usually the case.
When they say that a receiver can't run the whole tree, they probably mean that he doesn't have the speed to run certain routes. Some receivers can't get off the line of scrimmage, and this will screw the timing or he might be pushed or run himself out of position.
Most teams run option routes now, which was mentioned earlier, to where the QB and the receiver have to make the same read on the coverage, and the actual route will be determined by that.
If you want to know anything more, please feel free to ask. There is a lot of knowledge on this board.
The "Freak" came out of Quick on that play, which was by far my favorite play for him last season. Sherman is not a little guy, and he tried to jam Quick up, but Quick is so damn strong, and he used it on that play, that he just stiff armed Sherm like a little biatch, then ran right by him. On top of that, BQ broke another tackle to score.Warner4Prez said:
DR RAM said:I'd just like to add, and this is a good convo going on, that a route tree would look like a stick figured tree if you drew it on a piece of paper. Some offenses have each route numbered, like a #9 is a corner route in this example:
Even numbered routes usually are INS, and odd numbered routes are OUTS.
Here's another example of something closer to what we run:
Now, usually when they say the guy is a bad route runner, what they mean is that he is inconsistent in WHEN he gets from point A to point B, because the QB has to go through a progression after the primary read, or call is taken away. A route should be run the same exact way every time. Same steps, cut off the same foot, etc, so that the QB knows where you will be in the route if he has to throw it your way.
So the QB will look to the next guy in the tree, and now he is starting to run out of time. A lot of these routes are timing routes and the QB throws to a spot where the receiver will be, so if the receiver is not there, because of a bad route, then the QB will miss him, and most people put the blame on the QB, but that's not usually the case.
When they say that a receiver can't run the whole tree, they probably mean that he doesn't have the speed to run certain routes. Some receivers can't get off the line of scrimmage, and this will screw the timing or he might be pushed or run himself out of position.
Most teams run option routes now, which was mentioned earlier, to where the QB and the receiver have to make the same read on the coverage, and the actual route will be determined by that.
If you want to know anything more, please feel free to ask. There is a lot of knowledge on this board.
My route tree that I played was closest to this:MontanaRamsFan said:DR RAM said:I'd just like to add, and this is a good convo going on, that a route tree would look like a stick figured tree if you drew it on a piece of paper. Some offenses have each route numbered, like a #9 is a corner route in this example:
Even numbered routes usually are INS, and odd numbered routes are OUTS.
Here's another example of something closer to what we run:
Now, usually when they say the guy is a bad route runner, what they mean is that he is inconsistent in WHEN he gets from point A to point B, because the QB has to go through a progression after the primary read, or call is taken away. A route should be run the same exact way every time. Same steps, cut off the same foot, etc, so that the QB knows where you will be in the route if he has to throw it your way.
So the QB will look to the next guy in the tree, and now he is starting to run out of time. A lot of these routes are timing routes and the QB throws to a spot where the receiver will be, so if the receiver is not there, because of a bad route, then the QB will miss him, and most people put the blame on the QB, but that's not usually the case.
When they say that a receiver can't run the whole tree, they probably mean that he doesn't have the speed to run certain routes. Some receivers can't get off the line of scrimmage, and this will screw the timing or he might be pushed or run himself out of position.
Most teams run option routes now, which was mentioned earlier, to where the QB and the receiver have to make the same read on the coverage, and the actual route will be determined by that.
If you want to know anything more, please feel free to ask. There is a lot of knowledge on this board.
I see this, and think back to my coaching days. Our routes were numbered differently and some of the yardage marks were different too, but everyone has a little different system and terminology. What do you think about creating a weekly post discussing a different facet of the game and then have a quiz to test everyone's football knowledge.
He is a round one receiver if he "gets it," and I think he will get it, but I don't know when. Quick, not competing on a couple plays last season, really pissed me off, and was a red flag for me, so I hope that those plays were an aberration. The youth of our receivers will keep me vexed, until they un-vex me, but the pieces of the puzzle are there, AND there are some darn fine pieces.shaunpinney said:DR RAM said:
I hope you're right Dr Ram - we need him to play like a Rd2 WR this year
