49'ers The San Francisco 49’ers Thread

[dang]

another whiner quarterback
with the Rat-boy game plan
but he can't lead the team
out of a garbage can
now they choke the super bowl as a 3 pt favorite
they hate their life and throw a hissy fit
the sorry whiner fans will always be tools
they'll never win it all, they'll never be cool

Keep on chokin' on the big one
dare nare nare nare nare nare

We’re onto something. I’ll see what it’ll take to bring Neil onboard.

 

[dang]

From our old friend Nick Wagoner...

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- As various San Francisco 49ers filed through the locker room at their facility, less than 48 hours removed from losing Super Bowl LVIII to the Kansas City Chiefs in overtime, the enormity of that devastating defeat had already sunk in. They just didn't want to believe it.

At one end of the locker room, defensive end Nick Bosa told reporters he needed time to digest the loss before looking to next season. At the other, left tackle Trent Williams, usually one of the team's most thoughtful and expansive interviews, had little to say. Others -- such as running back Christian McCaffrey, tight end George Kittle, receiver Deebo Samuel, fullback Kyle Juszczyk and quarterback Brock Purdy -- described their upcoming grieving process.

All of them -- including coach Kyle Shanahan -- had declined to re-watch what took place at Allegiant Stadium. None were sure they'd be able to stomach it anytime soon. But they made it clear that what happened in Vegas certainly won't stay there.

"It really hit me, and then it would go away then it hit me again and it's just like it don't even feel real," Samuel said. "It's a different type of feeling. Like I don't even have the answer. ... It's like one of the biggest heartbreaks you can deal with."

Dealing with heartbreak has become an unwanted offseason tradition for the 49ers. It started with their loss to the Chiefs in Super Bowl LIV to conclude the 2019 season. In 2021, they fell short in the NFC Championship Game against the Los Angeles Rams. In 2022, they played most of another NFC Championship Game without a healthy quarterback in what became a blowout loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.

In each season, the Niners had taken a different, occasionally circuitous path to get back on Lombardi's doorstep. The final defeat was always difficult to swallow but was often buoyed by an internal belief they could return.

To their credit, the Niners have put action behind those beliefs. But Super Bowl LVIII seemed to hit the hardest. Not just because they lost a game that was there for the taking, but also because of the cumulative effect of the previous near misses. And they might be running out of chances to rectify them, at least in their current iteration.

"It's gut-wrenching," general manager John Lynch said. "And ultimately, we're going to have to live with for a lifetime the reality that we didn't get it done this time. But I say this time because that's this time. It hurts. And right now, everyone's grieving.

"It's not just going to be okay right away, but you understand that the only thing you can do is use this fuel to propel us forward. And that's where our mindsets are at, or at least where they will arrive at some point."

Getting to that point might take a little longer this time given just how close the Niners came to winning the franchise's long-coveted but elusive sixth Lombardi Trophy. The memories of a third-quarter punt bouncing off cornerback Darrell Luter Jr.'s foot, the missed protection by guard Spencer Burford against Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones on a key third down in overtime, the Chiefs blocking Jake Moody's fourth-quarter extra point and countless other plays that could have swung the game in San Francisco's favor will linger.

Kyle Shanahan hasn't re-watched the 49ers' Super Bowl LVIII loss to the Chiefs yet and really isn't in a hurry to. Kirby Lee/USA TODAY Sports
It's why the only player in the 49ers' locker room who acknowledged re-watching the Super Bowl less than two days after it concluded was linebacker Fred Warner. The previous Super Bowl loss was the conclusion of Warner's second NFL season, and he believed at the time his team would be able to get back and get the job done in short order.

Four years and another Super Bowl loss later, Warner calls that mindset the naïveté of a young player who didn't recognize how hard it is to get there or the scars that losing a Super Bowl can leave behind. While Warner's takeaway from his Super Bowl LVIII re-watch was pride in his team's effort, he knows that it won't be easy to climb the mountain again even if San Francisco -- as expected -- retains most of its star, veteran nucleus in 2024.

"It gets easier, but it is going to stay with you all the way through," Warner said. "The thing that gives me hope is knowing how much it means to me, how much it means to this organization, how much it means to Kyle and the players and John, and the things that make up a championship team.

"I know we have those things. You got to act the way of a champion before you are a champion. And so, I know it's not a thing of if it is just when, and it sucks that it wasn't this time."

The when part of the equation dominates any 49ers discussion. The likes of Warner, Bosa, Kittle, McCaffrey, Samuel and Williams are under contract for 2024 and beyond. Purdy currently has a meager cap charge of $1.004 million in 2024 and $1.119 million in 2025.

There are, of course, questions that must be answered amid the grieving. Wideout Brandon Aiyuk is due for a contract extension. The Niners would like to keep him long-term but his ascent (75 receptions for 1,342 yards and seven touchdowns in 2023) has driven that cost up.

Shanahan has a handful of coaches to replace, including defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, who was fired three days after the season ended. Linebacker Dre Greenlaw has an arduous recovery from the torn left Achilles he suffered in the Super Bowl.

From a roster standpoint, the offensive line, defensive line and secondary require immediate attention. Receiver and linebacker aren't far behind.

For now, players have gone their separate ways and will move past this loss in whatever way -- and on whatever timeline -- they see fit. For Bosa, that means returning home to Florida and taking a little time off before getting back to his workout regimen. Kittle, Juszczyk and McCaffrey have already headed to Cabo San Lucas, Mexico, for their annual offseason getaway. Purdy is in the final stages of planning for his March wedding.

Upon returning from Las Vegas, Shanahan spent his first night at home hanging out and watching Netflix with his family, avoiding anything that had to do with the Super Bowl. He says he won't watch it until he's "ready to or when I have to." He doesn't know when that will be. He does know that if his team is going to crack the code to finally winning it all, he's going to have to be back and eager to attack the next climb sooner than later.

"This is real," Shanahan said. "You do have to grieve this. ... I think our guys are going to be hungry as ever coming back from this."

2 words nail it for me. “Delicious Tears”.

 

[Steve808]

It must hurt more when you talk smack and can't back it up.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but don't you always notice the whiner players almost always need to get in the last shove or the last words after a play? They can't just line up and play football.

 

[OldSchool]

Reading a lot of whiners media and fans talk about Staley. They all seem to thin he's unlikely based on their personnel bring a 4-3 defense and Staley is a Fangio type of 3-4 guy. I think that's silly and hope they pass on him.

 

[den-the-coach]

Reading a lot of whiners media and fans talk about Staley. They all seem to thin he's unlikely based on their personnel bring a 4-3 defense and Staley is a Fangio type of 3-4 guy. I think that's silly and hope they pass on him.

IMO, Nick Sorenson will be their next DC, now maybe they go Staley, but they went external with Wilkes and it did not work out, that is why I believe Shanahan wants an internal hire.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I am glad Vrabel seems to be out of the running.

 

[OldSchool]

IMO, Nick Sorenson will be their next DC, now maybe they go Staley, but they went external with Wilkes and it did not work out, that is why I believe Shanahan wants an internal hire.

This is even more evidence that it won't be Staley IMO.


View: https://twitter.com/mattbarrows/status/1762556672071881090?

 

[Merlin]

Reading a lot of whiners media and fans talk about Staley. They all seem to thin he's unlikely based on their personnel bring a 4-3 defense and Staley is a Fangio type of 3-4 guy. I think that's silly and hope they pass on him.

My take as well. Staley would be a good hire for them. Lot of DCs come back to coordinator with fire in their ass and I'd rather these bastards don't benefit from that.

Hire some guy in house. Much preferred. They'll still be a pain on defense due to quality of the roster but I prefer come the big games they have some potential holes in calls and prep due to inexperience. Best lessons after all are learned the hard way.

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1762947299276144820?t=lBIhoVScRmhiGItTCxyARg&s=19

 

[dang]

I had the best dream this past weekend. I dreamt the 49ers had another 10 point lead in the Super Bowl and they fuckin’ blew it….AGAIN!!! Man if only dreams like that would come true.

 

[Psycho_X]

I had the best dream this past weekend. I dreamt the 49ers had another 10 point lead in the Super Bowl and they fuckin’ blew it….AGAIN!!! Man if only dreams like that would come true.

 

[RamDino]

I had the best dream this past weekend. I dreamt the 49ers had another 10 point lead in the Super Bowl and they fuckin’ blew it….AGAIN!!! Man if only dreams like that would come true.

It's not a dream. If you include the NFC Championship games, it has been playing out that way for the last 5 years or so.

 

[OldSchool]

Was funny reading Chefs fans cry about potentially losing the coach to the Whiners as DC. They say it's unfair they've had a possible 4th poached with this guy in 8 years total.

That's a single offseason in LA

 

[AZRams]

Was funny reading Chefs fans cry about potentially losing the coach to the Whiners as DC. They say it's unfair they've had a possible 4th poached with this guy in 8 years total.

That's a single offseason in LA

LOL.

Walk a mile in another team's shoes...

 

[RamBall]

Was funny reading Chefs fans cry about potentially losing the coach to the Whiners as DC. They say it's unfair they've had a possible 4th poached with this guy in 8 years total.

That's a single offseason in LA

Kinda makes you wonder why the league hasnt been raiding the chefs coaching staff. They have won 3 Super Bowls in 5 yrs and nobody wants their coaches? Or does Andy block them from interviewing?

 

[OldSchool]

Kinda makes you wonder why the league hasnt been raiding the chefs coaching staff. They have won 3 Super Bowls in 5 yrs and nobody wants their coaches? Or does Andy block them from interviewing?

Can't block them from head coach interviews anymore. I think the big thing is they're playing late into the playoffs every year and most teams want to get their coach hired.

 

[Psycho_X]

Kinda makes you wonder why the league hasnt been raiding the chefs coaching staff. They have won 3 Super Bowls in 5 yrs and nobody wants their coaches? Or does Andy block them from interviewing?

Because they have Matt Nagy and Steve Spagnuolo as their coordinators. Two people who crashed and burned spectacularly as Head Coaches. Chiefs can probably ride with both of them forever and not have to worry about them getting poached.

 

[Merlin]

Because they have Matt Nagy and Steve Spagnuolo as their coordinators. Two people who crashed and burned spectacularly as Head Coaches. Chiefs can probably ride with both of them forever and not have to worry about them getting poached.

That's the holy grail man. Having a top coordinator nobody will touch on the opposite side of the ball as the source expertise of your HC.

Just behind that is a top OL coach who doesn't have aspirations to be OC. That's gold as well.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Kinda makes you wonder why the league hasnt been raiding the chefs coaching staff. They have won 3 Super Bowls in 5 yrs and nobody wants their coaches? Or does Andy block them from interviewing?

Because only one team has patrick Mahomes and no team can poach him away from the chiefs. Without him they would have zero superbowl wins.

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[Elmgrovegnome]

That's the holy grail man. Having a top coordinator nobody will touch on the opposite side of the ball as the source expertise of your HC.

Just behind that is a top OL coach who doesn't have aspirations to be OC. That's gold as well.

At first I thought that was McVay’s angle when it was reported that he was interviewing Ron Rivera.