I was more frustrated by the tripping call that negated a Tavon TD, and the TD that Quick just flat-out dropped.
Aware that this is only a portion of what you are trying to say, but i'm sure that at least 2 of Sam's pick 6's were tipped passes, or when his arm was hit mid-throw.
yeah I was annoyed by all of them... Remember the 4th and goal play in the Rams first trip into the endzone when he threw the ball out of bounds? And his second trip into the redzone he focused on Cook but had a wide open Pettis in the corner for an easy 6 points. See I remember those plays and I remember Quick dropping the td, and Long's bonehead play that prevented the long td to Tavon
well I know the Panthers one was... but you know some QBs feel pressure and can slide and dip a little to avoid getting hit. All you have to do is watch Sam run the very same play in the second half of that game and look at him step up into the pocket to avoid the same pressure.
That's not what he's saying though. Those tipped passes weren't the result of pressure. I'll post a video of all of them though, and you can judge for yourself.
Can we talk about this briefly? And let me preface it by saying I wasn't impressed with him either in those games. But. As it relates to the 49ers game, is it possible that Bradford had very little chance to succeed in that game when the run game accounted for 18 yards on 19 carries, while our rushing defense allowed 219 yards on 40 carries (with 3 TDs)? And Kaepernick only accounted for 11 of those yards, so it's not something the QB had any part of. With Richardson and Cunningham proving to be totally ineffective, Bradford was forced to throw 41 times against the 4th ranked pass defense in the league (2nd at the time of the game though).
Oh and X for a 6'5 QB Bradford seemed to have an inordinate number of batted passes at the los. My guess is it's because of the high number of passes Bradford attempts within 5 yards of the los (remember our discussion the other day regarding his very low 6.2 career ypa) Any thoughts on that? I will say the batted passes seemed to go way down when Clemens played.... But I'm open to hear other theories
I've always wondered about the batted passes thing. I think it's a product of another issue I brought up with him, and that's the idea that he finds the isolation matchup in his presnap read (which is fine), but follows that guy until he gets to the top of his route tree. That gives defensive linemen the opportunity to follow his eyes and time his delivery. I suspect that's something Cignetti is working on with him too.
Can we talk about this briefly? And let me preface it by saying I wasn't impressed with him either in those games. But. As it relates to the 49ers game, is it possible that Bradford had very little chance to succeed in that game when the run game accounted for 18 yards on 19 carries, while our rushing defense allowed 219 yards on 40 carries (with 3 TDs)? And Kaepernick only accounted for 11 of those yards, so it's not something the QB had any part of. With Richardson and Cunningham proving to be totally ineffective, Bradford was forced to throw 41 times against the 4th ranked pass defense in the league (2nd at the time of the game though).
The Dallas game was bad too, but these graphics say more than I can about the O-line and run game/run defense that day.
Honestly, for me, I put WAY more emphasis on how the rest of the team performs if I'm looking at why a QB lost.
I opened this thread expecting to see the sentence finished with..the more I think we got the best d-lineman in the draft,it was OK the way it played out, but IMO my completion is true.
Yep. I remember that play. The one where Pettis threw his hand up and Bradford didn't take enough off the ball. But now we're getting into perfection territory. Agreed it would have been nice to get 7 there instead of 3, but it was not smooth sailing, offensive or defensively for the Rams, from there on out either. In the Cowboys game, I already said I'm not absolving him of any wrong doing, but what happened to him is what happened to Manning in the Super Bowl. Was Manning to blame for that? I suppose so. But at some point you have to give another team credit where its due. When we smacked the Colts around, I wouldn't necessarily characterize Luck as being the reason for it. If I was a Colts fan, I would say it was our defense's fault and I hope we never have to play the Rams again. See what I'm getting at?
In the one against AZ, that's a snap judgement call. Either take as much off of it as you can without floating it over the RB (for a sure interception), or tuck it down and try to get away without taking a safety (unlikely). Remember, all of that takes place in a one second time-frame. Good play by AZ? In the second one against ATL, he could have taken a little off of that ball; but at the same time, if you're collecting a check, CATCH the ball. That wasn't a bullet. It was a fluke how it bounced up so high, so I'd say just bad luck and not enough touch. In the third one against SF, no fault of his whatsoever. That's what everyone expects him to be able to do. Throw up a contested ball at a predetermined point, and hope (count on) your receiver to out-muscle the defender for the play. The last one was a fluke. He planted and threw, and luckily for CAR, someone was able to hit his arm during the release. The result was a floater, and the fact that it was returned for a TD is absolutely not his fault.
