The Goff thread to end all Goff threads

[GoodBadUgly]

I don't think they should, as long as they're about hyping up the new QB and not criticizing the old one. People should get excited for Stafford. He's the guy now. Unfortunately, many of those threads turn into talking trash about how Goff can't do X or Y and other hyperbolic stuff. (Blows my mind that people think a Pro Bowl pocket passer can't read defenses.) So at this point, I have just started avoiding them.

I'm excited about Stafford. I was excited when we got Goff, and excited during his many good games.

But what's worse? Sharing frustration that he slept through a couple of games this season and lowered our chances for a SB, or writing "as long as they're not criticizing the old one"?

I'm just stating my opinion and sharing frustration. You're saying people should refrain from criticizing their former QBs. What is this, Nazi Germany?

Sheesh.

 

[jrry32]

I'm excited about Stafford. I was excited when we got Goff, and excited during his many good games.

But what's worse? Sharing frustration that he slept through a couple of games this season and lowered our chances for a SB, or writing "as long as they're not criticizing the old one"?

I'm just stating my opinion and sharing frustration. You're saying people should refrain from criticizing their former QBs. What is this, Nazi Germany?

Sheesh.

QBs have bad games. I have some bad news for you: Matt Stafford is going to have at least one bad game here. I hope you aren't going to resort to implying that he didn't put the effort in when that happens. You created this thread for no other reason than to take a shot at Goff. It's weak. And don't invoke Nazis because I criticized you. That's even weaker.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

QBs have bad games. I have some bad news for you: Matt Stafford is going to have at least one bad game here...and don’t invoke Nazis because I criticized you. That's even weaker.

You are truly missing the point. Of course QBs have bad games, but from all I know of Stafford, he is the last guy that would be accused of sleepwalking thru games.

However, I do apologize for the Nazi comparison. Out of line. Just top of mind since I’m watching “Man in the High Tower” on Amazon...

 

[jrry32]

You are truly missing the point. Of course QBs have bad games, but from all I know of Stafford, he is the last guy that would be accused of sleepwalking thru games.

However, I do apologize for the Nazi comparison. Out of line. Just top of mind since I’m watching “Man in the High Tower” on Amazon...

Could easily say he sleptwalked through this game:

Detroit Lions at Carolina Panthers - November 22nd, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Detroit Lions 0 at Carolina Panthers 20 on November 22nd, 2020 - Full team and player stats and box score

www.pro-football-reference.com

But I don't think most QBs have bad games because they didn't care or didn't put in the work. Goff got his ass handed to him in some of his bad games last year. I never doubted the guy's desire to be out there. If he didn't want to be there, he could have taken himself out of the game at any time with an "injury."

 

[Classic Rams]

He's gonna have his motivation, sure. But what else can the Lions do. Jared will have a few games of motivation and then reality hits and he turns the ball over in others. He's gonna play how he played for the Rams, with less talent and no defense on the other side and a new coach. That's about as far as that goes. This is just a story to get clicks.

 

[kurtfaulk]

But what else can the Lions do.

The centre can give him longer than 1 second on 3rd and long.

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[PARAM]

I think this may be the best thing to happen to Goff. Detroit rebuilding with a competent front office. Away from McVay where he wasn't in a win-win situation.

1. Do well? It's because of McVay!
2. Do poorly? You suck!

He now gets the chance to show whether he's a 1 system QB or not. He's got skills.

 

[kurtfaulk]

I think this may be the best thing to happen to Goff. Detroit rebuilding with a competent front office. Away from McVay where he wasn't in a win-win situation.

1. Do well? It's because of McVay!
2. Do poorly? You suck!

He now gets the chance to show whether he's a 1 system QB or not. He's got skills.

i said this before and after the trade.

goff will never get his props with mcvay's shadow looming over him. at least when he plays well now nobody can say mcvay is a genius.

what's the bet when stafford plays well nobody is gonna say mcvay's a genius? they're gonna say finally, finally stafford is allowed to show what a great qb he is. book it down now.

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[Reddog99]

Jareds a good kid. I'm hoping Detroit turns things around and he has a successful career there. It's unlikely but it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the Lions take over the NFC North.

 

[I like Rams]

Some of ya'll need to to look in the mirror. Many of you have a player that was either on this team or in the league, that you do not like and will not admit anything they do right. Theres always an excuse for your hate. Same goes for those who love certain players. You will never admit their faults. I've seen plenty of you have standards for certain players but do not apply those same standards to another. These threads are pointless bc noone wants to admit their biases.

 

[Angry Ram]

He's gonna have his motivation, sure. But what else can the Lions do. Jared will have a few games of motivation and then reality hits and he turns the ball over in others. He's gonna play how he played for the Rams, with less talent and no defense on the other side and a new coach. That's about as far as that goes. This is just a story to get clicks.

I wonder who he's gonna throw to tho? Both starting WRs are on other teams so TJ Hockenson is the only sure thing left. They can draft a guy like the Alabama WR if he's there or trade up, but if they are gone? Even if they are available are rookies going against some pretty good defenses in that division.

 

[OldSchool]

Something some Rams fans can learn from.


View: https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1374023053613662209?s=21

 

[Mojo Ram]

The centre can give him longer than 1 second on 3rd and long.

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Yeah the middle collapsing was an issue at times, but yet Jared seemed unprepared for it and the blitz in general far too often when he had to know it was coming. Whether or not this was a coaching/gameplanning issue, we'll know this year. I suspect not.

 

[jrry32]

I wonder who he's gonna throw to tho? Both starting WRs are on other teams so TJ Hockenson is the only sure thing left. They can draft a guy like the Alabama WR if he's there or trade up, but if they are gone? Even if they are available are rookies going against some pretty good defenses in that division.

Right now, Tyrell Williams and Breshad Perriman are the top two WRs with Hockenson and Swift also expected to be major factors in the passing game. But I agree they definitely will need to draft a WR in the first two rounds if they aren't going to sign another.

 

[OldSchool]

Right now, Tyrell Williams and Breshad Perriman are the top two WRs with Hockenson and Swift also expected to be major factors in the passing game. But I agree they definitely will need to draft a WR in the first two rounds if they aren't going to sign another.

And they’re in a good spot to add one and a pass rusher with their first two picks.

 

[Faceplant]

Rams lose to Washington when Warner is sacked with 17 second left by Arrington on the Washington 13 (the LOS was the 6) and fumbles, game over.

I was at that fucking game....it was the only game I ever saw him play live.

 

[Faceplant]

On the Goff subject, yeah....I don't get why anyone would bother to throw shade. Even if you really don't like him for some reason. He's a Lion now, so I would assume that a Goff hater got exactly what they wanted.

Me? I am just super sad that it didn't work out. I was a huge Goff supporter, as I am for all Rams QBs. I will also admit that I was absolutely flabbergasted at some of his play last season. It was almost surreal how bad it could be at times. Other times, he looked exactly like the guy we thought would retire a Ram with multiple rings. Frustrating. I wish him the best with his career, and it will be hard not to keep track of his progress in Detroit....at least this coming season.

Disclaimer: He is dead to me, like all non Ram players, the day we host them in LA....and any other time we play him going forward.

 

[GoodBadUgly]

... I am just super sad that it didn't work out. I was a huge Goff supporter, as I am for all Rams QBs. I will also admit that I was absolutely flabbergasted at some of his play last season. It was almost surreal how bad it could be at times. Other times, he looked exactly like the guy we thought would retire a Ram with multiple rings. Frustrating. I wish him the best with his career, and it will be hard not to keep track of his progress in Detroit...

Yes, this is exactly my sentiment. Frustration.

People try to paint me as a Goff-hater. Couldn't be further from the truth. I hope he lights it up in Detroit and kicks the crap out of every other NFC team not called Rams (also helping us in playoff seeding!)

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Could easily say he sleptwalked through this game:

Detroit Lions at Carolina Panthers - November 22nd, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Detroit Lions 0 at Carolina Panthers 20 on November 22nd, 2020 - Full team and player stats and box score

www.pro-football-reference.com

But I don't think most QBs have bad games because they didn't care or didn't put in the work. Goff got his ass handed to him in some of his bad games last year. I never doubted the guy's desire to be out there. If he didn't want to be there, he could have taken himself out of the game at any time with an "injury."

McVay’s comments could have been construed as Goff maybe was not putting the same amount of work in prior to games. So maybe bad games = bad practice habits or study habits. I really think much of the speculation confirmed some fans suspicions of what was going on. In their mind at least. Either way it cannot be proven or disproven.

The centre can give him longer than 1 second on 3rd and long.

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The lines offensive line was full of drive killers at least through the first five games that I watched. Holds, false starts, penalties were bad. Hopefully they got a good Oline coach and Kneecap can bring some discipline to the unit.

i said this before and after the trade.

goff will never get his props with mcvay's shadow looming over him. at least when he plays well now nobody can say mcvay is a genius.

what's the bet when stafford plays well nobody is gonna say mcvay's a genius? they're gonna say finally, finally stafford is allowed to show what a great qb he is. book it down now.

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That is an absurd statement.

Goff did need McVays help. From how it looked, even this season Goff still struggled to read defenses after they shifted.

McVay had to trim down the offense to help Goff be successful.

Stafford is an 11 year veteran. Nobody is going to give McVay credit for Stafford’s ability. Maybe he will get some credit for molding his game plan to Stafford’s strengths, but Stafford could go anywhere and still be a very good QB. I’m not so sure Goff can reach his peak performances under McVay ever again.

 

[jrry32]

McVay’s comments could have been construed as Goff maybe was not putting the same amount of work in prior to games. So maybe bad games = bad practice habits or study habits. I really think much of the speculation confirmed some fans suspicions of what was going on. In their mind at least. Either way it cannot be proven or disproven.

Eerily similar to Mike Martz trashing Kurt Warner on his way out. Maybe the defense simply got one over on a young QB.