The All-22: How did Jared Goff lose his game so quickly?

[brasilcalif]

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/...-how-did-jared-goff-lose-his-game-so-quickly/

Read all the way ( if you can stomach ) . I was concerned about Goff , reading this only made my concerns grow like 1000 % .

 

[Rainram]

There's A LOT I disagree with in that article.

While disappointed in Goff's play (...and the play of many others...and some of the game plans as well), I am not all that concerned about him. He'll right the ship and get back in a groove starting 4 days from now.

 

[TexasRam]

There were only two 300 yard passers in week 15. Can you guess them?

1 Jared Goff
2 Phillip Rivers

I’ve rewatched the Eagles game multiple times now.

I know creating drama makes for a good story.

But I wonder if people realize that if Natson doesn’t fumble or Gurley gets out of bounds, the Rams score 30 points which is right in line with their season average.

Watch the first half again and see that Goff is throwing dimes driving the ball down the field like he always does.

Same Goff. Same machine like offense.

Drives were stalled for a few reasons:

1 Reynolds failing to fight for a ball
2 Robert Woods blocking penalty
3 Sullivan unable to block Cox
4 Sullivan stepping on Goff foot, Goff
failing to recover.
5 Natson fumble
6 Gurley failing to get out of bounds

Still Goff drives the team down the field and is one pass away from tying the game and 30 points, on what should have been called pass interference.

The whole story of what happened is more accurate then cherry picking plays and mismrepresenting stats as on Goff.

 

[Ramrasta]

Goff just needs to take better care of the football, that’s it. We lose the game when we lose the turnover battle.

 

[Faceplant]

I think the writer makes some valid points and it is hard to argue some of them. It is also lazy to just state that Goff has reverted back to his college tendencies. This is the NFL. It's fucking hard out there. Tom fucking Brady and Drew fucking Brees haven't exactly been lighting it up over the past couple of games either. Have they fallen into a hot tub time machine and gone back 40 years to their college days? Lolz....

I expect Goff to steady himself and make fools of the haters......again.

 

[JIMERAMS]

There were only two 300 yard passers in week 15. Can you guess them?

1 Jared Goff
2 Phillip Rivers

I’ve rewatched the Eagles game multiple times now.

I know creating drama makes for a good story.

But I wonder if people realize that if Natson doesn’t fumble or Gurley gets out of bounds, the Rams score 30 points which is right in line with their season average.

Watch the first half again and see that Goff is throwing dimes driving the ball down the field like he always does.

Same Goff. Same machine like offense.

Drives were stalled for a few reasons:

1 Reynolds failing to fight for a ball
2 Robert Woods blocking penalty
3 Sullivan unable to block Cox
4 Sullivan stepping on Goff foot, Goff
failing to recover.
5 Natson fumble
6 Gurley failing to get out of bounds

Still Goff drives the team down the field and is one pass away from tying the game and 30 points, on what should have been called pass interference.

The whole story of what happened is more accurate then cherry picking plays and mismrepresenting stats as on Goff.

This^^^^^ to much panic out there. Goff only had like 2 incompletions in the first half

 

[El caliente]

Saints fan here, and admittedly I haven’t followed Goff’s career up until this year when you guys became our #1 threat in the NFC.

From an outsiders perspective, yeah, he has dropped off a bit from the first part of the season, but let’s not get carried away here. The writer is playing loose with the numbers and mixing opinion with facts. Goff is just going through adversity, and all great qbs have done the same at some point in their young careers. Heck, my guy Drew Brees faced adversity up until the year before he came to New Orleans, and even then he came to us having to fight a shoulder injury.

What I am trying to say is, your kid from Cal will get through this valley. He got through the Jeff Fisher years so you know he can get through anything after that disaster. I am not saying he is going to be the next Manning, Rodgers, or Brees, but he is going to be alright. He and McVay need to add a few new wrinkles to the game plan and you guys will be right as rain.

Here’s to hoping for a rematch in the playoffs.

 

[RamsSince1969]

Since that recent game the Cowboys neutralized the Saints, our opponents had a "eureka" moment. In SB 2001 Cheatriots figured out if they stop Faulk coming out of the backfield by holding him and beating the crap out of him on every play and you might have a chance. Well, we have teams trying that "46" type 8 man front to rattle Goff and stop Gurley (i'm no expert on D schemes so the "46" reference was just an example of what I think they are trying against us more often lately). We also seem to have lost the vert game as the O-line guys look worn out and tired after 14 games and need a break (there was only a 4 man rush when Goff got sacked in the 2nd quarter last Sunday). McVay will figure this out and it sucks to lose, but we are so fortunate that the Kryptonite for our Superman has been exposed before the playoffs.

 

[El caliente]

Since that recent game the Cowboys neutralized the Saints, our opponents had a "eureka" moment. In SB 2001 Cheatriots figured out if they stop Faulk coming out of the backfield by holding him and beating the crap out of him on every play and you might have a chance. Well, we have teams trying that "46" type 8 man front to rattle Goff and stop Gurley (i'm no expert on D schemes so the "46" reference was just an example of what I think they are trying against us more often lately). We also seem to have lost the vert game as the O-line guys look worn out and tired after 14 games and need a break (there was only a 4 man rush when Goff got sacked in the 2nd quarter last Sunday). McVay will figure this out and it sucks to lose, but we are so fortunate that the Kryptonite for our Superman has been exposed before the playoffs.

I’ll second this. As a Saints fan, and watching every game, and knowing how we use Kamara (like you guys used Faulk), I am noticing linebackers and safeties coming up and roughing Kamara up before he is able to get separation. They weren’t doing this before. And if you are running a well oiled, well timed machine even a fraction of a second lost will throw everything off. Teams are doing that with Michael Thomas too, and our high octane offense is being slowed down.

I think this all legal by the way (contact within 5 yards and all), so we just need to plan accordingly.

 

[Giles]

Love goff but he needs to go for the checkdown when they take away the deep stuff.

 

[brasilcalif]

There were only two 300 yard passers in week 15. Can you guess them?

1 Jared Goff
2 Phillip Rivers

I’ve rewatched the Eagles game multiple times now.

I know creating drama makes for a good story.

But I wonder if people realize that if Natson doesn’t fumble or Gurley gets out of bounds, the Rams score 30 points which is right in line with their season average.

Watch the first half again and see that Goff is throwing dimes driving the ball down the field like he always does.

Same Goff. Same machine like offense.

Drives were stalled for a few reasons:

1 Reynolds failing to fight for a ball
2 Robert Woods blocking penalty
3 Sullivan unable to block Cox
4 Sullivan stepping on Goff foot, Goff
failing to recover.
5 Natson fumble
6 Gurley failing to get out of bounds

Still Goff drives the team down the field and is one pass away from tying the game and 30 points, on what should have been called pass interference.

The whole story of what happened is more accurate then cherry picking plays and mismrepresenting stats as on Goff.[/QUOTEo

 

[MadGoat]

I’ll second this. As a Saints fan, and watching every game, and knowing how we use Kamara (like you guys used Faulk), I am noticing linebackers and safeties coming up and roughing Kamara up before he is able to get separation. They weren’t doing this before. And if you are running a well oiled, well timed machine even a fraction of a second lost will throw everything off. Teams are doing that with Michael Thomas too, and our high octane offense is being slowed down.

I think this all legal by the way (contact within 5 yards and all), so we just need to plan accordingly.

I overloaded on Saints players in fantasy football, so I've watched way more of them than I normally do. I kind of questioned the home/away offense narrative for Brees & Co. but man it appears to be real. It's really a three way split Home/Away dome/Away outdoors. The great news for the Saints is that the rest of their season will be spent either in New Orleans, or in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium packed with Saints fans. Outside of the Saints possibly resting their starters week 17, I expect we'll see a dominant Saints offense over the rest of the season and the playoffs.

Meanwhile, the Rams offense will look better against the Cards and the Niners, but will likely face the Bears in Soldier Field West to open the playoffs.

 

[brasilcalif]

There were only two 300 yard passers in week 15. Can you guess them?

1 Jared Goff
2 Phillip Rivers

I’ve rewatched the Eagles game multiple times now.

I know creating drama makes for a good story.

But I wonder if people realize that if Natson doesn’t fumble or Gurley gets out of bounds, the Rams score 30 points which is right in line with their season average.

Watch the first half again and see that Goff is throwing dimes driving the ball down the field like he always does.

Same Goff. Same machine like offense.

Drives were stalled for a few reasons:

1 Reynolds failing to fight for a ball
2 Robert Woods blocking penalty
3 Sullivan unable to block Cox
4 Sullivan stepping on Goff foot, Goff
failing to recover.
5 Natson fumble
6 Gurley failing to get out of bounds

Still Goff drives the team down the field and is one pass away from tying the game and 30 points, on what should have been called pass interference.

The whole story of what happened is more accurate then cherry picking plays and mismrepresenting stats as on Goff.

What about the fact he missed everet and gurley wide open for Tds in a ROW ?

 

[brasilcalif]

I overloaded on Saints players in fantasy football, so I've watched way more of them than I normally do. I kind of questioned the home/away offense narrative for Brees & Co. but man it appears to be real. It's really a three way split Home/Away dome/Away outdoors. The great news for the Saints is that the rest of their season will be spent either in New Orleans, or in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium packed with Saints fans. Outside of the Saints possibly resting their starters week 17, I expect we'll see a dominant Saints offense over the rest of the season and the playoffs.

Meanwhile, the Rams offense will look better against the Cards and the Niners, but will likely face the Bears in Soldier Field West to open the playoffs.

wtf ? if we win out we don't face the bears in solider face , they will come to US . Check our record and check the bears record .

 

[RamsAndEwe]

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Mark Twain

I find myself at a Cajun Christmas sipping on a mint julip, agreeing with Samuel Clements and a New Orleans's fan-

The writer is playing loose with the numbers and mixing opinion with facts. Goff is just going through adversity, and all great qbs have done the same at some point in their young careers.

I'll believe my eyes, thank you very much. And from afar, these eyes of Texas and TexasRam see/saw

Same Goff. Same machine like offense.

Drives were stalled for a few reasons:

1 Reynolds failing to fight for a ball
2 Robert Woods blocking penalty
3 Sullivan unable to block Cox
4 Sullivan stepping on Goff foot, Goff
failing to recover.
5 Natson fumble
6 Gurley failing to get out of bounds

Clearly statistics can't define Sullivan stepping on Goff's foot. Sullivan can't step on a fraction? What did he step on? One quarter? Or three eighths? The article's writer is a hollow man, stuffed with straw, peddling clickbait. He is a mutt.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5JXrP8yv8o

 

[brasilcalif]

Love goff but he needs to go for the checkdown when they take away the deep stuff.

What concerns me is 2 things :

1- He can't see wide open receivers and choose to force the ball into tight coverage too often . You can see that every play he took too long to throw , there was a receiver or gurley wide open , but he never saw them , he was like fixed in one target waiting for that target to get separation . He then , holds on to the ball forever , gets sacked ( or strip sacked ) or force the ball for incompletion or PICK .

2- His accuracy is completly off . He is completing 50 % of his passes only in the last 3 games , he is throwing horrible balls EVEN when the pocket is completely clean ( check everet and gurley throws last game for example )

 

[badnews]

Pffff

So much reactionary smoke blowing and hand ringing.
This is the first time a young QB has had a rough streak after losing his best target and a significant drop off in protection?
This is the first time a team has clinched early and got too comfortable?

It's getting stupid.

2 years with McVay+Goff.
2 NFC West Championships.
2 Pro bowl QB seasons.
22 of 32 reg season wins, possibly 24.

The evidence suggests the Rams are a great team to be a fan of right now.

 

[Zodi]

There were only two 300 yard passers in week 15. Can you guess them?

1 Jared Goff
2 Phillip Rivers

I’ve rewatched the Eagles game multiple times now.

I know creating drama makes for a good story.

But I wonder if people realize that if Natson doesn’t fumble or Gurley gets out of bounds, the Rams score 30 points which is right in line with their season average.

Watch the first half again and see that Goff is throwing dimes driving the ball down the field like he always does.

Same Goff. Same machine like offense.

Drives were stalled for a few reasons:

1 Reynolds failing to fight for a ball
2 Robert Woods blocking penalty
3 Sullivan unable to block Cox
4 Sullivan stepping on Goff foot, Goff
failing to recover.
5 Natson fumble
6 Gurley failing to get out of bounds

Still Goff drives the team down the field and is one pass away from tying the game and 30 points, on what should have been called pass interference.

The whole story of what happened is more accurate then cherry picking plays and mismrepresenting stats as on Goff.

Excellent post.

I'd also like to mention how our defense still cant stop the run and continues to give up big plays in the passing game.

 

[RamDino]

I don't think that Jared Goff is the problem. In my opinion, the entire team has not been the same since the KC game. It's almost as if the Rams played their Super Bowl (beating KC in a magical game), and this is the letdown that was bound to happen after that. The O-line isn't playing well, Gurley is hurt, Donald is being double-teamed on every play and NO ONE on the D has stepped up, we are still getting gashed in the run game, special teams haven't been good... have I missed anything? Look at what the secondary gave up the other day... not one but TWO receivers behind the entire Rams secondary? WTF? I can't figure it out, but I know the Rams are a better team than this. Hopefully Sunday cures everything. Go Rams.

 

[bluecoconuts]

What about the fact he missed everet and gurley wide open for Tds in a ROW ?

Gurley the pass was slightly too high, it happens, Everett cut the wrong way if I'm remembering correctly.