The All-22: How did Jared Goff lose his game so quickly?

[tklongball]

Good lord. Defenses have adjusted, and our OL isn't playing well.

I didn't see anything in that article about the OL. That is quite possibly one of the worst QB Critique articles I have ever read. He acts as if the QB operates independent of anything else going on on the field, and clearly doesn't understand when/why a QB would throw the ball away.

He clearly sucks because Defenses are adjusting to what the rams do? Laughable.

Sorry, if you ever write an article about a struggling QB, Run Game, or Offense, and you use exactly ZERO words talking about the Offensive Line, you simply don't understand football.

 

[brasilcalif]

Gurley the pass was slightly too high, it happens, Everett cut the wrong way if I'm remembering correctly.

He is throwing slightly too high passes too often in the last 3 games don't you think? That was an easy throw for Gurley that would have changed the game. Clean pocket. Can't miss that. And about Everett we are not sure if he cut the wrong way or Goff just missed.

 

[MSchmidt]

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/...-how-did-jared-goff-lose-his-game-so-quickly/

Read all the way ( if you can stomach ) . I was concerned about Goff , reading this only made my concerns grow like 1000 % .

Willie McGinnist said on the NFL Network that it’s obvious to him that Defenses aren’t giving a presnap read until AFTER Coach/QB communication cuts out, leaving Goff on his own to pre diagnose where he’s supposed to go w the ball.

I’m thinking though, if that’s really the issue, then why not just stay in hurry up offense all the time?

Surely if that’s the issue, our coaches can figure that out right?

 

[El caliente]

Excellent post.

I'd also like to mention how our defense still cant stop the run and continues to give up big plays in the passing game.

Yeah about your defense still giving up to the run, I can explain that one. Your defensive line coach is a man by the name of Bill Johnson. He was here with the Saints coaching the dline before he was fired and went to you guys. He stinks.

When he was here our dline was always horrible, and was a clear weakness to our team. Fast forward a year (same players, same scheme) and our dline is our strength, and we are the #1 defense. You guys have more talent on your dline than just about any team in the NFL, but your not performing up to an expected standard.

I’m not saying Bill Johnson is your only problem, I’m just saying he is your biggest.

 

[Jacobarch]

I have to agree with the others on this thread. I read the whole thing and while he brings up some interesting points but there are other factors that need to be addressed. Oline is playing terribly, plain and simple they have so many leaks they would make a public school jealous on a rainy day. Ok bad joke, but still you have to address the whole issue not just one piece to the puzzle. And another thing, WR's and Gurely (sans Woods) haven't been on the same page as Goff either. Reynolds always seems slow to react, isn't in position to make the play, or just whiffs on it completely. That throw in the endzone at the end of the game was a perfectly placed ball. The guy doesn't even try to jump for it. That's frustrating. Cooks has been a great addition to the rams but he often misses his reads vs. zone coverage's. It's happened numerous amounts of times and I'm not sure if it's a misread by Goff or Cooks, but that usually goes against the WR in most cases.
Gurely has been hurt and he's not playing like his usual self. He's dropped balls whiffed on some easy plays like getting out of bounds at the end of the Eagles game and so on...

The entire team has stunk it up the last 3 weeks and here's my theory why, THEY ARE MAILING IT IN! You can tell. Re-watch the last game and tell me those guys are giving it 100%. There were countless times when the camera would look over at the sidelines and guys were laughing and joking around when they were down big in the 3rd and 4th quarter. That's called being lax, and McVay needs to put a stop to that. Everyone keeps on asking what happened to this team after the Bye week? We won the West, that's what happened and now guys have taken their foot off the gas and not playing 100%.
Want more proof. Look at Talib in the first two quarters of the game. He was getting man handled by Jefferys. There were a handful of plays where it looked like he simply stopped running. WTF? His facial expression said it all and thats all i needed to see.
It's obvious that we have already won our division and possibly a first round bye and maybe that's the way McVay is drawing it up, i dunno. But it's not a good way to go into the playoffs. Then again it could be perfect if we end our slump by seasons end. We'll see what we look like the next couple of weeks.

 

[MachS]

The issue is he's lost faith in the oline after them getting obliterated the past month. He's feeling pressure in the pocket when its not there again. Ive seen very, very bad play from him the last few weeks.

Can he turn it around if our protection remains an issue? Hes not the QB to succeed if he consistently gets moved off his spot. Hes a rhythm and timing passer. His accuracy goes to shit honestly when he starts getting hit a lot.

 

[brasilcalif]

I have to agree with the others on this thread. I read the whole thing and while he brings up some interesting points there are other factors that need to be addressed. Oline is playing terribly, plain and simple they have so many leaks they would make a public school jealous on a rainy day. Ok bad joke, but still you have to address the whole issue not just one piece to the puzzle. And another thing, WR's and Gurely (sans Woods) haven't been on the same page as Goff either. Reynolds always seems slow to react, isn't in position to make the play, or just whiffs on it completely. That throw in the endzone at the end of the game was a perfectly placed ball. The guy doesn't even try to jump for it. That's frustrating. Cooks has been a great addition to the rams but he often misses his reads vs. zone coverage's. It's happened numerous amounts of times and I'm not sure if it's a misread by Goff or Cooks, but that usually goes against the WR in most cases.
Gurely has been hurt and he's not playing like his usual self. He's dropped balls whiffed on some easy plays like getting out of bounds at the end of the Eagles game and so on...

The entire team has stunk it up the last 3 weeks and here's my theory why, THEY ARE MAILING IT IN! You can tell. Re-watch the last game and tell me those guys are giving it 100%. There were countless times when the camera would look over at the sidelines and guys were laughing and joking around when they were down big in the 3rd and 4th quarter. That's called being lax, and McVay needs to put a stop to that. Everyone keeps on asking what happened to this team after the Bye week? We won the West, that's what happened and now guys have taken their foot off the gas and not playing 100%.
Want more proof. Look at Talib in the first two quarters of the game. He was getting man handled by Jefferys. There were a handful of plays where it looked like he simply stopped running. WTF? His facial expression said it all and thats all i needed to see.
It's obvious that we have already our division and possibly a first round bye and maybe that's the way McVay is drawing it up, i dunno. But it's not a good way to go into the playoffs. Then again it could be perfect if we end our slump by seasons end. We'll see what we look like the next couple of weeks.

Solid post they are obviously not giving 100%.

 

[kurtfaulk]

His accuracy goes to crap honestly when he starts getting hit a lot.

so does every other qb in the league.

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[Jacobarch]

so does every other qb in the league.

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So true

 

[MadGoat]

wtf ? if we win out we don't face the bears in solider face , they will come to US . Check our record and check the bears record .

I don't think you read that very carefully. "Soldier Field West" AKA The Coliseum filled with Bears fans.

 

[TexasRam]

What about the fact he missed everet and gurley wide open for Tds in a ROW ?

Great QB’s miss throws every game. Happens literally every game with Brees and Brady.

I noticed on a few of these that Goff is sliding to his left, to evade a collapsing pocket, not easy throws.

But there is no doubt that the Goff’s timing is off. The two games that Goff has struggled (Bears and Philly) so happen to have Pro Bowl DT pass rushers right over our weak link pass protector Sullivan. (Hicks and Cox).

What I see in the Philly game is Goff hurrying throws in anticipation of a pass rusher coming up the middle thus some of the inaccuracy. The Bears game was different. Goff hadn’t rushed his passes because he didnt expect the pass rush to get him that fast. Thus two interceptions because he is being hit as he throws. And of course the half time hail marry which shouldn’t count.

The Philly game was Goff purposely speeding up his timing as a result of the Bears game in which he was getting hit much earlier than normal. And Goff had a pretty solid game against Philly with those timing adjustments.

Remember the 1999 Rams vs Warren Sapp and the Bucs Defense? Guess how many points the Rams scored vs that defense?

11 points. 6 of which Came on a prayer TD at the end to Rickey Proehl.

We scored 6 vs the Bears. Great defenses can be tough.

 

[Rainram]

Yeah about your defense still giving up to the run, I can explain that one. Your defensive line coach is a man by the name of Bill Johnson. He was here with the Saints coaching the dline before he was fired and went to you guys. He stinks.

When he was here our dline was always horrible, and was a clear weakness to our team. Fast forward a year (same players, same scheme) and our dline is our strength, and we are the #1 defense. You guys have more talent on your dline than just about any team in the NFL, but your not performing up to an expected standard.

I’m not saying Bill Johnson is your only problem, I’m just saying he is your biggest.

I’ve been keeping an eye on this since he got here. I was really hoping we’d keep Waufle, who was a great DLine coach.

 

[Jacobarch]

I’ve been keeping an eye on this since he got here. I was really hoping we’d keep Waufle, who was a great DLine coach.

what a weird hire. To hire a guy that doesn't have a good track record with Dline coaching. Could be a main issue.

 

[Giles]

What concerns me is 2 things :

1- He can't see wide open receivers and choose to force the ball into tight coverage too often . You can see that every play he took too long to throw , there was a receiver or gurley wide open , but he never saw them , he was like fixed in one target waiting for that target to get separation . He then , holds on to the ball forever , gets sacked ( or strip sacked ) or force the ball for incompletion or PICK .

2- His accuracy is completly off . He is completing 50 % of his passes only in the last 3 games , he is throwing horrible balls EVEN when the pocket is completely clean ( check everet and gurley throws last game for example )

I believe that is by design. Mcvay and Goff love attacking down the field and it usually works. Lately teams having been taking away the deep stuff and giving us the short stuff. Jared needs to take that.
We have a lot of good yac players mcvay and goff need to use then for that purpose even if it means going against what they want to do.
The accuracy and turnovers are a concern but I'm not worried.
Goff is still a franchise quarterback at only 24.

 

[jrry32]

He didn't "lose" his game. JFC.

 

[BriansRams]

I'd also like to mention how our defense still cant stop the run and continues to give up big plays in the passing game.

"Wade will get it figure out..."

 

[BriansRams]

11 points. 6 of which Came on a prayer TD at the end to Rickey Proehl.

We scored 6 vs the Bears. Great defenses can be tough.

So then. How can we win playoff games against great defenses?

 

[gabriel18]

See Marc Bulger . Clean pocket and light it up . Constant pressure in your face makes it tough .

 

[brasilcalif]

Despite putting 30 points he also struggled against Detroit

Great QB’s miss throws every game. Happens literally every game with Brees and Brady.

I noticed on a few of these that Goff is sliding to his left, to evade a collapsing pocket, not easy throws.

But there is no doubt that the Goff’s timing is off. The two games that Goff has struggled (Bears and Philly) so happen to have Pro Bowl DT pass rushers right over our weak link pass protector Sullivan. (Hicks and Cox).

What I see in the Philly game is Goff hurrying throws in anticipation of a pass rusher coming up the middle thus some of the inaccuracy. The Bears game was different. Goff hadn’t rushed his passes because he didnt expect the pass rush to get him that fast. Thus two interceptions because he is being hit as he throws. And of course the half time hail marry which shouldn’t count.

The Philly game was Goff purposely speeding up his timing as a result of the Bears game in which he was getting hit much earlier than normal. And Goff had a pretty solid game against Philly with those timing adjustments.

Remember the 1999 Rams vs Warren Sapp and the Bucs Defense? Guess how many points the Rams scored vs that defense?

11 points. 6 of which Came on a prayer TD at the end to Rickey Proehl.

We scored 6 vs the Bears. Great defenses can be tough.

 

[brasilcalif]

so does every other qb in the league.

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Not at that rate. All qbs will decline their game when under pressure. Goff took it to another level by becoming the worst qb in the NFL when under pressure. He went from top 5 to the second worst ( stats don't lie).