That oline!!

[Angry Ram]

*Edit*

Nvm.

@Merlin i get it now

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUF9BPOXfcE

What I think you're trying to say is that the Rams O line was league average last year, not terrible like people are/were saying it was.

Pretty much. They played well most of the year, and had some games where they struggled. That sounds like any given team TBH. That's pretty much the norm no? If a complete random person logged on here and read some of the posts, you would think the QB would be running for his life every down of every game.

https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/la-rams-offensive-line-outlook-for-2021

Analytics Site Calls the Rams Offensive Line a Top 10 Unit

The entire Los Angeles Rams offensive line group has been tabbed as a top 10 unit by one national analytics website for this upcoming season.

heavy.com

2020 Los Angeles Rams Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Check out the 2020 Los Angeles Rams Advanced Stats including passing, rushing, receiving, defense stats and more on Pro-Football-Reference.com.

www.pro-football-reference.com

Here are some others for comparisons. The Browns and Bucs are considered to have one of the best lines in the league. Josh Allen had an absolute studly season. Now compare that lines like Houston and Seattle.

There are a TON of articles out there, and NFL.com itself with raw #s. Again, someone explain to me how an OL was bad that was one of the better ones in sacks allowed, top 10 run game, and really on par with a couple of the best OLs in the league. Not only that, the men in charge did not bother to revamp any of the line the past 2 offseasons except for 1 7th rounder.

I believe you hate Goff so much that you are completely blind to the offensive line's woes last year with our center as the weak link.

This has nothing to do with my bitterness towards the former QB. I'm not gonna blindly agree on this topic when there's plenty that supports my claim.

So if you actually want to discuss how the line wasn't a problem last season, I'm all for it.

 

[bubbaramfan]

Now I'm as confused as blind lesbian in a fish market.....

 

[FarNorth]

Have to agree here, Kevin Carberry and his assistant Nick Jones have done an outstanding job so far and many of us wondered who was this Kevin Carberry? Quickly realizing that Brian Allen was his best option at center and designing the blocking scheme to take advantage of everyone's strength has to be attributed to this fine young Offensive Line Coach.

This!!!

It took Carberry all of one weekend in camp in person to uninstall Corbett at center, move him to guard, and reinstall Allen at center. The results are spectacular. Season changing.

 

[Angry Ram]

Now I'm as confused as blind lesbian in a fish market.....

Yeah well when you get accused of making stuff up, get ignored on a response, have your post sarcastically "hahad", provide sources to backup your claim, then ignored again, I'd be confused too.

 

[1maGoh]

If McVay wanted to, he could keep Carberry from interviewing for the OC position.

I doubt he would thou

I thought they added coordinators to positions that couldn't be blocked. I thought that was why we saw an those passing/running/third down on a full moon game coordinator hires during the off season.

 

[Kupped]

This!!!

It took Carberry all of one weekend in camp in person to uninstall Corbett at center, move him to guard, and reinstall Allen at center. The results are spectacular. Season changing.

Except Carberry worked with them all Spring and didn’t make the move until late in camp.
He made the right call and is doing a great job, but that’s not quite the timeline.

 

[blackbart]

Except Carberry worked with them all Spring and didn’t make the move until late in camp.
He made the right call and is doing a great job, but that’s not quite the timeline.

When the pads go on things change

 

[Kupped]

When the pads go on things change

Absolutely. And they clearly made the right call!!

 

[FarNorth]

Except Carberry worked with them all Spring and didn’t make the move until late in camp.
He made the right call and is doing a great job, but that’s not quite the timeline.

Not exactly. Carberry missed the first week of camp from July 28 with a positive covid test. He came back on maybe August 4 a couple of days before the scrimmage with the Cowboys on Saturday August 7. By Monday McVay all but confirmed that Allen was the starter.

Basically as soon as Carberry saw Allen in a real scrimmage against another team Allen was named the starter. It was a fast 180 turnaround.

 

[Tano]

I thought they added coordinators to positions that couldn't be blocked. I thought that was why we saw an those passing/running/third down on a full moon game coordinator hires during the off season.

I was not aware of that- maybe someone can verify that

 

[1maGoh]

I was not aware of that- maybe someone can verify that

I thought this was going to be way harder.

NFL teams can no longer block assistant coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions

Assistant coaches no longer can be blocked from interviewing for coordinator jobs on other teams.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[hotanez]

I thought this was going to be way harder.

NFL teams can no longer block assistant coaches from interviewing for coordinator positions

Assistant coaches no longer can be blocked from interviewing for coordinator jobs on other teams.

sports.yahoo.com

How about a lateral move from OC to OC or DC to DC? I could swear that McVay blocked Stanley from taking O'Connell.

 

[1maGoh]

How about a lateral move from OC to OC or DC to DC? I could swear that McVay blocked Stanley from taking O'Connell.

He did. I think it's just promotions, iirc.

EDIT: I reread the article. They must be a "bona fide" promotion, subject to review and approval by God-Emperor Goodell.

 

[Kupped]

Not exactly. Carberry missed the first week of camp from July 28 with a positive covid test. He came back on maybe August 4 a couple of days before the scrimmage with the Cowboys on Saturday August 7. By Monday McVay all but confirmed that Allen was the starter.

Basically as soon as Carberry saw Allen in a real scrimmage against another team Allen was named the starter. It was a fast 180 turnaround.

I get your point.
Timeline of Spring, etc remains the same.
I'm just not buying into some narrative that he saw something others didn't, as *seems* to be being suggested. If that's not the point, apologies.

For example:

“If you were to say (who is) one of the standouts of camp, Brian Allen’s definitely one of those guys for me,” McVay said.

Rams’ Brian Allen is back in the center of the action

Out since a November 2019 knee injury, the former starting center is listed as the first-stringer on the season’s first depth chart.

www.ocregister.com

Again.. the line is kicking ass and I think Carberry has a great deal to do with it.

 

[OldSchool]

A mod on another site made the comparison that Allen is the new Troy Hill. A guy fans worried about being on the field yet was good in the end.


View: https://twitter.com/JCohen_NFL/status/1443320236409774082

 

[OldSchool]

View: https://twitter.com/QBsMVP/status/1442836815724138502?s=20


I‘m a fan of good oline play.

 

[OldSchool]

And Arizona could be without three starting oline.


View: https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1443979356188073984

 

[oldnotdead]

Matthew Stafford heaps praise on Brian Allen: 'He thinks like the quarterback'

Matthew Stafford had some incredibly good things to say about Brian Allen. “He’s making protection calls as I’m thinking them.”

theramswire.usatoday.com

It's my understanding that Carberry always wanted Allen as the starter. But Sean for whatever reason wanted to shift Corbett to center. I think from statements made at the time of Corbett's acquisition that Corbett was the Ram's first choice as a center but got taken before their pick came up. So they went to plan B which was Allen. Basically, McVay wanted to go back to their original position plan.

But it was clear to Carberry that Corbett was clearly behind Allen in his development as a Center. During the joint practices with Vegas McVay saw for himself what exactly Carberry was telling him. Corbett's ability to make the proper pass protection calls weren't nearly as good as Allen's. It's exactly why he was benched as a center in Cleveland.

Corbett is a damn good OG and that is why he was moved back to the vulnerable RG position.

It's clear from what Stafford is saying about Allen that it was the right move. Remember Stafford had an excellent center in front of him in Detroit. These are things I heard way back in OTAs which is why I kept saying Allen was the best choice for the position. McVay simply needed to trust what Carberry was telling him. To his credit, he did when he could see it for himself.

It's also why I'm saying the weak point inside is David Edwards. Hopefully, he will improve his consistency as he gains experience. He still has lapses in his technique which is why he gave up the one and only sack. But I overtook it to a degree as it was while going against Vita Vea who is one of the top DT's in the NFL. I watched him at UW and knew he was one of the best DTs in his draft.

Overall this OL is actually playing up to the expectations of the Ram FO that assembled them. It's why the bungling of their coaching was a huge sore point for me and why I'm saying the hiring of Carberry for the OL is on the same level of trading for Stafford. Carberry has raised the level of play by the OL to that next level. He's getting the most out of his guys. I have never been a fan of Edwards at LG but if Carberry is okay with it I feel more than comfortable with Edwards and will enjoy watching him develop. He simply needs to become more consistent in his play.

 

[Kupped]

Matthew Stafford heaps praise on Brian Allen: 'He thinks like the quarterback'

Matthew Stafford had some incredibly good things to say about Brian Allen. “He’s making protection calls as I’m thinking them.”

theramswire.usatoday.com

It's my understanding that Carberry always wanted Allen as the starter. But Sean for whatever reason wanted to shift Corbett to center. I think from statements made at the time of Corbett's acquisition that Corbett was the Ram's first choice as a center but got taken before their pick came up. So they went to plan B which was Allen. Basically, McVay wanted to go back to their original position plan.

But it was clear to Carberry that Corbett was clearly behind Allen in his development as a Center. During the joint practices with Vegas McVay saw for himself what exactly Carberry was telling him. Corbett's ability to make the proper pass protection calls weren't nearly as good as Allen's. It's exactly why he was benched as a center in Cleveland.

Corbett is a damn good OG and that is why he was moved back to the vulnerable RG position.

It's clear from what Stafford is saying about Allen that it was the right move. Remember Stafford had an excellent center in front of him in Detroit. These are things I heard way back in OTAs which is why I kept saying Allen was the best choice for the position. McVay simply needed to trust what Carberry was telling him. To his credit, he did when he could see it for himself.

It's also why I'm saying the weak point inside is David Edwards. Hopefully, he will improve his consistency as he gains experience. He still has lapses in his technique which is why he gave up the one and only sack. But I overtook it to a degree as it was while going against Vita Vea who is one of the top DT's in the NFL. I watched him at UW and knew he was one of the best DTs in his draft.

Overall this OL is actually playing up to the expectations of the Ram FO that assembled them. It's why the bungling of their coaching was a huge sore point for me and why I'm saying the hiring of Carberry for the OL is on the same level of trading for Stafford. Carberry has raised the level of play by the OL to that next level. He's getting the most out of his guys. I have never been a fan of Edwards at LG but if Carberry is okay with it I feel more than comfortable with Edwards and will enjoy watching him develop. He simply needs to become more consistent in his play.

Give me one quote that backs up the assertion about Carberry.
Edwards mauled Buckner a few times. I wouldn’t call any of the three a weak point. They all get it done.

 

[Tano]

View: https://twitter.com/QBsMVP/status/1442836815724138502?s=20


I‘m a fan of good oline play.

I don't think I ever saw a pancake last year from the center position

Last year Goff would have been sacked on that same exact play because he would have had half the time what Stafford got on that play

And that's why we saw so many roll-outs, play action passes, WR screens, draw plays, etc (especially on 3rd and long).

Allen has been a godsend this year.