That oline!!

[NJRamsFan]

Nah dude. We're gonna disagree. Again I didn't see a sieve. No better nor worse than any other line in the league.

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Nvm.

@Merlin i get it now

 

[1maGoh]

Nah dude. We're gonna disagree. Again I didn't see a sieve. No better nor worse than any other line in the league.

Not better or worse than any other line? So you are saying, or rather you just said, that every offensive line in 2020 performed exactly the same. They all performed at the same level as the Rams O line? I'm sure that's not what you meant because that's absurd. Could you explain for those of us, like me, having trouble trying to figure out what you're saying here?

At face value, you're saying that every line performed at the same level and implying that any perceived difference in level of play is solely due to the quality of QB. Again, that's absurd so I don't think that's what you meant. If that were the case, never drafting o linemen would be a viable strategy. You could pick up street free agents as long as you have a good QB.

What I think you're trying to say is that the Rams O line was league average last year, not terrible like people are/were saying it was.

I'm willing to accept that there are other options I haven't considered, so I'd be interested to hear what you were actually trying to say.

 

[Tano]

Nah dude. We're gonna disagree. Again I didn't see a sieve. No better nor worse than any other line in the league.

I believe you hate Goff so much that you are completely blind to the offensive line's woes last year with our center as the weak link.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on the offensive line's play last year especially on 3rd and long.

 

[den-the-coach]

Regardless, all of us can relax the trepidation of the OL play. They have solid talent and depth and now are very well coached. They have faced 3 consecutive quality DL fronts and have stoned them. The OL is a strength of this team, no longer to be considered a question mark or weakness. Carberry should get all the credit for that.

Have to agree here, Kevin Carberry and his assistant Nick Jones have done an outstanding job so far and many of us wondered who was this Kevin Carberry? Quickly realizing that Brian Allen was his best option at center and designing the blocking scheme to take advantage of everyone's strength has to be attributed to this fine young Offensive Line Coach.

I have also been impressed with Assistant OL Coach Nick Jones who played Center at Georgia and was the snapper during Matthew Stafford's time with the Bulldogs. LG David Edwards has really played well and the draft that the Rams took Noteboom & Allen in 2018 and then David Edwards in the 5th round in 2019 has made the regime look good to this point combined with Sean McVay's ability to recognize good coaching talent.

 

[Tano]

Have to agree here, Kevin Carberry and his assistant Nick Jones have done an outstanding job so far and many of us wondered who was this Kevin Carberry? Quickly realizing that Brian Allen was his best option at center and designing the blocking scheme to take advantage of everyone's strength has to be attributed to this fine young Offensive Line Coach.

I have also been impressed with Assistant OL Coach Nick Jones who played Center at Georgia and was the snapper during Matthew Stafford's time with the Bulldogs. LG David Edwards has really played well and the draft that the Rams took Noteboom & Allen in 2018 and then David Edwards in the 5th round in 2019 has made the regime look good to this point combined with Sean McVay's ability to recognize good coaching talent.
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I guess Carberry is going to be a head coach next year

 

[So Ram]

This is a very true statement. The one who can not be praised enough is ROBERT WOODS. His blocking is consistently lights out.

Van Johnson made a nice block to free Copper Kupp on a screen play.They timing on plays makes a big difference.It goes to the coaching & attention to detail on a lot of the plays The Rams are running.

 

[BonifayRam]

A decade in decade out I still believe that in order to compete in the NFL you must prioritize your D & O lines.

My top priority position has always remained to keep your attention focus at all times on the OL, grooming, selection of the right players & keeping a large reserve unit throughout the season.

In this, the bottom line is that this team will be competitive in almost all games.

 

[bubbaramfan]

So Ram, What # does Van Johnson wear? I can't find it.

 

[NJRamsFan]

Van Johnson made a nice block to free Copper Kupp on a screen play.They timing on plays makes a big difference.It goes to the coaching & attention to detail on a lot of the plays The Rams are running.

And sheer effort and willingness by the receivers. A lot of the dive WR's don't want to block just like a lot of the lockdown corners dont want to tackle (Luckily ours does)

 

[12intheBox]

A decade in decade out I still believe that in order to compete in the NFL you must prioritize your D & O lines.

My top priority position has always remained to keep your attention focus at all times on the OL, grooming, selection of the right players & keeping a large reserve unit throughout the season.

In this, the bottom line is that this team will be competitive in almost all games.

Prioritize can be a loaded word.

Does that mean that you spend a big % of your cap there? Day 1 and day 2 draft picks?

I think teams have shown that good offensive lineman are easier to be found later in the draft than some other positions. Maybe they are just tougher to evaluate - I don't know. I know there are examples of undrafted or late round gems at every position - but it seems like most of the really good offensive lines out there have a solid left tackle and bunch of dudes.

Defensive line is another story. Pass rush is not an easy trait to find very late or on the cheap. It happens - but these guys seem to pop out more in the draft process.

I mean - in the end - where don't you need to prioritize? You NEED a QB - its by far the most important need on a roster - not even close to the second biggest need.

From there, a case can be made for pass rush, for secondary, and for WR. Those are tough spots to fill with JAGs even with an elite QB on the team. O line is an important place to be competent - but I couldn't say that its more important than D line or secondary.

 

[Psycho_X]

Also helps the oline when you have a QB who can do things like this.


View: https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1443259388819644424?s=20


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View: https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1442908603950665732?s=20


View: https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1443290899476369411?s=20


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View: https://twitter.com/Highest_Tower/status/1442524105996046343?s=20

 

[den-the-coach]

I guess Carberry is going to be a head coach next year

Probably not yet, but I do like his family's chocolate

 

[So Ram]

And sheer effort and willingness by the receivers. A lot of the dive WR's don't want to block just like a lot of the lockdown corners dont want to tackle (Luckily ours does)

Mcvay(Snead)& the coaching staff have done an excellent job finding these type of players as well as being mentored.Kupp & Woods totally but into blocking & leading by example.
RAMsey has taken it to another level,but a guy that who is stepping up this season is David Long.He has shown to be a sure & willing tackler.

 

[BonifayRam]

Prioritize can be a loaded word.

Does that mean that you spend a big % of your cap there? Day 1 and day 2 draft picks?

I think teams have shown that good offensive lineman are easier to be found later in the draft than some other positions. Maybe they are just tougher to evaluate - I don't know. I know there are examples of undrafted or late round gems at every position - but it seems like most of the really good offensive lines out there have a solid left tackle and bunch of dudes.

Defensive line is another story. Pass rush is not an easy trait to find very late or on the cheap. It happens - but these guys seem to pop out more in the draft process.

I mean - in the end - where don't you need to prioritize? You NEED a QB - its by far the most important need on a roster - not even close to the second biggest need.

From there, a case can be made for pass rush, for secondary, and for WR. Those are tough spots to fill with JAGs even with an elite QB on the team. O line is an important place to be competent - but I couldn't say that its more important than D line or secondary.

When you invest all your future draft capital since 2016 & a serious sizeable amount of your annual cap funds in a QB you better have an OL to protect him! The rest falls down the list n prioritized.

 

[1maGoh]

I guess Carberry is going to be a head coach next year

I was going to say the same thing, but without the blue font. It's not inconceivable that if the line plays great all year that someone would offer him a HC or OC position during the playoffs. It would take us staying to run the ball and being dominant at it to get to that point, but it's not like we haven't seen similar moves before.

 

[Soul Surfer]

Well, for three weeks anyway.

The rebuild of the line started last year after the 2019 line fell apart during the season.
The second half of the '19 season was the audition for the rebuild they knew they would have to do in 2020.

Corbett and Edwards passed the audition by showing growth every week, getting the snap count down, learning how the offense works, executing well and not repeating mistakes.
We knew we had a keeper at left tackle and knew we had a high-end performer at right if you could regain his health, ( which of course they had the inside track on) and 2020 showed we had the two guards we needed.
Blythe actually filled in admirably for a guy who is limited physically. You can hate on him all you want if that is your thing but we could have done much worse and we did make the playoffs last year.

This year the only question was Center.
During training camp, they found out that the best offensive line included Allen at Center and keeping Corbett and Edwards at their premium spots.

I will say that the way this offensive line has come together, with its growth last year, has led to what will be considered a top two or three offensive line in this NFL 2021.

 

[Tano]

I was going to say the same thing, but without the blue font. It's not inconceivable that if the line plays great all year that someone would offer him a HC or OC position during the playoffs. It would take us staying to run the ball and being dominant at it to get to that point, but it's not like we haven't seen similar moves before.

If McVay wanted to, he could keep Carberry from interviewing for the OC position.

I doubt he would though

 

[Tano]

Probably not yet, but I do like his family's chocolate
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You need to learn how to spell.

Sorry I just could not help myself

 

[fearsomefour]

The rebuild of the line started last year after the 2019 line fell apart during the season.
The second half of the '19 season was the audition for the rebuild they knew they would have to do in 2020.

Corbett and Edwards passed the audition by showing growth every week, getting the snap count down, learning how the offense works, executing well and not repeating mistakes.
We knew we had a keeper at left tackle and knew we had a high-end performer at right if you could regain his health, ( which of course they had the inside track on) and 2020 showed we had the two guards we needed.
Blythe actually filled in admirably for a guy who is limited physically. You can hate on him all you want if that is your thing but we could have done much worse and we did make the playoffs last year.

This year the only question was Center.
During training camp, they found out that the best offensive line included Allen at Center and keeping Corbett and Edwards at their premium spots.

I will say that the way this offensive line has come together, with its growth last year, has led to what will be considered a top two or three offensive line in this NFL 2021.

Yep.

 

[WestCoastRam]

Have a hard time believing that Carberry will interview for OC position next year unless it's with us. Never called plays at any level as far as I know. Prob a year or two away (with a running game coordinator added to his title in between).

Now O'Connell... that's gonna be a tough one to keep after this year either as an OC with someone else or HC.